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Topic started on 8-4-2008 @ 09:08 AM by johndoeknows
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Don't need much words look for your self.
This is the proof there is live on mars!
closer
top one
bottom one
in color
Original was little bright and blue so I used auto color with IASViewer-3.1.2.
This looks like tree's of some sort to me.
There are much more tree's on the picture but don't got al day.
Excuse me for my English not a native language of mine, some people (rocksarerocks) have trouble with it to them I say.
Why don't you try to write in Dutch, Spanish, and German I can read, write and speak them! so please keep it to the thread.
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reply posted on 8-4-2008 @ 09:27 AM by Demonis
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Again with the dunes? I see a rock that has been swallowed by the moving deserts.
Someone please plant these into a terragen program.
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reply posted on 8-4-2008 @ 09:29 AM by skept!cal
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sorry my friend, but i wouldnt post this as absolute fact...have you actually been to the surface to climb this martian tree?...I hate to sound
condeceding, but until we set foot on the surface its all speculation, its good to research these kind of things just dont count it as fact until well
its actually facts...Deny Ignorance...Think you might be matrixing a lil bit
Good Day
Skept!cal
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reply posted on 8-4-2008 @ 09:59 AM by Beamish
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What wonderfully evocative images. Nicely done, johndoeknows.
Whilst these have been presented before on ATS, and mainly lifted from this site:
www.marsanomalyresearch.com...
I've never seen them in such detail before. They're almost too good to be true...
Whilst they do suggest either living, or long deceased (fossilised?) arboreal specimins, I agree with skept!cal's statement, in that we
absolutely cannot decide upon what these images depict until NASA astronauts, or independant explorers, make it to Mars.
And therein is the problem. We're in for a long wait, and even when Man finally sets foot up there, there is no guarantee that any or all findings
will be released. If these are "trees" that are still growing, then NASA has an awful lot of back-pedalling and explaining to do.
It's just a matter as to whether they're willing to bite the bullet and admit to making mistakes, or there truly is something to the theory of
suppresion of Martian ecology and history.
Of course, all we could be looking at are truly "alien" rockforms. Even if that is the case, then they are of immense interest, and no less thought
provoking.
And at the end of the day, where better to find them?
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reply posted on 8-4-2008 @ 10:06 AM by johndoeknows
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Yes I agree but until then we have to do it with what we got.
And to be honest they use sonar of poorer quality to find ships on the bottom of the oceans. this is something that cant be a rock or dust devil.
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reply posted on 8-4-2008 @ 10:10 AM by MrPenny
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So, why don't they show up at the lowest part of the dunes? I'm not seeing trees or any other object higher than the dune. What I see is some type
of darker material sliding down from the high point of a dune and staining the lighter material.
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reply posted on 8-4-2008 @ 10:14 AM by beastamerica
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didn't we land a rover (viking?) in mars before? sorry to early for me to google this but i'm pretty sure 'bout that. is the rover still there?
can we launch another one to check mars? seems like there's a lot of mars weirdness nowadays.
must be inspired by the gary sinize "back to mars (?)" rerun movie the other day
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reply posted on 8-4-2008 @ 10:19 AM by tylerc25211
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Does anyone know what NASA is calling these things? They definetly look like some kind of plant... Please U2U me if anyone has any additional info as
to what NASA says they are. Thanks.
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reply posted on 8-4-2008 @ 10:23 AM by sensfan
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As stated, this has been discussed before, and there is an explanation, and no, they are not trees or any other sort of plant life...
What causes the black dots on dunes on Mars? As spring dawned on the Northern Hemisphere of Mars in 2004, dunes of sand near the poles begin to
defrost. Thinner regions of ice typically thaw first revealing sand whose darkness soaks in sunlight and accelerates the thaw. The process might
involve sandy jets exploding through the thinning ice. By summer, the spots expanded to encompass the entire dunes that were then completely thawed
and dark. The carbon dioxide and water ice actually sublime in the thin atmosphere directly to gas. Taken in mid-July, the above image shows a field
of spotted polar dunes spanning about 3 kilometers near the Martian North Pole. Today, the future of Mars rovers Spirit and Opportunity remains
unknown windy dust storms continue to starve them of needed sunlight.
from APOD
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reply posted on 8-4-2008 @ 10:23 AM by skept!cal
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Spirt and Opportunity were launched...have been doing research on the red planet for some years now even when the rovers were expected i think to roam
the red planet for bout 6 months..so yeah we have landed rovers there..
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reply posted on 8-4-2008 @ 10:31 AM by QBSneak000
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Looking at the pictures, it kind of looks as if they were thrust out of the dune judging by the ejecta looking spray at the base of each....kind of
like when a depth charge goes off. Especially the 2nd/middle photo.
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reply posted on 8-4-2008 @ 10:34 AM by dave420
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No. Without wishing to sound rude, that is not proof of anything, other than your willingness to see what you want to see, and ignore all other
evidence that demonstrates your assertions are nothing more than wishful thinking.
