Obama - ACCENT change we can believe in, page 1
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Topic started on 7-4-2008 @ 05:29 AM by FlyersFan
Before anyone screams that it’s racist to say someone has a ‘black accent’ (or any ethnic accent)… you best check with the FBI and law enforcement. It was brought out during the OJ Simpson trial that YES, the FBI and law enforcement do acknowledge that there is a ‘black accent’ and that it can be used for identification purposes. This was also discussed on YAHOO questions . I couldn’t find a link directly to the FBI or CIA on this … but law enforcement did say on national TV during the OJ trial that the FEDS consider ‘a black accent’ to be a real thing.

That being said -

HERE is the infamous Obama –Selma speech that he gave. You know … the one where his accent changed from a ‘brought-up-Hawaiian’ to a ‘southern black’ accent.

Take a look at Obama’s speech for the MLK memorial on April 4, 2008. This speech had to be practiced in the mirror for hours. He turns on the black accent … and mimics Dr. King. TV Pundits were falling all over themselves after this saying ‘oh, he sounded just like MLK’. Well .. duh! I’m sure that was the plan.

But then hours later in North Dakota he stops channeling MLK.

I’m sure some folks will say that they don’t see the pandering accent changing. But sure I do. So do a lot of other people.

Shelby Steele for example. His whole interview is interesting. But this is a quick quote to the part about Obama’s ever changing accent. Sister Toldjah discusses the pandering accent changes as well. TIME calls his accent ‘fluid’. It changes from black to white to whatever … depending on the audience. The Wonkette , a blog from DC, calls him the man of 1,000 voices. From the responses, it seems that a lot of people noticed that he tries to mimic MLK one day, then mimic mid-west whites the next. USA Today briefly acknowledges the change of accent for both Hillary and Obama. The paper lumps them in with all the faux-accented celebs running around the world (like Madonna and her fake British accent) Writers to The New York Observer discuss the ever changing Obama accent as well. The Washington Post has some writing in and asking if Obama will change his accent from black to Latino when he starts campaigning in California … since he goes from white accent to black accent all over the country.

Hillary did the same darn thing. (I won't focus on her though. Her run for POTUS is just about done. Unless The Bible Code is true)

Both Hillary and Obama turned on the southern accent in Selma Oh .. and at this site you can see the famous lie Obama told about the Kennedy’s bringing his father over from Africa. Obama says if it weren’t for the Kennedys he would never have been born! HA! The airlift and marches happened AFTER he was born … oooooops, Obama lied (again)

Anyways … Hillary did it once or twice. She was outted in the blogs for doing it. They called it what it was – pathetic. Bush 43 has turned on a deep Texas accent every so often. Either that or he really has a deep Texas accent and he just turns it off most of the time.

McCain? I haven’t found anything on him changing his accent in order to pander to certain crowds. If you guys (or ya’ll ) find anything on him pandering his accent – please feel free to post it. I’d like to see it.

SHAMELESS PLUG – Obama’s Friends – off topic plug to an thread with important information that everyone should read.



[edit on 4/7/2008 by FlyersFan]


reply posted on 7-4-2008 @ 04:18 PM by Sublime620
reply to post by FlyersFan



You are absolutely full of it if you think diction doesn't change by situation and over time.

Perhaps he has a little of both and switches back and forth depending on where he is?

I have a mixture of southern draw and northern yank. I promise if talking to a southerner the southern draw would come out more, or if I was talking to my buddies up north, I'd be talking like the god father.

TT. Quit bein' so judgmental.


reply posted on 7-4-2008 @ 06:15 PM by Sublime620
reply to post by FlyersFan



Over accent changed pandered towards the crowd? Even if it's completely intentional, it's still smart.

Do you suppose blacks want to hear a black guy talking like every other white candidate they've voted for? And do you think those uptight rich white folk would even consider voting for someone who talks ethnic at all?

An important thing taught in business school today is that one must adapt to the environment they are in. That means women may have to act subservient in countries where that is the norm, or business may have to be put off for a few hours just to talk to and to get to know each other in South American countries.

This is the way it is. Any smart business man, or politician, will pander himself to the crowd he is speaking.

Now that this has been brought to my attention, it makes me think he'll be even better with foreign relations. If he wins the election, I'll be looking forward to see him touring the world and renewing the world's faith in America.

Should be interesting.



reply posted on 8-4-2008 @ 01:50 PM by Sublime620
reply to post by budski



I gotta be honest, I just now got around to listening to how "different" he sounded, and I didn't really notice any change.

He sounded, in all of the 3 videos I watched, exactly the same. One was supposed to be "southern black", one "MLK", and one just normal. I didn't hear any big difference in any of them.



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reply posted on 8-4-2008 @ 02:50 PM by budski
reply to post by 44soulslayer



To me it seems false and fake - it's like trying to be popular under false pretenses, by trying to be something you're not (generic you)

It also seems a bit of a desperate attempt at validation.

I also think it's a little patronising, and insulting to the heritage and tradition of a particular area.

I've come across this a lot, and the people doing it have always been (to me) shallow and pretensious.

But the context in which I mey these people also has to be considered - i.e. a social/pub situation

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