Israel threatens Iran with destruction

Iran and Israel are not related. Where did this theory come from? They are miles apart in every way, hence the stand off. Iran surrounds Israel with its foreign legions Hamas and Hesbollah. Crazy or what? Iran just wants to be the new kid on the block, the regional superpower which it could have been if it hadn't got on the wrong side of the powers that be. You just don't get on the wrong side of Israel and the USA and get away with it.

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do your self a faver and do some research on Jews in Israel and where some have come from and you will see what they have in common with Iran and their neigbours and re-read my reply.

reply to post by DJMessiah

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Well i will be glad to hear about those banks. I always thought that major European banks were owned by people of different religion, but once again,i probably pay too much attention to facts and let them interfere with beautiful theories. Templars and Papal banks were owned by Jews? Medici family was Jewish?
As for amount of Jewish interest lenders, i think that it has much more to do to prohibition to have a whole bunch of professions and own land. You have got to provide for your family ,after all.
I actually do not see how you miss a religion as the reason for those persecutions and go straight for the pocket. Do you think Europeans cared more for they money then for what their religious leaders told them?

reply to post by dave420

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This is from your link. Now imagine in the cold war Soviet leader saying : Capitalists are holding our brothers in slavery. As our dear Lenin said their regime must be wiped off the map.
Not a threat to attack US? And what if they said it while working on H-bomb?

Last i looked i don't think the arabs want Iran to have the bomb ethier seems like there with Israel on this one.

More and more i get the impression that this thread has ceased to be a discussion. Lacking any meaningful exposition I'm not certain what anyone expects to teach or learn.

reply to post by ZeroKnowledge

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Actually it's not a threat to the US in any way shape or form. A political ideology can be removed without violence. :-)

reply to post by ergoli

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I don't really think that it is a threat for a state (or person) to say if you attack me that we'll/I'll kill you. Seriously, how is that a threat? You could call it a warning, sure; but a threat is like "hey Iran I'm gonna bomb your cities and kill your babies!" He said no such thing. He basically reiterated a policy called MAD that, may or may not have, saved the WORLD from destruction during the Cold War.

I am not Jewish or a supporter of Israeli but I would have to say that fool you once shame on me, fool you twice shame on you! The Jewish Nation has been fooled one to many times in my opinion, I would say that they have been more than tolerable with the country and leaders of Iran. Just think we were hit on 9/11 once and we toppled two nations over that. I can honestly say that on that September day I was hoping that a whole lot of ass kicking was about to go down screw the innocent let Ali sort them out. Could you imagine being a Jew and time after time being under attacked. Israeli needs to show once and for all that saying that another holocaust is going to happen (which Iran's leader said) will get your ass kicked.

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What the heck? Since when has lil Israel ever spouted off about annihilation of any of their murderous neighbors? And if you want mutual dissarmament, what about Russia? And what about China? China is telling their people that they WILL nuke you and I. And Bent Billy SOLD them the missile guidance tech to do it. He got caught, gave the money back, and pretended that he just 'gave' them the tech. Quid pro quo.

I just heard on the radio, that somethings going to happen soon!! It was on the Mike Savage show and lieberman called in and said Isreal is on a 15 second alert statis..

I myself think its gonna give sooner or later..a winner and a looser.



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If i was the Palestinians i don't think i would want Iran nuking Israel there gonners too.Iran does'nt care they probley think hey we can take out two for one jews and sunnis.

There's over 1 billion Muslims in the Middle East that can live together in harmony(Iraq being an exception). Throw in 7 million Jews into the mix and the Muslims are screaming "Jihad!"...

i coudn't care who's right or wrong. It really doesn't matter. What does matter is the situation RIGHT NOW:

1- Nasrallah calling for all-out war against Israel
2- Syria sending armored divisions to the border
3- Hamas' non-stop bombardment of Sderot
4- Israels' raids into Gaza
5- Israeli War Games
6- Iranian Pres. calling for the destruction of Israel
7- Israel threatening to respond to any Iranian attack
8- Israel holding Syria accountable for Hezbollah attacks

This list is not in chronological order and I'm sure the list can go on and on...

It seems that many people here would just LOVE to see Israel disappear. I can understand their passionate hatred as it has existed for... ever really.
There are many bad things that people say about Israel. Some of them are true but most of the accusations should be directed towards the religious Jews, which actually represents a small percentage of the Jewish population. They, unfortunately, are the stereotypes that people go by. The same can be said about Islam, where the more religious people are usually the more extreme people.

For Europeans that hate the State of Israel, they really should be grateful that they are there. Most people don't realize that Israel IS the Tip of the Sword of the Western World. If Israel falls into Muslim hands, then it's only a matter of time before they start targeting Europe on a daily basis.

As for Nuclear Weapons, most people keep whining about "why Israel can have the bomb and Iran can't?" and why the UN is not doing anything about it?" The answer is pretty simple. It's the same reason why the UN doesn't question the US, UK, Russia, or China's programs. It's because THEY ALREADY HAVE IT!!! The UN won't question the US program, because they know they will get a nuke shoved up their a$$. And the same goes for any other nuclear-powered nation. The goal these days is to prevent another country from having the bomb.

