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Police: Florida man with weapons cache charged with threatening Virginia Tech-style massacre

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posted on Apr, 4 2008 @ 08:35 AM
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Police: Florida man with weapons cache charged with threatening Virginia Tech-style massacre


www.startribune.com

A 20-year-old with a weapons cache that included four AK-47s was arrested after threatening over the Internet to undertake a Virginia Tech-style massacre, authorities said Thursday.

Wong was charged with making written threats to kill or do bodily injury via the computer and bonded out for $7,500. Additional charges are pending, he said
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posted on Apr, 4 2008 @ 08:35 AM
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This man had a substantial cache of firearms so I tend to think he may have been just a bit paranoid of something in life. Hopefully he really did not want to actually kill students but it was a sign of a mental issue he has. Guess either way it is best he is not longer so well armed.

Glad it did not turn into a standoff with police.

www.startribune.com
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Apr, 4 2008 @ 08:46 AM
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I hope this doesn't fuel more gun control. It could have turned ugly but it didn't. One interesting part of this is that the man parents didn't seem concerned about these weapons in their house or the fact that he had them. Wonder if they were in fear of their son or just didn't think anything of the situation.



posted on Apr, 4 2008 @ 09:07 AM
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I always hate it when the media uses lines like "including four AK-47's" like there is any difference between an AK-47 and any other semi-automatic rifle.

Well, the difference is that imbeciles who just sit in front of TV's all day and watch action movies know the image of an AK-47 as it is projected on TV and in movies and even in video games. No better way to educate the ignorant than with more ignorance. Way to go media. You've officially demonized the AK-47 in CT and CA at least.

Here's a fun fact. In CT it is illegal to buy an AK-47 yet you can buy an AK-74. In MA it is illegal to buy an AK-74 but you can buy an AK-47.

I'm in CT and I own a Mini 30. Nope, that's not illegal. The AK-47 is though. Figure that one out.

The anti-gun stupidity is astounding.

I hate you CT. If I had to choose to nuke Iran or CT I'd choose CT. Iran hasn't harmed my life at all but CT has put me in shackles.



posted on Apr, 4 2008 @ 09:49 AM
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Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
I always hate it when the media uses lines like "including four AK-47's" like there is any difference between an AK-47 and any other semi-automatic rifle.

Well, the difference is that imbeciles who just sit in front of TV's all day and watch action movies know the image of an AK-47 as it is projected on TV and in movies and even in video games. No better way to educate the ignorant than with more ignorance. Way to go media. You've officially demonized the AK-47 in CT and CA at least.

Here's a fun fact. In CT it is illegal to buy an AK-47 yet you can buy an AK-74. In MA it is illegal to buy an AK-74 but you can buy an AK-47.

I'm in CT and I own a Mini 30. Nope, that's not illegal. The AK-47 is though. Figure that one out.

The anti-gun stupidity is astounding.

I hate you CT. If I had to choose to nuke Iran or CT I'd choose CT. Iran hasn't harmed my life at all but CT has put me in shackles.


You're "in shackles" because you can't buy an AK-47? Wow, sucks to be you. My understanding is AKs kinda suck anyway, so CT might be doing you a favor on this one. My advice: Save up, buy an HK SL8 and jazz it up. If you're set on having an assault rifle, go all-out and get something really good. If I didn't live in a city where all guns are banned it's what I'd do.



posted on Apr, 4 2008 @ 10:00 AM
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I already have a substantial collection of "assault" style rifles. Yeah, AK's suck for accuracy but for reliability vs. cost they can't be beat. In case you don't get it that's not the point. The point is I'm being told for no apparent reason (even if there was a reason I'd still be pissed off) that I cannot own something in the alleged land of the free. You start accepting this "it's okay you don't need one anyway" attitude and all sorts of things are going to be banned.

Worse than simple shackles it's a little game of pacification they play. Deny you one thing and "allow" you another and you're supposed to be happy with the arrangement. They do this to prisoners of war, slaves and they did it to the Jews in the concentration camps.

