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Originally posted by Disclosed
You want ME to apologize because your link doesnt mention jet blast at all?.
I'm betting they will discuss that in a "jet blast" or "jet wash" thread, rather than a "jet engine sim" thread.
Wouldnt you think?
Originally posted by weedwhacker
Oh dear....ULTIMA....you just opened upa can of worms, there!! Have fun!!!
Originally posted by ULTIMA1
I want an apology becasue you stated this thread was not about jet blast when i have shown the OP did state jet blast.
Originally posted by Disclosed
Your link does not show anything about jet blast or jet wash.
So, in essence, your first post in this thread is mis-information....you say it talks about jetwash
Originally posted by ULTIMA1
1. The OP has a sim showing what the jet blast would be coming out of the engines..
Originally posted by weedwhacker
Well...ULTIMA....you are the OP in this thread....please explain to your audience, now that you have our attention....what exactly IS the point of the 'Jet engine sim for testing 9/11 planes' ???
Originally posted by ULTIMA1
Also as stated in the post the sim shows jet blast that would be coming from the engine at different speeds and altitudes.
Originally posted by Disclosed
I ran the sim on the link you provided.
Originally posted by weedwhacker
ULTIMA...per your last post....could you please help me out? to what are you referring??
erodynamicists often refer to the first term (m dot * V)e as the gross thrust since this term is largely associated with conditions in the nozzle. The second term (m dot * V)0 is called the ram drag and is usually associated with conditions in the inlet. For clarity, the engine thrust is then called the net thrust. Our thrust equation indicates that net thrust equals gross thrust minus ram drag.
Originally posted by Disclosed
This site still does not mention Jet wash or jet blast.
Jetwash refers simply to the rapidly moving gasses expelled from a jet engine; it is extremely turbulent, but of short duration.
Originally posted by ULTIMA1
Originally posted by weedwhacker
ULTIMA...per your last post....could you please help me out? to what are you referring??
Ok, on the right side of the sim you should see the following items.
NET THRUST --------- FUEL FLOW
GROSS THRUST ------ TSFC
RAM DRAG -------- CORE AIRFLOW
Fnet/W ---------- WEIGHT
Do you see those items?
[edit on 18-5-2008 by ULTIMA1]
Um....ULTIMA....what you just provided has no logic as it pertains to how a modern engine operates.....sorry!!
OK....NET THRUST=FUEL FLOW....well....that was correct.
What is TSFC?....is this from your silly simultor??? The thing we already debunked as being a piece of garbage???
Originally posted by weedwhacker
OK....NET THRUST=FUEL FLOW....well....that was correct.
Originally posted by weedwhacker
Yes..of course.....it has the stated values....but.....these do not show up, n flight.
A jet engine is a reaction engine that discharges a fast moving jet of fluid to generate thrust in accordance with Newton's third law of motion.
Jet blast is the phenomenon of rapid air movement produced by the jet engines of aircraft, particularly on or before takeoff.
Jetwash refers simply to the rapidly moving gasses expelled from a jet engine; it is extremely turbulent, but of short duration.