And besides, the world knows that Iran are trying to build the bomb and therefore, they can stop(or try at least) Iran from developing these weapons. Mordechai Vanunu was about 30 years late to show the world that Israel had it. At this point, there's not much the world can do. Either way, when you look at Israels' record of handling their nukes, you can see they are extremely responsible about it. People don't realize how close they came to using them in '73. When you think about it, If Israel are so hellbent in killing Arabs as most people claim, then they would've done it a LONG TIME AGO!

I'm not using this as an excuse that Israel SHOULD HAVE it. I don't believe any country should have it. All I'm saying is I'd rather have Israel possessing them than Iran, because of Ahmadinejad's remarks and stance towards Israel.

As for today's situation, I hope it calms down. All hell will break loose if it doesn't. Israel will probably play with the Hezbollah again like in '06(Israels' tactics drove me nuts!!!) and will take on Syria in a more serious manner. I just hope this doesn't play out, because if one rocket lands in Tel-Aviv, Damascus might not exist. I don't think anybody wants that.
As for Gaza, I would expect a full-scale invasion with complete disregard for UN/world opinion. They're probably going to take out all their frustration on them and that will be extremely dangerous. Hopefully, this does not happen.


This region is on the brink of massive destruction. I just hope they can resolve this conflict quickly before it gets out of hand. Maybe someday, hopefully, there will be peace over there...

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Just to point out one thing- the Muslims don't even live harmoniously amongst themselves, and when you add Jews and other "infidels" to the mix, it gets even uglier.

reply to post by Odium

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I did not bring Soviet Union by chance. The way they removed regimes is known to all - Czech Republic, Hungary, Afghanistan, Finland (luckily a failure) , Latvia ,Estonia, Lithuania ..... All of them were "regimes wiped out" by force. And citizens that presented a threat were killed or sent to concentration camps. Since it was a social conflict the enemies were social. Now it is a religious/ethnic conflict and the victims will be according to those categories.
As for the fact that nukes were never used by USSR, it is true however Cuban crisis could have ended differently if at least one side had a more fundamental leadership. Mao, a fundamental communist , tried to make USSR use the nukes and start a war by claiming that there are more communists and more will survive then capitalists. USSR leaders had less revolutionary spirit (cooled down with generations) so they did not agree. Now the same suggestion was brought up by religious leader of Iran, and i am not that sure that current political leader is not trying to make this a real thing.

1 billion Muslims in the Middle East are living in harmony?

Dude, what planet are you living on and what's the definition of harmony there?

LOL ok so maybe harmony is too nice of a word. I didn't mean that they're all angels toward each other, but they're able to co-exist. That's what I was trying to point out. I guess I have to work on my vocabulary...

Do you see Arab countries threatening each other on a daily basis? No. But when it comes to Israel, the threats go back and forth constantly.
This situation is getting more dangerous every day and I just hope it can be prevented or solved...

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It is historical fact that Israel has started the current escalation of military unrest in the region. From the time of its inception as a state Israel has declared expansion and has started nearly every war since with its neighbors. Frankly Israel needs to be where it is, it’s a buffer zone for Europe from Muslim invasion. The Irony is the EU/UN/European nations have found it necessary to overpopulate their countries with ignorant and violent muslims; the kind that don't believe in democracy and want their own theocratic government within their host nations.

What is appalling is that the human slave trade into and out of Europe is heavily influenced by these same groups, as well as the heroin coming in. Israel has been making threats to Iran since they've been a viable power, I for one don't care, so long as they don't start dropping nukes. I don't like arabs/persians or jews, they are all supremacists who wish to conquer other nations for egotistical or religious gains.

America for one stays engaged in military conflicts to keep our military strong which helps to keep a higher standard of living in such a large country. We are an Indirect Imperialist nation and I for one support it, I may not like all of the actions or the side we're on, but I am American. This being the case my only concern is how will a showdown between Israel/Iran or Israel/neighbors affect Americans now and in the future. Israel is an antagonist nation and will bring about its own demise; Iran is a suppressed nation and will destroy itself from within.

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I agree that the fact that Israel exists did not contribute to peace in the region. However i can not think of anything that can solve it except maybe time.
As for Israel starting "nearly every war " - there were 1948, 1956?,1967,1973,1982,2006 wars. 6 So far and i hope that this is it.
2 of them were not started by Israel (1948 - war was declared on Israel, by surrounding Arab countries, 1973 -also war was declared on Israel) . 66% is not "nearly every" , not to mention that 1956 is not considered a war.
I also hope that current Israel - Iran -Surya tensions will not develop into another war, since small chance of non-conventional warfare exists.

Regardless of what triggers the war. It will happen and we can
easily imagine the aftermath of it.
The world will be in shock over the first nuclear attack on Japan 1945.
It would be very harmful to the economy world wide, just as there was a recession after 9/11.

Israel nuking several Middle Eastern cities would produce fallout in the oil producing region and disrupt oil production.
Even if that was completely avoided, Iran has threatened to disrupt oil flow if attacked.
She plans to torpedo oil tankers going through the straight of Hormuz where one quarter of the worlds oil supply passes.
The result either way would be a major energy crunch worldwide.
The global economy will be hurt with temporarily higher energy prices.

Jerome Corsi claims that sleeper cell Hezbollah agents exist in America ready to strike targets on American soil,
perhaps with low yield nuclear weapons, in defense of Iran. This could seriously constrict the US and the world economy even worse than 9/11 did.
A similar 'emaciation' of Americas economic health,or recession,happened from the 1973 oil embargo in retaliation for America helping Israel in the Yom Kippur war.