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Originally posted by coconut
It seemed to decimate Iraq and Afghanistan just fine...however as both of those conflicts demonstrate, some wars just can't be won from the sky, although we did just that in Kosovo back in '99.
China's integrated air defenses—based on cheap, sometimes stolen digital technology—are now considered potentially more threatening to the U.S. than Russia's. The wholesale use of commercial products has made Chinese networks flexible, easy to upgrade and tough to exploit.
That opinion, rapidly taking hold in the U.S. electronic warfare community, is part of the tsunami of air defense ana¬lysis following Israel's demonstration of its ability to shut down Syria's Russian-built air defenses long enough to conduct a bombing raid—and then allowed the radars to come back on in time to see the Israeli aircraft disappearing over the border (AW&ST Nov. 26, 2007, p. 28).
China's air defense expenditures are calculated by aerospace officials as only one-tenth of what's invested by the U.S. The Chinese systems are affordable, in part, because of the regular use of stolen U.S. technology—described as "Cisco in Chinese," by one specialist. The telecom companies that conduct and exploit the thefts are run by former People’s Liberation Army generals. The low cost allows rapid updating and proliferation of these defenses, which is one of the best ways to confound attack planners.
The Syrian raid—which involved air-to-ground and network-to-network electronic invasion of a Russian-built IADS—is convincing some that custom-built, highly specialized and expensive air defenses with long development times are decreasing in deterrent value. In fact, they have become victims of their own uniqueness. Because they were hard to develop and field, they aren't often modified. That gives electronic warriors the time to conduct analysis and build countermeasures.
"Network warfare has been done for some time," says the intelligence official. "The difference now is that it's being integrated as part of an overall combined operation. The Israelis' raid on Syria wasn't just about shutting down the radars and blowing up the building. There were a lot of integrated operations that had to happen to make the raid successful. Cyberwarfare information operations was one component of what went on there."
China's integrated air defenses—based on cheap, sometimes stolen digital technology—are now considered potentially more threatening to the U.S. than Russia's.
Originally posted by Harlequin
Again a point we disagree on as i have sources which give the location of the TOR-1M systems as 500 miles further south; as for planemans thread - i am mistaken on the syrian one , but i know he made a post with regards to the location of the syrian sam systems in ragard to ths illegal attack.
Originally posted by HatTrick
Um, intelgurl, I noticed your sig, and all, but I think you gave out semi-classified or at least very recently de-classified information? Don't get me wrong - I really enjoy your posts. I just don't want you to "disappear".