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Originally posted by Kruel
Originally posted by DYepes
Because breaking the law is breaking the law, whether your selling drugs, jumping a fence, or illegally modifying your vehicle that will be driven on public roads.
In Minnesota it's illegal to sleep naked.
In Indiana it's illegal to take baths between the months of October and March.
In Alabama it's illegal to wear a fake moustache that causes laughter in church.
Your point is?
1. Some laws are stupid/pointless/shouldn't exist.
2. These guys weren't even racing!
3. Cops should be catching the real criminals (you know, murderers, theives, rapists) but instead they pick off a few harmless people in a parking lot showing off their cars. Saying that their priorities are misplaced is a vast understatement.
But yeah! Save us from the evil car modifiers! They should all go to jail for what they *might* have done with those powerful engines.
Tell ya what though, I'd rather have them on the road than someone in their 80s.
Originally posted by InSanE1
The reasons why they say parts are illegal is because of noise, emissions and safety issues.
On the part of safety, I really want them to explain how a car that can handle better and stop better than it's factory design is a safety issue.
I completely agree with people getting charged for street racing. But not for the parts installed in their cars. Also prior to saying things like 'The parts are illegal so they're still breaking the law and should pay for it'. Think about what actually makes these parts illegal and you will understand that it does not make any sense for these types of modifications to be against the law.
I wish to also point out that it's these car enthusiasts that are generally the better drivers on the roads, and these are the people who's cars are always well maintained and pose less risk on the road than people who are clueless about their vehicles.
Originally posted by BluByWho
reply to post by The Nighthawk
My background is actually a picture from when I lived in Colorado (tints and exhaust are legal there), its some no name road in the Poudre Valley near Fort Collins off of Route 14.
Originally posted by matt the rat
reply to post by DimensionalDetective
I hear everyone screaming "freedom" and "bad cop" here so I'm assuming that the majority of posters on this topic are teen to twenty something young citizens. Great. However, has anyone here ever lost a friend or relative because they were killed by a couple of street racers who lost control?
Personally, I think that the cops should have roving tow trucks squads that find these idiots on the street and tow them to a scrap yard if they are set up for racing.
Sure, there are plenty of folks out there who restore and then do the cruise ins. That's fine. Generally they don't spend tens of thousands of dollars restoring classic cars to become a nuisance or lose it all in a reckless accident.
Then you see the "tuners". Seems like they are at every stop light, decibel testing their 5000 watt bass canons and revving up their bolt-on-accesorized motors...
Before I go too far by injecting my own personal analysis of juvenile behavior, my original point was to not be too hard on the cops. They have a job to do and there are a lot of issues to be dealt with out there.
I'm tired of everyone crying foul except when they have a "problem". Then they get mad and blame the cops, govt.' and everyone else for it.
If it's so bad here because the cops enforce laws then why do you stay?
How about trying another country? Let me know if you find one that caters you your every whim and excuses you from local laws, ordinances and anything else that creates the fabric of a SOCIETY.
Too many people, too many people..... thus we become in effect a 3rd world nation.
Originally posted by sputniksteve
My windows are tinted because I like the look and I like to blaze
[edit on 4/9/2008 by sputniksteve]
Originally posted by BluByWho
reply to post by matt the rat
My car is set up for racing, maybe they should tow it and scrap it? Then once they do that they can start making the car payments on it too, then once they own it and have the title than can return it to stock or as they see fit. Until then I own it and will modify it to my tastes.
I don't condone street racing, not in any way shape or form. Take it to the track and only the track. But because I choose to modify my car to race it at the track I am now a criminal? Because it has a modified exhaust, and a 5 million jigawatt system? I'm sorry I can only afford one car and have to drive my STREET car to work every day. When I want to reap the benefits of the vehicle and all its handling glory I TAKE IT TO THE TRACK.
A modified car does not = street racer
A gun owner does not = murderer
Street racing goes something like this. 2 cars start at point a and the first one to make it to point b wins. They race thru traffic and all the like. If your referencing people meeting up in desolate areas to drag race that is not street racing. Illegal,yes, but not true street racing. If a spectator gets killed at a drag race like I mentioned they put themselves is harms way so I have no sympathy for them, sorry. If its a person killed by a street racer who is innocent and has nothing to do with it, the driver deserves life behind bars. Period.
So now owning a modified car is a crime and should be treated as such?
I wouldnt call the police when I had a problem, unforunately insurance companies require police reports. If its a problem that I could handle on my own, I would gladly do it, but then I'd become the criminal.
Our justice system is too weak IMO, eye for an eye. You kill someone you get killed end of story. You injure someone and give them a disabaility, you get the disability too. Maybe then peole would be more careful, more respectful of their fellow citizens.
I wouldn't make generaliztions about old folks and their resto projects. I have seen just as many of them wreck their cars too. You think some kid whop pours his blood, sweat, tears, and hard earned money into his car wants to wreck it? Sounds to me like you approve of what your generation is doing with old cars, but what my generation is doing with new cars is unacceptable.
Times have changed buddy.... times have changed.