I haven't read the whole thread, but enough to make my mind go into overdrive. Agent47 invited me to take a look and see what I thought. He doesn't
know what he, I'm assuming he from the little in the profile I could gather, is asking
First of all I think our main problem is with systems and human nature. There was a comment on the the corporations and what to do. This person said
the were conservative, because they were sounding like a socialist. I agree. I am conservative, but can sound like a socialst sometimes too. Some
things can be changed, like how corporations operate. But how to do this? Some can't, human nature is one. As I said IMO that it boils down to
systems and human nature.
Systems are how we do things either individually or collectivly. Several comments were made to the effect of some people believe that getting good
grades and all that junk, moving on to college gets you a good, secure job. BS. Security is an illusion. I work for a big corp. They are competiters
of Wal-Mart and the just emerged from Chapter 11. Guess Who? I have survived 2 large layoffs and since I am an IT type, look on the job market
lanscape and see the surface of the moon.
There was a time that I could just about name my salary and BTW I DON'T have a college degree. I make
about 70K plus bennies. This is the last corporation I will probably work for. Why? No degree and the pay has gone down, way down. I'm not slamming
college, my daughter is in and my son will be going soon, but what makes companies think I can't do as good a job or better than someone who is just
entering the field? Don't know. I have fought this thinking since I entered the IT field in 1996.
Another goofy a$$ system that is working against me is the school education system. My son who is 16 is brilliant. School is boring and a 4.0 is easy.
He is in AP classes and takes 12th grade math and science classes. Well we want to send him to college next year. Skip 11th and 12th grade. He can do
it no problem and I know several kids who have done that. Well Many colleges won't except a kid without a HS diploma or GED. OK so we will get his
GED and send him. Can't take the GED until he's 18. Well his parents will find a hole in the system and get him in. I know of a few already and am
looking into them. BTW he has gone to Public, Private, Home and Charter schools. Yes we home schooled, and it was fun. He wanted more hands on labs
and things in High School so he is at a Charter now, but it still isn't a challenge.
Some of these things are set up for a reason, but there are always exceptions to the rules. These systems don't accomadate the exceptions. They
wan't uniformity and not some independent thinkers. Sure they try to get us to think out of the box at work, but who really does? Those who do this
typically are labeled as excentric or weird. This brings me to human nature.
What is it about us humans that we want it easy. The path of least resistance. How We all want our "Bread and Circus's" or something for nothing
and our entertainment. How easy would it of been for me to put my kids into Public School and coasted. Easy. But there are other issues that I won't
go into here that made us(wife and I) choose a different path. Heck of alot more work. Why didn't I go to college? I did, but traditional learning
isn't for me and I dropped out. I have an MCSE, but didn't take a single class. Self study and OJT got me through the tests. I also went into the
As for "Bread and Circus's" I too love my entertainment and am not criticizing. Who are the folks who make lots of money? Professional Atheletes,
TV/Movie stars, best selling authors, Musiacians. The list can go on. Game writers are a different class, but many of them make a boat loads of money
too. Where does the most reward come from? Something given you or something you have worked for or even suffered for? I mentioned the Army. The pay
was horrible, but that had to be one of my most satisfying acheivments. I went through basic in the mid 80's and it wasn't as easy as it is today,
but easier than what Viet Nam era went through. It seems that in order to attract the talent they have to soften up the training. I think that it may
get people killed, but who am I? The things in my life I value have been things that really challenged me, and I hated some of it when I was doing it.
I asked myself everyday, "Why did I join the Army" but kept at it. Most folks won't do this stuff though. They want it all NOW! The government
needs to fix this and that or provide for this. When you (generalization here) want this then you give up a little piece of your true freedom for
this. With freedom comes great responsibility. I forget who said that, but we don't want responsabilty anymore, so our freedoms are eroding. Oh we
think we do, but not really, because it takes effort. Who cares about what they vote on in Congress, as long as I don't miss "Friends" or in my
case "Survivor" Like I said I am somewhat in the same boat, but I guess my difference is that I realise the problem, many or most don't. We are
like a bunch of sheep. People + Sheep = Sheople/Sheeple Bahhhh bahhhhh bahhhh. Feed us and keep us safe, but how dare you try to keep us from
Someone also mention Private Security. Ironic that here too I have some experince. Used to be the top three security companies in the country where
Pinkerton, Burns and Wackenhut. Well Pinkerton bought Burns and a european company bought Pinkerton. It's now called Securitas. So Securitas is #1
huge and a distant second is Wackenhut. Wackenhut has it's fingers ina whole bunch of pies. www.wsihq.com...
Check out the picture
with the helicopter. That isn't me, but it could of been. That is a Special Response Team (SRT) member exiting a Messerschmitt BK-117 in front of a
Nuclear Weapons Material Reactor. (decommisioned) I did this kind of thing from 1989 to 1995 at the very place this picture was taken. The Gov't
contracts with them to provide security for many places. They have Top Secret clearances and are VERY WELL trained and armed. Usama won't get into
that place and back out without having a Battalion sized element and even then he may not
When people are worried about reactors they are talking
commercial power reactors, not these things. Anyway, private security can and is a quazi arm of the gov't. My cousin is working for a "security"
company and is over seas now somewhere doing "his thing" (I hope he wasn't in that plane in Zimbabwe) If things go sour, well the company goes
bankrupt and reform under a different name.
Sorry about the jump in subjects. I wanted to cover seveal things and maybe should of put it in differnt posts, but hanks for reading this
[Edited on 9-3-2004 by Publius]