Originally posted by MorningtonCrescent
Originally posted by SimpleTruth
Homosexuality is a sin (which means to fall short or miss the mark) to God because it is a distortion of what God intended.
whoa. hold up the Jesus parade, captain. what makes you think that we believe in the same god? if this is entirely an issue of what you think God
thinks, then it's a religious issue. so if it's a religious issue, by passing this law, the government starts making laws that favor the views of a
particular religion. which just won't fly...unless, the government wants to make allowances for the beliefs of all religions. so unless the
law can be written so that the beliefs of every religion represented in the United States are respected, it shouldn't stand.
unless, of course, your justification for your stance isn't purely religious. in which case, give it another try.
what parade? in my first point, all i'm saying is that a church should be able to still refuse to marry a gay couple if it holds beliefs against it.
many marriages, probably the majority, are done through a church or with a pastor. i just wanna be sure that the government doesn't legalize gay
marriage, and then enforce it so that churches must marry them. it would have to be purely secular, which then wouldn't conflict with separation of
church and state, and then i couldn't complain about that fact. i would still view it as wrong however, but at least the church wouldn't be
the rest of my points were describing why people such as i disagree with same-sex marriage, because i'm not sure a lot of people understand our view.
we are just called biggots or intolerant. and i'm tired of being called a biggot. like i said, there are some who really are hateful, but you must
separate them out. if you really read my previous post and understand it, you would see that i'm not. read it again if you have to or point out
things that you don't understand about it and i'll clarify.
but here are some non-religious arguments against gay marriage as well.
first of all, it's a given that some gay marriage will yield more families of gay parents bringing up children. having two parents of the same sex
will be negative for the child. why? because children need an influence from a mother and father while growing up. statistics show that children
who lack either a mother or father are more prone to problems in school, jobs as they are older, and life and society in general.
also, a child, growing up with two moms or dads is gonna grow up being confused. chances are, the child will be heterosexual, so how will their
parents impact the child? the child will probably be unstable sexually which will affect their psyche overall. and worshipthemoon, yes, our marriage
and family system is royally messed up already, but your logic isn't gonna help. the "let's just make it worse or just give up or ignore it"
mentality is really a copout.
and about believing in the same god or not. does the fact that you don't believe in God, therefore make him non-existant? will his ways not apply
to you, or will he ignore you because you simply don't believe in him? that's like saying that, "whoa, you believe the earth is round? well, i
don't believe what you do. i think it's flat." well that statement is nice, but if someone says that, it doesn't have any affect on the fact
that the earth is indeed round. and they can keep on believing it's flat, but day in and day out, they are experiencing the affects of the globe
shape and the rotation and all despite what they think or believe. well, the shape of the earth is physical scientific truth. and just as there are
truths in science, and math, there are moral truths. just because you don't believe in God as i do, changes nothing. His truths and commandments
and wishes are still there whether you want to believe them or not.