Originally posted by zeroeffect
Dr.Seth Schostack who is a scientist with SETI made a good point that they work closely with NASA and have seen no evidence of information withholding from NASA. So what does NASA have to gain from keeping this information secret?

The Evolution Theory theorizes that life on Earth began as micro organisms that evolved to all life that existed and has existed. Now if it is made publicly known that indeed micro organisms are living on Mars, then it begs the question whether more advanced life has lived on Mars (or maybe still is living). The only way to know that is to go to Mars and start digging and exploring. That is going to cost way more and then look at the implications: what if we find proof of higher Martian life forms? Maybe even life forms as intelligent as we are of even more intelligent? How will that sit with people? How will that shatter all sorts of religions notions? And last but not least: if we find sentient life on Mars what should we do next?

Originally posted by mikesingh

The Viking Landers touched down at 25 deg and 40 deg North Lat (approx). How come? I think this is some sort of conspiracy here. Their contention that they cannot land obove 10 deg North Lat is a lot of hot air.

Correct

cept Viking ran on radioactive fuel for it's power source.

But

The rover Sprite had a major computer malfunction when it first started to move out and explore. Which look very much like a CPU over heating AND the rovers have enough sun light to ran at 95% power even with tons of dust on them for years now. YEARS of DUST.

I am sure you fellow ATS'ers understand how much damage would be done if the religous public found out that life exists on others planets? We are "suppose" to be the only ones, claim the religous people, but any smart person would know thats crazy.

NASA isn't hiding it, the church is forcing them. Thats what I think.

[edit on 7-4-2008 by lawlb0t]

Here's a positive image from the same rover pic as above ,only slightly more toward center. The humanoids above are not shown in this pic.This is to show the diversity of faces in the smaller faces category.Most of these faces are smaller than a softball/grapefruit (though some are larger). They are hard to see them all since people mostly don't recognize them as faces,having never experienced seeing a good sharp pic of them. They tend to be close to the ground and snake-like (perhaps 60%). The humanoid miniatures are hard to see,and I haven't seen many full figures because they seem to travel in crowds of mixed species.I have long wondered if the coziness between mixed species is friendliness or warmth(body heat)?

Originally posted by vze2xjjk

Here's a positive image from the same rover pic as above ,only slightly more toward center. The humanoids above are not shown in this pic.This is to show the diversity of faces in the smaller faces category.Most of these faces are smaller than a softball/grapefruit (though some are larger). They are hard to see them all since people mostly don't recognize them as faces,having never experienced seeing a good sharp pic of them. They tend to be close to the ground and snake-like (perhaps 60%). The humanoid miniatures are hard to see,and I haven't seen many full figures because they seem to travel in crowds of mixed species.I have long wondered if the coziness between mixed species is friendliness or warmth(body heat)?

ARE YOU SERIOUS???

Faces you say do you mean the ground?? with shadows come get it together!!!

its is posts like this that make me see how ignorant others can be.

From, KSCVETERAN:
There is far more life on Mars than any of you can imagine!
Microbial, YES, but, also, life that walks on two legs.
Open my website at:

www.stargate-chronices.com

If you question my knowledge.
C.

Its a hard call at times and analyzing imagery can be difficult at best.

In some ways it can be like a Rorschach Ink Blot Test. People see what they want to see

WOW Mike, pat on the back again for you my son, cracking work!!!

How in the hell do you dig this stuff up??? I mean WOW, maybe I should take a leaf outta your book and put more effort in for my University assignments

[speechless]

fantastic, I've seen the pictures of the blue skies on mars before, but the evidence you put forth for the possibility of life is stunning.

Anyone else think John Lear may have been on to something?



Star and flag

quote]Originally posted by Shere Khaan

Originally posted by waffles
Did anybody even read my goddamn post? You are the most unscientific bunch of kooks I've ever chanced to hear opinionate, and I thought *I* was a kook.

I cannot believe that the train of logic for this thread that everyone is debating is "Did NASA # with the colors of the pictures? If so, then they must be hiding something, and if they are hiding something, there must be life on Mars! #!"

Aaack.

There are many trains of thought in this thread and the photo colour is just one part. Try checking out some of the other sources and you might be quite surprised where it leads you. For instance we were told that no liquid water can exist on Mars, and yet the surface temperature does in fact go above 0 degrees celcius, and that water ice clouds form at the equator.



I addressed the question of water in my post, and was promptly ignored. Maybe if I had more psychadelically colored pictures of landscrapes with FACES--> written in Paint everywhere someone might have paid me some attention.

Let me restate, since I think my post was too scientific for this crowd.

YES- TEMPERATURES ON THE SURFACE OF MARS GET ABOVE THE FREEZING POINT OF WATER.

YES- WATER ICE AND WATER VAPOR EXIST ON MARS.

NO- LIQUID WATER CANNOT EXIST EVEN AT ABOVE-FREEZING TEMPERATURES, BECAUSE THE ATMOSPHERE OF MARS IS 1/100 THAT OF EARTH, SO ANY ICE THAT MELTS WILL IMMEDIATELY BOIL INTO VAPOR.

You people need to read a 6th grade textbook. Most scientists agree that there is probably enough water locked in the ground and atmosphere of Mars to cover the surface of the planet uniformly with 50 feet of water. The next argument I foresee from anyone that cares to respond to me is that 'OMG NASA is only telling us that Mars has 0.01 atmospheres because the people already there don't want us to know that Mars is just like Earth!'
When you get to that stage, you might as well just deny every single thing we've learned about Mars in the modern age and start talking about the advanced alien civilization building the 'canals' all over the damn planet.