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Originally posted by alundaio
Muslims should be treated with more respect just because they are Human, like us. They are just trying to get by in life, just as we are. THey aren't terrorists. They want to live and feed their children. Everyone has the right to believe in what they want.
Originally posted by poet1b
So bobloyi, Do You agree, that anyone who would commit an honor killing it truly a terrible person, and deserves all the horror promised in hell? Can you openly condemn honor killings as a horrible attrocity here on the forum?
Originally posted by poet1b
Apparently, a large number of those backward tribes that practice honor killings have migrated to Europe and N. America, because there are wide spread honor killings being carried out by Muslims in Europe and N. America.
"The Progressive Women's Association, which assists attack victims, tracked 3,560 women who were hospitalized after being attacked at home with fire, gasoline or acid between 1994 and 1999," according to Constable. About half the victims died. Lawyer and women's activist Nahida Mahbooba Elahi states that "We deal with these cases every day, but I have seen very few convictions. The men say the wife didn't obey their orders, or was having relations with someone else. The police often say it is a domestic matter and refuse to pursue the case. Some judges even justify it and do not consider it murder."
Originally posted by poet1b
You have a slippery way of saying things, leaving it open to differing interpretations. Saying you would not hold back on the condemning leaves things very much open.
Originally posted by babloyi
As for your 'According to your logic...' argument, it seems your logic has not realised something very important: If something is forbidden under a certain law, and a person still does it, you can't really say 'that law is evil! It allows such and such a thing!".
Originally posted by alundaio
Muslims should be treated with more respect just because they are Human, like us. They are just trying to get by in life, just as we are. THey aren't terrorists. They want to live and feed their children. Everyone has the right to believe in what they want.
Originally posted by babloyi
Also, your statement that Muslims do not make friends with non-Muslims is false, so your question is based on a number of assumptions. There is no 'obvious problem'.
Originally posted by babloyi
Your second question also seems to be based on some assumptions, mainly that the individuals that attacked the airport in the UK were practicing taqiyya (or, for that matter, the assumption that they were following Islam).
Originally posted by babloyi
The Quran may have many layers of meaning, but this does not mean it is not exactingly clear about whatever it is talking about, when it is talked about. The verse I gave you differentiating between kafirs and non-muslims is a good example.
They are willing to accept the words of 'village mullahs' (who, while they might show them the right path, may also brainwash them for their own gain).
Originally posted by babloyi
About the Quran promoting universal brotherhood, here are two verses from memory:
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Abrogated surah
AL-MUMTAHINA 8
Allah forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) Faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for Allah loveth those who are just. AT-
Substituted TAWBA 5
But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practice regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
www.thequran.com...,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,41,46,51,66,71
the arabs i have worked next to never gave 1 bit of trouble