I lost everything in Katrina and guess what...I didn't live in New Orleans!!!!, page 1


Pages: <<  1    2  >>
ATS Members have flagged this thread 10 times
Topic started on 3-4-2008 @ 12:35 PM by _Johnny_Utah_
The pictures at the bottom of this link are more telling...

www.gulf-coast.com...

I am Johnny Utah, yes, but I used to live on the Mississippi Gulf Coast…until Hurricane Katrina.
If you were to look at the news coverage, you would think New Orleans was the only place hit by Katrina. Nothing could be further from the truth and I have had enough of it. Two years of yammering on about poor New Orleans, well, I am about to explode.
Here is the thing. New Orleans only got a glancing blow from Katrina. The storm made landfall in Mississippi...my home.
The coast of MS was decimated. You have not seen destruction, you have not seen pain, you have not seen or understood what loss is…until you look at the MS Coast.
When the storm went ashore, it raised the sea level 20-30 feet. So, the day before, where you could be picking up seashells and feeding the seagulls, you would now be 25 feet under water! New Orleans did not face this! The waves rolled in as far as 6 miles in some places and it lasted for hours. HOURS!!!!
The Coast was dotted with casinos at the time of Katrina (some are back, some gave up). The laws of the state at the time, required all casinos to be on the water. So, they created these massive barges and attached them to hotels and resorts. It was the Atlantic City of the South. The power of the waves lifted some of these casinos and dropped them on top of the hotels. These were barges weighing hundreds of thousands of tons and it placed them ON TOP of HOTELS!!!! The waves cracked the road in half. They crumbled bridges. They erased buildings. They instantly changed, what was once a thriving and ever growing area, into a barren landscape of shredded buildings and homes. It looked like a nuclear bomb went off.
What happened to New Orleans was terrible, yes. But what happened to Mississippi was far worse. It is a moral crime to only look at New Orleans.

I have pictures, but I am not sure how to post them...maybe I will figure it out.


reply posted on 3-4-2008 @ 01:58 PM by TheRedneck
You have my sympathy, Johnny.

To corroborate, I drove through the MS coast a few weeks after Katrina (the roads were closed to through traffic until then). What I saw broke my heart.

To either side of I-10, the shoulders were piled as high as my truck cab with what I first took to be just garbage. then I looked closer. I saw sections of roof, refrigerators, washers, dryers, all manner of appliances and furniture, mixed in with the garbage that I suppose was once personal libraries, photo albums, important records, memoirs, etc. This was not small piles here and yonder, it was a continuous row that lasted for miles upon miles, almost the entire width of the state.

I saw pipes supporting billboards, 60" pipes, twisted and broken like they were made of cardboard. I saw giant concrete phone poles flattened without breaking, their buried sections now sitting atop huge gashes in the earth. I saw buildings partially missing... not damaged, but missing. I saw cars and trucks strewn across the landscape willy-nilly, as though some giant child had thrown a temper tantrum while playing with a fleet of Hot Wheels miniatures.

New Orleans got the attention because they were stupid enough to spend millions in grants specified to rebuild levees for fiber-optic cables to help their casinos. New Orleans was filled with people who stood around helplessly and wailed for help, not willing to help themselves. New Orleans blamed everyone around them, and spent their valuable time using the disaster as an excuse to loot, pillage, and destroy what was left of their city.

Mississippi took stock of the damage, and rolled up their sleeves to begin the arduous task of rebuilding. They asked for nothing; they did not loot and pillage. They rebuilt, together. Several weeks later, on another trip through, I saw billboards proclaiming "We will be back!" where once there was a twisted specter of a destroyed casino sign. As I passed New Orleans, I saw people begging for handouts and police sirens wailing.

On that first pass through, I stopped at the Flying J near Biloxi. The parking lot had been roughly shoveled clear, and it was full of utility and construction trucks, rather than the usual crop of semis. I went inside and had the buffet in the restaurant. As I ate, I couldn't help but notice the holes in the ceiling, roughly patched over until a repair could be made. A sign said "Sorry, buffet only" due to the equipment in the kitchen being mostly out of order. But the food was good, and the people smiled a lot. I asked one waitress how she was handling it. She shrugged and responded "We just have to rebuild" with a tear in her eyes.

I left her a $20 tip for a $10 meal. I still felt like I should do more, but I didn't know what to do.

I for one will never forget that trip, Johnny. The MSM can scream about New Orleans all they want. Your home is not forgotten. God bless Mississippi.

TheRedneck


reply posted on 3-4-2008 @ 02:05 PM by niteboy82
First off Johnny, let me begin this by telling you that I am extremely sorry for your loss. Losing everything that you had is so painful, and the memories can hurt for so long that it's completely surreal. I have been back on the coast a few times to help people recover what they could (one house on the bay, one in Biloxi.) Devastated is not even the correct term to describe the situation that was there, I don't think there are words to describe it.