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reply posted on 8-4-2008 @ 10:48 AM by hsur2112
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The pictures are stunning johndoeknows and good find, sensfan. That was exactly my first impression when I saw these photos, some sort of sand jet or
spray (for lack of better words).
And yes, the rovers are still plucking away. There is some talk that nasa may have to temporarily shut one down because of budget cuts, but last word
was that they may not have to do that...
Budget Cuts Could Shut Down Mars Rover
and an update...
Mixed signals from NASA about fate of Mars rover
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reply posted on 8-4-2008 @ 10:57 AM by WitnessFromAfar
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I think that's taking it a bit too far Dave.
If you actually want to examine the evidence, what I see in this image is a 3-dimensional object casting a shadow.
Now, granted, we can't state with certainty it's a tree. But I personally think that NASA's 'stained sand' hypothesis fits the observed evidence
much less than 'tree' at this point. Wet sand doesn't cast a shadow. It certainly doesn't cast shadows on many dunes at once, that are laid out
in accordance with the angle of the sun in the picture.
I think it's important for us ALL to keep from proclaiming 'what we're seeing is (Fill in the blank)'. Even the skeptics, even NASA.
Especially Dave, in absence of a better theory, which I've not seen you provide. I'm not just talking in this thread either. You have a tendency
to call something 'bunk' without offering an alternative explanation, and you add to these posts (regularly) an insult to the poster you're
speaking to.
If you've got something to say, an analysis of the evidence that shows some sort of results maybe? I'm all ears. Otherwise, we should all keep in
mind that it has yet to be determined what these pictures are actually showing. And the Original Poster's guess is at this point not refuted by the
evidence, especially when combined with evidence of ample surface water in both liquid and solid forms on Mars (that's NASA data).
-WFA
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reply posted on 8-4-2008 @ 11:10 AM by qrios
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Debunkers....
Although we do not have proof that they are trees, surely they are NOT nothing.
Rather than debunking other opinions, shouldn't we rather try and have positive posts or speculations as to what they might be?
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reply posted on 8-4-2008 @ 11:15 AM by sensfan
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Originally posted by qrios
Debunkers....
Although we do not have proof that they are trees, surely they are NOT nothing.
Rather than debunking other opinions, shouldn't we rather try and have positive posts or speculations as to what they might be?
I think if you read my post above you will see that it has been discovered what they are. Case closed as far as I'm concerned.
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reply posted on 8-4-2008 @ 11:37 AM by WitnessFromAfar
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While I greatly respect both your viewpoint and your willingness to cite sources, I respectfully disagree that this and other tree-like features are
'case-closed' stains on the sand.
The shadows cast are but one reason.
For NASA to argue against the possibility of life in one breath, while proudly proclaiming the discovery of all of the necessary requirements for life
in the same breath, also makes me highly suspicious.
Arthur C. Clarke's 'trees' have not been explained properly either.
I'm sorry, I really don't mean to be rude. I just don't believe NASA when their explanations don't make any sense. I'll wait until someone can
show me a 'from the ground' image of the same location before I'm calling this one 'case closed' one way or the other.
-WFA
Much love by the way, I always enjoy reading your posts.
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reply posted on 8-4-2008 @ 11:38 AM by rocksarerocks
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This is LIVE on mars?
These are live pictures from Mars?
Are you trying to tell me to go live on mars?
I don't understand how anyone can post such a blantant lie and not even get the spelling correct. When you have absolute proof of something, use your
spell checker, then post it.
Welcome to the daily "there is life on mars with no proof" thread. Gold star for you.
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reply posted on 8-4-2008 @ 11:42 AM by WitnessFromAfar
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Resorted to attacking spelling have we?
No facts or evidence to use in this case Rocksarerocks?
Sensan had a point, with a reason. So does the original poster.
In fact, so do I.
Where is yours? All I read on this end are insults...
Is there a Mod monitoring this thread?
Could we request one respectfully?
Let's stay on topic, and discuss the issue. Not the OPs spelling.
-WFA
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reply posted on 8-4-2008 @ 11:49 AM by NetStorm
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Originally posted by rocksarerocks
This is LIVE on mars?
These are live pictures from Mars?
Are you trying to tell me to go live on mars?
I don't understand how anyone can post such a blantant lie and not even get the spelling correct. When you have absolute proof of something, use your
spell checker, then post it.
Welcome to the daily "there is life on mars with no proof" thread. Gold star for you.
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Whoa...the OP was in a hurry, look at your keyboard, the "f" is above the "v".....so the OP made a mistake...and????
It´s pretty sad when you have to find something, ANYTHING to criticize, just so you can knock someone, because you disagree with their post, or
reasoning... Do you have proff there is NOT life on Mars? The OP may not have proff there is but the post is still a good one IMO.
Edit for spelling :-)
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