Charlton Heston dead at 84

Ok, I'll bring two buckets of popcorn... for two movies

I gotta tell you, it IS pretty low-class to start harping on someone after they just died. For those of you who didn't care for his acting style, fine. Didn't care for his association with the NRA, fine.

Here's the deal, at least show a little respect for the man at his death for two reasons: First it shows a level of maturity and secondly, maybe WE liked him!

%$@&, even Michael Moore put a picture of him on his website!

Originally posted by The Nighthawk
So goosdawg, which one of us gets to pry that gun out of his cold, dead hands? Should we have a lottery? Draw straws?

I've got my crowbar and pliers all ready to go...

[edit on 4/6/2008 by The Nighthawk]

Pathetic... I dont judge you, I pity your utter lack of decency Nighthawk.

Rasobasi will not agree with me when I say this, but the statement above really has no class, no decorum and no civility. It is the electronic equivalent of dancing on another mans grave.

While I never saw his movies, I found his leadership of the NRA inspiring, if a little too brazen. Sad to hear of any death nonetheless, much more so for the loss of a defender of freedom.

I'm simply stating that my opinion of an individual doesn't change because he's dead. If the thread title was
'Charleton Heston Alive at 84' I'd say the exact same thing.

as for the statement "Sad to hear of any death nonetheless", I bet you were singing a different tune when Saddam was swinging from the rafters.

And what about his own total lack of respect for the recently dead?

Originally posted by Rasobasi420
I'm simply stating that my opinion of an individual doesn't change because he's dead. If the thread title was
'Charleton Heston Alive at 84' I'd say the exact same thing.

as for the statement "Sad to hear of any death nonetheless", I bet you were singing a different tune when Saddam was swinging from the rafters.

And what about his own total lack of respect for the recently dead?

Be that as it may, the thread isnt about Heston being alive, it was a chance to respectfully mark the passing of a man.

And no, I wasnt happy about Saddam's death... the way he was executed was a farce (with people shouting at him moments before he died).

As I said about Heston, he was a bit brazen with his attitude... he ought to have stayed away from Columbine for decency's sake.

You dont treat a man as he treated others, do you? Showing respect to the dead, whether they are a good man such as Heston or a dictator like Saddam, is the mark of class.

Originally posted by 44soulslayer
You dont treat a man as he treated others, do you? Showing respect to the dead, whether they are a good man such as Heston or a dictator like Saddam, is the mark of class.

Pfft. Heston himself didn't respect the dead. Dead kids, no less!! He had no class, so why should anyone treat him with class upon his own death?

And just to keep the fun coming...Shortpacked

Not my work, but good nonetheless.

reply to post by The Nighthawk


One might mention People Magazine's breathless anticipation of his death, as well as their endless exploitation of other celebrity's passings.

That's classy, huh?

Not that I read that crap, but scanning the covers passes the time while waiting in line at the supermarket.

What's the proper amount of time to wait before dissing the dead?

If they didn't deserve respect while alive, what suddenly makes them deserving just because they died?

Nobody gets out of here alive...

heh...

Funny comic...

Originally posted by The Nighthawk

Originally posted by 44soulslayer
You dont treat a man as he treated others, do you? Showing respect to the dead, whether they are a good man such as Heston or a dictator like Saddam, is the mark of class.

Pfft. Heston himself didn't respect the dead. Dead kids, no less!! He had no class, so why should anyone treat him with class upon his own death?

And just to keep the fun coming...Shortpacked

Not my work, but good nonetheless.

Thanks for proving my point.

Its not about treating him with class- its about you having class.

Class is showing respect towards others even if you didnt respect their views. Needless to say if you need to be explained it, you probably havent got it.

Originally posted by 44soulslayer
Its not about treating him with class- its about you having class.

Class is showing respect towards others even if you didnt respect their views. Needless to say if you need to be explained it, you probably havent got it.

You didn't have to explain it. I understood you perfectly well. I just disagree with you. To feign respect for someone you have no genuine respect for, regardless of the circumstances, is intellectually dishonest. I don't see that as "class". I see it as lying, pure and simple. Now had I an ounce of respect for Heston, I wouldn't joke at his demise. But I don't. Not one damn bit. He led an organization that lobbied to prevent common-sense gun legislation and cripple enforcement efforts for the laws already on the books. Because of him and the NRA, there are many states where convicted criminals and the mentally ill can get guns through legal sources. As a result people die. Heston is therefore a de facto murderer. He compounded his misguided crusade with his own "lack of class" regarding the dead of Columbine. He deserves no respect in my eyes, living or dead. Tear my argument apart if you wish. Rail against my Socialist views. I don't care. I own it and I take responsibility for it, and I don't care what you think is class, or a lack thereof.

reply to post by The Nighthawk


Fair enough, you are entitled to your views.

But in my book, sinking to another's level is a lack of class.

At any rate, making jokes about the dead is tasteful in your book is it?

Though I suppose I can see what you mean by it being disingenuous to feign respect... but why make jokes at the recently deceased in a thread set up to comemmorate his life?

Regardless of your opinion about the real life Heston, he is the last of the greats from Hollywood's golden era, before the method actors took over.

RIP Charlton, and your hands are now in fact cold and dead.

"LET MY PEOPLE GO!!!!!!!!"

Peace

reply to post by Dr Love


Nah, he was the over actor from an age of over actors. Whether that's something to be proud of, I guess you'll have to ask some other over actors.

Besides ,why would you play a role and not want your character to be believable as the character? You should want your audience to believe they're watching a real character rather than an actor playing a character.

[edit on 8-4-2008 by Rasobasi420]