Life on mars this is it! no doubt!, page 2

I'm afraid that the "trees" on mars have in fact been debunked on many threads here on ats and elsewhere. With more high res images of the locations, they are clearly not trees.




edited to echo others who have stated that attacking the OP due to spelling and punctuation is childish and has no place in a serious discussion. Go back and look at your own posts and I bet you will find plenty of mistakes. Let's stick to the topic :-)

[edit on 8-4-2008 by sensfan]

reply to post by sensfan

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In fact, I neglected an f in your name when I last spelled it. My apologies

I had not seen the higher resolution images of the area, nor had I seen the other threads here at ATS about that image. Thank you for providing me with that pic.

I'm not sure why you don't think it looks like trees, it still does in the high res shot to me. It looks an awful lot like a fractal growth pattern. But since there is another thread about that image, I will try to find it and discuss the image there.

One of the points I was attempting to illustrate earlier is that water has been detected on and within the surface of Mars. This to me suggests a support structure for plantlife, and that's one of the reasons I'm inclined to believe that some of what we're seeing on Mars is plantlife. Add to this the fact that Mars once held oceans.

I'll be the first to admit that this is a circumstantial case at best.

I am very open to learning, and would very much like to see the explanation for the apparent 'shadows' that correspond to the sun angle in these particular images.

Thanks for showing respect from your side of the aisle
You'll always receive it from me as well.

-WFA

Originally posted by WitnessFromAfar

If you actually want to examine the evidence, what I see in this image is a 3-dimensional object casting a shadow.

But the "shadow" should be going towards the right as the light is coming in from the left of frame.

reply to post by IAttackPeople

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My apologies IAttackPeople, I should have been more clear, the part I'm refering to as appearing to be 'shadow' is on the right of the image, I can't seem to upload the marked image I just made to illustrate. I'm on a wierd computer at work and it isn't letting me upload to Imageshack.

I'll try to describe what I'm seeing in words instead.
The part that extends to the Up direction (assuming up is North?)
looks like the trunk and branches of a tree. Specifically a tropical tree like a palm.

The small dark blotch (completely black) to the right and bottom of the object is what I was refering to as shadow. Sorry for the confusion. I wish I could just post my marked image

I also see this pattern repeat in other 'trees' or whatever they are. On the zoomed out version, you can even see several longer shadows (as some objects appear to be situated on dunes in such a manner to cause a longer shadow. These shadows all line up with the shadows of the dunes themselves.

If I can't get my image to upload at work today, I'll do it tonight.
Perhaps I'm seeing something that isn't really there, but it does look to me like a 3-D object casting a shadow, consistent with the sun.

-WFA

reply to post by WitnessFromAfar

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Well those very well could be shadows, and that would be consistent with the scientific explanantion that theorizes that these are carbon dioxide/water ice "geysers"...

...just as "sensfan" said in his earlier post here:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

So this theory that these are "geysers" seems plausible, albeit not yet proven. However, I need to disagree with the OP when he stated "Live [sic] on Mars...No doubt!" I actually have quite a bit of doubt, since the photos look more like a geyser than vegetation.


[edit on 4/8/2008 by Soylent Green Is People]

Mars and all its wonders! Keep looking out there! Sooner or later something will be found that will be solid enough to hold some water with everyone, and make it comman knowledge!
If you need a hand with some research I would suggest looking into Mikes threads! This guy has done alot of work!
And I dont mean to put down the couple pics you put up, as its great!
But if you want to really drive this fact home to the debunkers, and other people who will deny. Your going to need much more than these dunes pics!
Take a look threw this Folder thread, and you will find plenty of information to back up your claims.
However just posting some shadowy pics, will only get so far.
Dont get me wrong, its a good step in the right direction, but we need more than baby steps to capture the minds of ATS debunkers. They can be a very critical crowd here. But thats a healthy thing.. They keep us in check, when things start getting a little fishy!
I respect all debunkers, and belivers alike, we are all after the same thing, but we just have our own way of dealing with this process.

reply to post by IAttackPeople

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You are correct. The only way it can be a shadow is if there was another source of light nearby from another direction( e.g car headlights ). Which would be very unlikely lol.

[edit on 8-4-2008 by _Phoenix_]

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