Scientific Evidence Of Life On Mars!! Why is NASA Obfuscating The Truth?, page 2
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reply posted on 5-4-2008 @ 01:56 PM by Mekanic
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Wow Mike! That, like everything you have done is very well researched and well put together. I think you deserve a new title on the forums. Say... Research Gawd!


reply posted on 5-4-2008 @ 02:07 PM by zysin5
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mikesingh does it agin folks! I can say alot of us here can learn a thing or two about how to make a post, and make that post count!
He has always provided facts, pictures, and something to back up his claim!
While the whole time I have already known much about what he is laying out for us here.. ITs nice to have the evidence to back up ones claims!

Agin much respect for you Mike! You bring much to the table here! And seriously think you are going to be the next conspiracy Master here on ATS! Good work!
And keep it up
You are making some good progress getting those who doubt all this to take another look.
If not anything, if one doesnt feel this adds up, atleast this helps you take a look, and re-think where you stand on all this.

NASA has many reasons to lie to us. As Mike points out in many of his other threads. And dropping hints and clues for us all to follow here.
I can admire anyone who puts this effort forth. I mean he isnt getting paided, and is here of his free will to help us understand.
Good looking out and keep us posted on any new finds you will come across.. You make us proud Mike


reply posted on 5-4-2008 @ 02:53 PM by waffles
I am certainly not an expert, but I think there are some flaws in your reasoning.

First of all, the Martian surface can certainly get warm enough for us to assume that ice would melt into water. However, Mars' atmosphere is somewhere around 1/100 of our own. Look at some steam tables and you'll see that the vapor pressure of water, even just above freezing, is quite large. Even the vapor pressure of ice at that pressure is certainly not negligible. In other words, it is a correct statement to say that liquid water does exist on Mars, but only as an extremely short-lived intermediate between the solid phase and vapor phase...for all intents and purposes, it does NOT exist in any environment we have found on Mars. The enthalpic change of melting would guarantee that the water would have continued on into the vapor dome before the smallest droplet could collect.
Water does still move around the planet and have a large influence in shaping the terrain, but ONLY in the form of ice and vapor.

For another point, I know that all of our tests and measurements have confirmed that the soil is both magnetic (mostly from high iron content, as well as nickel and cobalt) and contains a fair amount of peroxides (which would react immediately with liquid water anyways to give off oxygen). If anything, these two characteristics would reinforce each other. Fe3O4, or hematite, which is the oxide of iron in the highest reasonably-seen oxidation state, is the most magnetic of the oxide/hydroxides, if I remember correctly. So I'm not sure why you say that intrinsic magnetism and an oxidizing environment are mutually exclusive?

Its not that I don't believe in the possibility of life existing now or having existed in the past (Mars probably used to have liquid water all over the place). But it seems like, except for a couple microscopic fossils that resemble the basic shape of a microorganism, there is zero actual evidence pointing towards life.



reply posted on 5-4-2008 @ 03:57 PM by ignorant_ape
reply to post by ajapocalypse



to be brutally blunt

if that is your ` proof ` you need help

look at the picture you posted carefully the mars and earth pics that you claim are the same are totally different units

look at the surround and the green on earth - and compare them to the mars pic

specifications change - this may suprise you - but they do

you are claiming a conspiracy by " comparing " 2 totally different units



reply posted on 5-4-2008 @ 04:37 PM by Neiby
reply to post by SonicInfinity



In what way does frost prove life? That literally makes no sense whatsoever.


reply posted on 5-4-2008 @ 04:38 PM by ArMaP
reply to post by ajapocalypse



Although maybe off-topic, I would like to say that the photo with the red patch in the place of the blue patch is most probably the result of not using images from the correct filters.

Mars rovers have two panoramic camera each, each camera has 7 different filters for different wavelengths.

All photos from the rovers are grayscale, to create a colour image we must add three images from the red, the green and the blue filters. But if we use images from the infrared, for example, instead of the red, the result will look completely different.



Edited to add the images.

Image created with near infrared, green and blue filters.


Image created with red, green and blue filters.


[edit on 5/4/2008 by ArMaP]
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