If you're okay with it then fine. I'm not okay with it.



posted on Apr, 4 2008 @ 10:36 AM
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Guy, just move to Floriduuuuh. Our system sucks, our public schools are a joke, but you can buy pretty much any gun on the market, and for a decent price too. I can go, right now, and get an AK47 for four hundred dollars two miles from my house.



posted on Apr, 4 2008 @ 10:40 AM
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He sounds like a disturbed kid that watched too many movies. I'd imagine he was an outcast in high school, and viewed the internet as his last hope for some positive affirmation.

When he got marginalized there as well, he lost it, and started making threats to get attention.

Well, he got the attention he so craved, and now he's probably very pleased with himself.



posted on Apr, 4 2008 @ 10:43 AM
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Originally posted by LLoyd45
He sounds like a disturbed kid that watched too many movies. I'd imagine he was an outcast in high school, and viewed the internet as his last hope for some positive affirmation.

When he got marginalized there as well, he lost it, and started making threats to get attention.

Well, he got the attention he so craved, and now he's probably very pleased with himself.


Well, someone in prison is gonn be pleased with him. He gonna make new friends real quick.



posted on Apr, 4 2008 @ 11:20 AM
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Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
I already have a substantial collection of "assault" style rifles. Yeah, AK's suck for accuracy but for reliability vs. cost they can't be beat. In case you don't get it that's not the point.


Yeah, I get the point. You're a gun nut (sorry, "enthusiast") compensating for other "shortcomings."


The point is I'm being told for no apparent reason (even if there was a reason I'd still be pissed off) that I cannot own something in the alleged land of the free.


Yeah that sucks. I wish I could own a LOT of things that are illegal, or priced out of my range. But there's restrictions, and the people making those restrictions usually think they're doing the right thing.

You know where most gun control comes from? Not from Congress. They actually don't give a crap. It comes as a mandate from the People. People who are sick of shootings in their neighborhoods, on school campuses, in shopping malls and retail stores. People who are sick and tired of burying their children. They put pressure on their elected representatives, and gun control laws are passed. There's nothing "NWO" about it, and really nothing sinister. Just human beings, sick of death and destruction, who want it to end. NOW.


You start accepting this "it's okay you don't need one anyway" attitude and all sorts of things are going to be banned.


All sorts of things are already banned, and many of them are far less harmful than guns. Marijuana, '___', and Hashish to name a few. Certain kinds of animals are banned for importation as pets because they're dangerous, or because careless owners might dump them off by the side of the road where they become a threat to indiginous species. Lots of stuff is banned. You're going to find that no matter where you go, what country you live in. There is no such thing as a truly "free" society, because there's no way to have absolute freedom and actually still have a society. Absolute, unrestricted freedom is anarchy. It's the antithesis of civilization. Putting up with some ground rules is part of the price we pay to have a civilized society.


Worse than simple shackles it's a little game of pacification they play. Deny you one thing and "allow" you another and you're supposed to be happy with the arrangement. They do this to prisoners of war, slaves and they did it to the Jews in the concentration camps.


You're an alarmist. Nobody is actually taking away the guns you already have, and you have a wide range of guns you can still choose from. How many different killing machines do you need? Looking for a tank to put in your garage too? How about a fully-armed F-16? Line your sidewalk with Claymores? Why not add a SAM launcher to your patio? Where do you draw the line here? "OMG I can't have an AK-47!! I have to make do with all the other guns I already own, and the ones CT tells me I can buy!! Oh woe is me!! I'm so downtrodden!! Oh the drama!!!"

I feel SO sorry for you.



If you're okay with it then fine. I'm not okay with it.


Then do something about it. Work to change the law if you feel slighted. Or, as others have suggested, move to a state with fewer or no restrictions. Nevada's nice, and Vegas is a real fun place. You can buy a massive arsenal there to satisfy all your wants and "needs". And, the desert is a great place for your survival bunker.

