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Originally posted by budski
reply to post by BlueRaja
Of course you do.
Whatever you think yourself is fine - but I and many others know differently.
And now back to the topic - Yes I believe that Bush was at the very minimum complicit in instigating the US policies in iraq and at the most is guilty of war crimes along with the rest of his cabinet who had any involvement in the illegal occupation, torture of innocents and mass murder of civilians,as well as the wanton destruction of a nation and illegal seizure of their sovereign wealth and resources.
There is no doubt in my (and many others) mind that he should be arrested and tried for his crimes against humanity and the iraqi people in particular.
Originally posted by DimensionalDetective
Honestly, I just don't understand this anymore...I'm left scratching my head in disbelief how our country could become so lawless, and how no one is held accountable. I feel like I'm living in the midieval times with a ruthless royalty decimating and abusing the peons.
The worst part is this criminal Congress is completely complicit and actually aiding and abetting the admin in these crimes against humanity...And make no mistake, THEY ARE GUILTY OF WAR CRIMES!
Disgusting to no end.
(visit the link for the full news article)
- who decides if the occupation is legal or illegal? The Ba'ath Party? Sadr? Al Qaeda? or the current Iraqi government which was voted on by the majority of the Iraqis.
- where's the evidence of mass murder of Iraqi civilians by US forces?
- what illegal seizures have been made of sovereign wealth and resources, and who is the one accusing us? The Iraqis at large, or anti war westerners?
- how many innocents(or guilty parties for that matter) have been tortured exactly, under Bush's policies?
- what are Bush's crimes against humanity, that don't involve the Iraqi people, since according to you he's committed them?
Do you see a pattern here- lot's of opinion, but a bit light on hard facts(that are provable).
Originally posted by budski
A- Did the coalition have a UN mandate to invade another sovereign nation?
Do you think that UN and international law applies only to other countries and that the US is exmpt for some reason?
B-The John Hopkins Institute report, The Lancet Report, eyewitness testimony and even IBC, and that's before we even get to the disgracefull cover up of the haditha massacre - there are in all likelihood many other similar events which have gone unreported.
enough said - when did it become US oil???
D- www.globalpolicy.org... Try this link and then we'll see if you can continue to skirt the issue - you can harp on about exact numbers all you want, that doesn't change the fact that the US has engaged in the torture of prisoners.
And before you ask who decides what constitutes torture, read the link and the outrage expressed by civilised nations the world over.
It happened and it continues to happen.
Therefore the people who ordered it are as guilty of war crimes and crimes against humanity as saddam was.
[edit on 10/4/2008 by budski]