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Palestinians slaughter rare species in Gaza

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posted on Apr, 7 2008 @ 06:55 PM
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Originally posted by specialfarce

that is the most dumbfounded excuse i have ever heard. YOU are uneducated. stop feeling sorry for merciless killers. there are reasons for what israel has done and trust me, THEY ARE NOT UNPROVOKED!!


It would be dumbfounded of us to just absolutely believe everything you say based on your word alone. We are open, please post something with substance to back it up.

[edit on 073030p://7u51 by Lucid Lunacy]




posted on Apr, 7 2008 @ 07:15 PM
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Originally posted by ChadOnLife
There are Palestinians, who murder humans. Don't be surprised when they don't seem to appreciate animals.


And Americans kill Iraqis and kill cows. Bah. It's all wrong! It's killing!

*sighs*



posted on Apr, 7 2008 @ 07:23 PM
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Originally posted by Midav

Now, prove to me they were, indeed, desperate.


Actually proving they were desperate was the effort of many other members here, such as DJ. I feel that it is a strong possibility. But sure, I will research and report what I find.


From what I could tell, those people looked well nourished. Especially the man in the white shirt holding the knife


You can be desperately hungry...starving...and not physically show it. It's circumstantial.

For instance, do you not think a 300 pound man could starve?

Imagine a 300 pound man ate VERY little for a month. Or maybe nothing for 2 weeks. What would he look like? He would still be a fatty



posted on Apr, 7 2008 @ 07:30 PM
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Dang Lucid, you sound like a broken record, over and over throughout the whole thread. We get your stance allready, which is really weak so just stop it. Cows are not the same, so just stop it allready. I'm guessin you have some sort of pride involved with all this, maybe not but your ignorance is astounding. There is no justification for killing an endangered species whoever you are, it's childish to point and say, "well he did it too".

They obviously have other meens of feeding themselves, they by no meens look impoverished and by their own words they say they killed the Turtle for far more selfish reasons than hunger, they want it for its theropeutic qualities, the meat is supposedly an aphrodesiac and possibly help breathing problems by drinking its blood. Cmon....WTF!



posted on Apr, 7 2008 @ 07:59 PM
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See, why I say prove it is because I didn't make the claim they were, indeed starving.

Why I say they are not:

They would be looking out for the kids and/or their families and not just themselves. People do tend to have similar values when it comes to family. They wouldn't care they had snagged a 600kg viagra pill. If starving, they probably would have needed more manpower to get an animal that heavy on the shore. A man that big and acting very normal? And the border has been closed how long? Nothing mentioned by those people starving? If they were smart and starving, they'd have the press take footage of their poor kids while eating the turtle meat.

Maybe we should get Michael Moore involved in this..... Bowling for Gaza hmmmmm


Meant in jest. Nothing more, nothing less



posted on Apr, 7 2008 @ 08:41 PM
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Originally posted by Lucid Lunacy


Imagine a 300 pound man ate VERY little for a month. Or maybe nothing for 2 weeks. What would he look like? He would still be a fatty



Probably. I am closer to the 400 range, and i would just eat your food. or find a sea turtle and eat it.

Sea turtle....mmmm, good with garlic butter, or in a stew.

Listen, when you are hungry, protein is a wonderful thing. This turtle was in the unfortunate position of being litterally laden with protein, as it is a live creature. I would eat my own foot if i was starving.

Most everyone posting here can buy a loaf of bread. These people can't even get grain to make flour from (how many of you could even do that?).

Screw the turtle. People come first, animals second. Food is food.

[edit on 7-4-2008 by bigfatfurrytexan]



posted on Apr, 7 2008 @ 08:51 PM
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Not a big believer in endangered species. A life form will come into existence to provide an proper vehicle for a particular karmic combination. So long as there are spirits needing that life form it will exist. When there aren't, it will become "Extinct". When it will be needed again, it will come back. I don't think humans can really over power nature not matter how they might seem to try. They may be compelled to behave in a particular way to facilitate extinction or perpetuation.



posted on Apr, 7 2008 @ 09:14 PM
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This is the part where many will have to agree to disagree on the basis of personal philosophies.

I personally do value endangered species. There are too many thathave been/are being killed off just for the heck of it to harvest oils, make statues etc...

If there trully and honestly were a starving population on that beach and they found that turtle, I'd have no problem with them killing and eating it.

It would have served a useful purpose.

However, in this case and I have already made my opinion known why, I don't see that it was needed.



posted on Apr, 7 2008 @ 09:17 PM
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I think its none of our business or Reuters.

But lets talk about it any way.

God is good to send them turtles.



posted on Apr, 7 2008 @ 09:43 PM
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these palestinians have violated the sacred kingdom of the sea god posidon by killing one of his sacred turtles. now one hundred palestinians must be thrown into the sea has tribute to posidon!



posted on Apr, 7 2008 @ 09:58 PM
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Originally posted by rogues gallery
these palestinians have violated the sacred kingdom of the sea god posidon by killing one of his sacred turtles. now one hundred palestinians must be thrown into the sea has tribute to posidon!


It's Poseidon.