From myself to you, in a manner only those of us who went through something like this can ever understand, I'm sorry.

Originally posted by _Johnny_Utah_
As politically incorrect as this may be...New Orleans is a slum...


That is simply not true, there are very bad areas, but you will find that in any major city in the country. The whole of the city is actually very nice. Algiers Point, Lower Garden District, Mid City, Carrollton, Uptown, French Quarter, Esplanade Ridge, Marigny/Bywater, CBD, areas of Lakeview, English Turn.

For little or no homes under $300,000, I would hardly consider that a slum.

I think much of the reason why New Orleans is in the news more is because many of the people in New Orleans are still living off FEMA.


I would like to see where you are getting those statistics from, for neither myself or anyone that I know is still receiving any sort of funding from FEMA, Red Cross, and only two people that I know have yet to get their Road Home money. The reason that we are on the news all the time is we have an idiot mayor who speaks without thinking and makes some of the dumbest statements, and because while on the Gulf Coast the water was indeed much higher with the tidal surge, New Orleans as it is bowl shaped was submerged for quite a longer period of time, in which a much higher density of people were removed from their homes and left hungry on city streets. Whether or not you see those people as being wrong for staying behind is truly not an issue here. The issue is that that sold to the media much more, and it is not the fault of New Orleans that it is the case.

The MS Gulf Coast has moved on as best they can and have chosen to do what they can...themselves...to rebuild and NOT wait with their hands out begging and complaining about what is or isn't being done.


Would you care to compare federal funding on MS vs LA?

---

As said at the beginning, I am sorry for your loss, and I am not trying to say that New Orleans had it better or worse, I find such arguments to be wasteful at best. I would never turn something so terrible around to use it as a spear to jab already unhealed wounds.

Wish you the best in your areas recovery, last I checked things are going very well in that regard, and I see more and more people are moving back into their homes. That's something we should both be proud of.


reply posted on 3-4-2008 @ 02:08 PM by _Johnny_Utah_
reply to post by shadow watcher


Thank you for your concern. I hope you don't think the reason I posted this was to have people feel sorry for me, though.
In all honesty, the financial aide came very quickly at first. I was in Utah when I got it and the people at FEMA were very very kind when listening to my story.

There is a standard rule for people who live in Hurricane areas (maybe other places too) that you should have a 72 hr supply of food and water. This is because, on a worst case scenario it may take three days for help to get there.
That was about what it was.
The weeks and months after were much harder. I came out to UTah a couple days before the storm and since I had nothing to go back to, I stayed here. Many of my friends, however, weren't so lucky. The money was nice, but when everything is gone, money is useless. As of 8 months ago, some of my friends were still in tents and the Coast is covered with FEMA trailers. They are about the size of a boxcar.
State Farm is the one who screwed people over. They bailed out of MS and gave only partial settlements. They offer $40,000 for $200,000 homes. The adjusters for State Farm should be put in prison.


reply posted on 3-4-2008 @ 05:02 PM by _Johnny_Utah_
reply to post by jerico65


Treasure Bay is the casino...i was a Beverage Manager there a year before the storm. It was gutted.
The President Casino was moved 3 blocks down the road and set on top of a Holiday Inn. Boomtown casino broke in half.
It was a sight to see.


reply posted on 3-4-2008 @ 05:52 PM by _Johnny_Utah_
reply to post by niteboy82


I know how dear New Orleans is held to the people who live/lived there. I understand that. There is nothing wrong with it.
However, it is not a nice city like it is made out to be. It is filthy, and when I say filth...I mean in every way people can imagine. I read in either the Sun Herald or the Times Picayune, there were 3 killings a day at one point. That makes it more dangerous to be a citizen of New Orleans than an American soldier in Iraq....that says quite a bit.
The French Quarter is not a nice area...it is filled with bars and strip clubs.
The area around the Superdome is not a pleasant place to be...the CBD...harrah's is on the boarder between the good areas and bad, but the thing is, the bad areas of New Orleans, they are VERY bad. The 9th ward is /was disgusting.
The drive to Tulane is gorgeous, and the campus is amazing...but even on the way there, there is urban blight.
I am not saying all of it is the people's fault, however it is some is.
Nagin is nothing more than an absentee landlord and many of the problems facing the people of N.O. have been compounded by him.
The amount of money that has gone to MS, has to do with the total amount of destruction which hit the ENTIRE coast.
Over 100,000 telephone poles had to be replaced in Harrison County alone.
Both areas have been hurt by the storm and in the aftermath.
My main point is that MS has been forgotten or overlooked.
Pages: <<  1    2  >>    ^^TOP^^



Southern California 53+ Earthquakes in the last 2 hours
  Posted 15 days ago with 7 member flags
Why 2013 will be a year of crisis
  Posted 8 days ago with 4 member flags
HAARP intensifying ISAAC?
  Posted 15 days ago with 2 member flags
Zombie Apocalypse
  Posted 5 days ago with 0 member flags