Please. Get over yourself. If the worst thing in your life is not being able to buy an AK-47 you really need to get out more.



posted on Apr, 4 2008 @ 12:23 PM
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I thought the 'future arms dealer' take he put on his situation was unique. May be he truly believed he was going to make a pile of money some day. His threat may have been just due to anger over a deal gone bad but in today's world it was a big mistake on his part.

Calling the police to complain about a business deal having made the threat was a real mistake or mental lapse. I suppose it may be used for or against his mental state but seems more like anger and ego.

Out here in the country there are a lot of people who drink and own guns but people don't go around shooting or threating each other with guns. May be it is different in other states. I am surprised in a way but may be it does show that these incidents are just a few out of a very large possibility that does not happen.



posted on Apr, 4 2008 @ 12:50 PM
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Originally posted by LLoyd45
He sounds like a disturbed kid that watched too many movies. I'd imagine he was an outcast in high school, and viewed the internet as his last hope for some positive affirmation.


I'd imagine he was abused all his life, starting with his parents, then his so-called peers at government school, and so on, and so on. I'd imagine he was also a smart kid, maybe a little neuroatypical, and that just made it worse. Government schools are little more than suicide factories. Ban them, not guns.



posted on Apr, 4 2008 @ 12:53 PM
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Originally posted by Finn1916

Originally posted by LLoyd45
Well, he got the attention he so craved, and now he's probably very pleased with himself.


Well, someone in prison is gonn be pleased with him. He gonna make new friends real quick.


Unless he kills himself first, which is very likely.



posted on Apr, 4 2008 @ 01:22 PM
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Originally posted by The Nighthawk
You know where most gun control comes from? Not from Congress. They actually don't give a crap. It comes as a mandate from the People. People who are sick of shootings in their neighborhoods, on school campuses, in shopping malls and retail stores. People who are sick and tired of burying their children. They put pressure on their elected representatives, and gun control laws are passed. There's nothing "NWO" about it, and really nothing sinister. Just human beings, sick of death and destruction, who want it to end. NOW.


You do realize, that there are also people sick and tired of being robbed, beaten, and raped at knife-point, club-point, fist-point, tooth-point, claw-point, brass-knuckle-point, and the like. There are people who are sick of burying their children, spouses, parents, grandparents, friends, etc. who have died from non-gun violence.

A reasonable amount of self-defense is a right too. And lets face it, guns are the easiest ways to defend one's self. I can't understand all this paranoia about guns (and self-defense). This is not to suggest that everyone has a right to own an AK-47 or M-16, when a simple handgun or shotgun will do.



You start accepting this "it's okay you don't need one anyway" attitude and all sorts of things are going to be banned.


All sorts of things are already banned, and many of them are far less harmful than guns.


That doesn't mean this is morally right. Nor does it matter how many people support it. There is such a thing as tyranny of the majority. Is such a ban reasonable? Who does it protect? Who does it really profit?

I'm not sure if you were talking about AK-47s specifically, or all high-powered assault rifles, or guns in general. I can sort of see that the average citizen has little use for an AK-47, but I could be wrong here.


You're going to find that no matter where you go, what country you live in. There is no such thing as a truly "free" society, because there's no way to have absolute freedom and actually still have a society.


Doesn't mean this is right.

You were quite right to mention anarchy. Denying people the right to self-defense is not even anarchy, but barbarism. Do you expect 4'11" 80-pound Granny to be able to defend herself from some roid-addled 7'8" 350-pound cowardly toughguy (or worse a gang of such) with her bare hands, or a can of mace, or a butter knife?

There's a reason why Sam Colt called his invention "the human equalizer". I for one don't want to go back to the Middle Ages where an elite warrior caste of well-fed, well-exercised, well-armed-and-armoured knights and nobles held the power of life and death, with their swords, over the starving peasants. Nor do I want to go back to Junior High years where musclebound athletic thugs with their fists didn't have quite the same power.

But some reactionary people, who paradoxically call themselves "liberals" and "progressives", want to.



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