Now go sacrifice 12 virgin sharks for mispronouncing the Great Poseidon's name.




posted on Apr, 7 2008 @ 09:59 PM
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There are less than 1200 wild tigers left in INDIA. But, they keep killing them for their paws, hides, teeth, testicles, and other internal parts. The idea that it will give some Indian jackass a bigger and more powerful woody to bone his woman with is more than stupid. The Chinese are just as ignorant. They buy tiger products from India. An undercover investigation was done by Dateline not long ago, and they found all sorts of very rare, or endangered animals or parts of them in Chinese/Indonesian drug stores. THIS IS WHY I REFUSE TO BUY CHINESE/Indonesian GOODS IF I CAN AT ALL HELP HELP IT> They are nothing but a bunch of ignorant ground apes.
I don't see them as enlightened celestials,they're just a bunch of powered rhino horn ingesting, bears gull bladder infused tea sipping, golden monkey brain gobbling, inbreds. Screw the 2008 Olympics. Tell `em all to go to hell. When you get an Indian service tech on the phone, tell them to quit killing the tigers...and hang up!
Humans suck! Bunch of pecker length obsessed, female tail chasing, God less mutants...we all deserve to burn in hell.



posted on Apr, 7 2008 @ 11:02 PM
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Nice post. Your right, to see people defending these pecker heads just goes to show the current state of the stupid humans that can't maintain an equilibrium with the planet. We are going to hell in a handbasket.



posted on Apr, 8 2008 @ 04:58 AM
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Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan

Screw the turtle. People come first, animals second. Food is food.



I am a veggie-eating lover of all animals kinda guy. But I very much agree, my loyalty is first to Human. If they were desperate for food because their bodies needed the sustenance to survive, then they did what must be done


I said ealier that I feel people underestimate how many edibles are in the wild if you educate yourself enough to see them. I think they could work together and find them, or start growing a little community garden. But if they didn't have that education and they were starving then I understand completely.

[edit on 043030p://8u35 by Lucid Lunacy]



posted on Apr, 8 2008 @ 05:09 AM
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Originally posted by Sheeper
We get your stance allready, which is really weak so just stop it.


No.


Cows are not the same, so just stop it allready.


No.


I'm guessin you have some sort of pride involved with all this, maybe not but your ignorance is astounding.


My ignorance is astounding? Did you just want to insult me, or do you care to elaborate?

Pride? About what? Not saying I don't, but I am not sure what you mean?


There is no justification for killing an endangered species whoever you are, it's childish to point and say, "well he did it too".


More name calling. That's childish.

If you look at my posts you will see that I am not only against eating animals in general, but I was clear that I felt they could have found plant edibles instead. I said "if" they were starving for food then I understand and I feel it is justified at that point. Why is it okay for humans to starve to death?


They obviously have other meens of feeding themselves, they by no meens look impoverished


Look at the posts above for that answer.

[edit on 053030p://8u00 by Lucid Lunacy]



posted on Apr, 8 2008 @ 05:20 AM
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Originally posted by Midav

See, why I say prove it is because I didn't make the claim they were, indeed starving.


Neither did I


I was clear about the "if" aspect I felt.

But anyways, I will attempt to prove it, if you will attempt to prove the contrary..


Why I say they are not:

They would be looking out for the kids and/or their families and not just themselves.


Not necessarily. You are underestimating the power of starvation. *if that was the case* If it gets bad enough then most humans would not factor in other people. It's the primal, biological drive to feed in order to live. That force takes over morals and ethics man..


If starving, they probably would have needed more manpower to get an animal that heavy on the shore.


I dunno. It's all speculation. I am sure we could come up with scenarios that would make it an easy catch. Such as, maybe the leatherback was already on the shore?


If they were smart and starving, they'd have the press take footage of their poor kids while eating the turtle meat.


Yet another aspect of starvation; impacts the frontal lobe processes



posted on Apr, 8 2008 @ 05:54 AM
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Catch is (pun intended
), if it were this case and people acted on primal instinct and starvation were rampant, the so called aphrodisiac values and other therapeutic qualities would be irrelevant.

Crowds would be rushing there. There would probably be fighting instead of giving interviews on camera. There is still enough sense that if starvation were taking place, they would, indeed, not just eat the meat by themselves. Those people are coherent.

They are too easy going on shore.

Just curious... did you watch the video? What did the guy in the orange coat say?



posted on Apr, 8 2008 @ 06:11 AM
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I would suggest this whole issue really isn't about food for the starving......more likely, as earlier stated, it is about a 600kg Viagra pill that can make a hundred more babies to grow up to hate Israel. And even perhaps a few suicide bombers too..........................The drinking of the blood is just weird....................


The Perspective of the Turtle Blood Consumer

Turtle blood consumers wait in the market for a cup of fresh blood. These are mostly young women who believe it will make them gain weight (It is traditional in this area that thin women are not considered attractive), and also some of them believe that turtle blood will make them more fertile. Fewer men drink turtle blood; those that do believe it to be an aphrodisiac and a general tonic. The price of a cup of blood is about 0.25US$. According to the Islamic religion, drinking animal's blood is forbidden, although some people claim that this does not apply to the sea turtle because they are sea creatures.The discussion groups indicated that with increasing educational standards, sea turtle blood consumption is slowly decreasing.


www.seaturtle.org...

Interesting study of weirdness.............

Here is why it is also dangerous............

www.wildlifetrust.org...

[edit on 8-4-2008 by heliosprime]



posted on Apr, 8 2008 @ 06:12 AM
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It's 4:08 here so I am off to bed, but I will respond tomorrow.

I will say this real quick though:

I have been through starvation multiple times. You can be coherent and starving at the same time. Yes it can and will affect many biological and psychological processes. It's not concrete, it will manifest and affect people differently. I myself, have been coherent during these times. Just wanted to add that.



posted on Apr, 8 2008 @ 06:16 AM
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Did you miss DJs earlier posts?

And did you miss this part from your post?


According to the Islamic religion, drinking animal's blood is forbidden


So apparently they share your view that blood-drinking is weird.

Anyways, it's clear you just want to hate. No? Show us.

[edit on 063030p://8u17 by Lucid Lunacy]




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