The Bible says Universe is billions of years old

The dilemma faced uniquely by evolutionary creationist when dealing with evolutionary theory, apart from any concern of the materialistic evolutionists, is the placing of the very credibility of Jesus Himself on the line. As the Bible emphatically states that by and through Jesus Christ all things were made (John 1:1-5), might it not be reasonable to assume He would have a firm apprehension of all of the details of creation; to include its time line? Jesus stated (Matthew 19:4-6) “…at the beginning…” man and woman were created and joined together as man and wife. The use here of the definite article “at”, as well as the Greek sentence structure of this passage leave absolutely NO room for a “Gap” and “Day/Age” justification for any evolutionary hybrid of creationism out of the Genesis account of creation. Jesus is either lying here or He is deluded; there are no other possible explanations for the specificity of this passage; the “beginning” in the Greek means just that, the beginning.

Furthermore, any time one extracts from any passage of scripture that which is not clearly a fuller explanation of its intent; through some contortion of the original languages into what appears to be a contradiction of a plain text reading of the passage under consideration, they’ve entered the realm of a cultist application of the Word of God. In effect they have made themselves editors of God’s Word, correcting what the Bible plainly says to tell you what God really meant. The scriptural warnings against such are numerous and severe.

If Jesus is not lying or deluded then, one need only take the genealogical information supplied in to Bible to find that the earth is approximately 6000 years old and that about 4400 years ago there was a flood. Observable unbiased scientific data would be reasonably expected to support these approximations; it does.

The law of physics called The Conservation of Angular Momentum basically states that any spinning object that breaks apart in a frictionless environment will continue spinning in the same direction. Why then are at least two planets in our solar system spinning backwards? Why are there at least 6 moons in our solar system spinning backwards, with some spinning backwards around their planets? This makes ANY model of the Big Bang Theory impossible under this law of physics. (The Big Bang Theory simply stated states that all the matter in the universe started as a swirling mass about the size of a period on this page; this mass then exploded to become the universe as we know it. Cosmologists have taken this a step further to hypothesize that all matter started as nothing, which then exploded to become the universe as we know it.)

Another violation of law of physics by this theory is called The Conservation of Angular Momentum; is the fact that our sun has less than 5% of the total mass of our solar system, yet it has 90% of the angular momentum! A physical impossibility to explain from the explosion of any size swirling mass.

The Big Bang Theory is a big dud.

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You can't possibly believe that the earth is 6000 years old?! Both childish and utter ignorant. You dissmiss all science and progress by saying such.

"In the beginning the majestic God created the great expance and matter, and the matter was lifeless and empty... Then said God: Become light! And there was a great light... And there were evenings and there were mornings a first age".

That would be a more or less direct translation with alternate choices of meaning for Hebrew words in the text, of parts of Genesis 1. As you can see God says more or less exactly the same as does modern astrophysics.

To fully understand the bible, especially the Torah, you have to go back to the source and study the meaning of the words used and understand the stories told as allegories. They have a factual side, but every move, name, place, war - you name it - is also a prophecy and witness of many things.

Think out of the box my friend. Is there anything against these planets actually started out spinning in various directions. Look at the moon, it doesn't spin at all! And what about the insane movements of Mercury, it baffles everyone, but I guess you have a liable eggsplanation for that...

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So you are using your complete lack of knowledge about the solar system to deem the big bang theory impossible? And you expect others to believe you?

If that's the level of your logical reasoning, no wonder you're delusional.

If you cannot assail the facts, attack he who dares mention the "emperor has no clothes"! Perhaps your obviously superior intellect would enlighten me as to why the law of physics called The Conservation of Angular Momentum does not apply ONLY when speaking about OUR solar system? I've listened to many lecturers attempt and fail to do so. But then they were obviously not as enlightened as you...

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Your intentions are good. Really. I'm not a Darwinist. But YEC was a mistake we need to admit that. Just like with Galileo and the sun revolving around the earth.

It wasn't written in English dude. I am a Southern Baptist and very conservative. I know Baptist seminary professors that have written books on Genesis. You are misunderstanding the text horribly and discrediting the name of Jesus. I wish you would stop.

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Please sir, give me examples without the crass generalizations. Koine Greek and the Bible are among my passions. If you accuse me of a disservice then establish it with two examples at least.