Absolute Ad Reshapes US/Mexico Map & Borders, page 7
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reply posted on 7-4-2008 @ 08:19 AM by Damocles
reply to post by jedimiller


Right. In war, people get shot and killed. Had they felt like NOT giving into the demands of the treaty, they could have said no, been killed, and others would take their place to continue the war.

BUT, they didnt. They chose to sign the treaty, save their own lives and as a result give up claim to the land north of the current border.

the circumstances of the treaty being signed does nothing to change the fact that it was signed. SO who should modern day mexicans be pissed at? The US for winning or their own leaders from over 100 years ago for losing?

i mean what would modern globes look like if we as a world got together and said "ok, any land any country has gained in the last 200 years goes back to whoever had it 200 years ago"

kind of silly dont you think?



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reply posted on 7-4-2008 @ 07:23 PM by West Coast
Originally posted by jedimiller
I live at the border between san diego and tijuana. lets be realistic guys. The US stole california from Mexico, Texas and the Southwest etc. We threatened them and forced them to sign that treaty. it was an unfair transaction. think of someone selling you a lemon car and forcing you to sign the contract. realistically, the southwest still belongs to Mexico. technically it belongs to the US, but like everything else the US did during those times..was illegal.


Well then, in those same regards, Great Britain lays claim to US states, as does France, and Russia.

What has happened in the past, was what has been happening since the beginning of time. Tribes have taken land, and have done so in brutal fashion, conquering all in their wake. Accept the US did not steal any land from anyone, the US paid Mexico, which saw its indigenous people conquered by the Spaniards who had alot to do with conquering todays west coast. So yes, historically that map could be looked at as historical fact. However, it is hardly relevant in todays world, and most certainly is not fact in the year 2008.

It is my belief, that there is a "dream," a reconquer movement within the indigenous peoples of Mexico. However, that is all it is, is a dream. Mexico has its fair share of white Spaniards today, and many of them look down onto the dark skinned citizens who are forced to move northward to look for jobs. In Mexico, certain company's will not hire indigenous peoples just as some company's in the US have a hard time hiring blacks. There is a huge racial divide/problem going on in Mexico today. The mexican government would rather dump them off on the US, then have to deal with them themselves.


reply posted on 8-4-2008 @ 06:50 AM by xxpigxx
reply to post by Black Flag



And yet no one is rioting and threatening violence



reply posted on 8-4-2008 @ 01:39 PM by battlestargalactica
reply to post by Ruggeder

They didn't exactly 'pull' the ad, the ad was ended due to the campaign naturally ending. The apology wasn't exactly very convincing either, so they most likely lost thousands of loyal American customers, including restaurants and taverns across the US.

See the THOUSANDS of angry people give it to the company in the official website for Absolut. You can leave a comment yourselves..

www.absolut.com...

Their lame apology:

The In An Absolut World advertising campaign invites consumers to visualize a world that appeals to them -- one they feel may be more idealized or one that may be a bit "fantastic." As such, the campaign will elicit varying opinions and points of view. We have a variety of executions running in countries worldwide, and each is germane to that country and that population.

This particular ad, which ran in Mexico, was based upon historical perspectives and was created with a Mexican sensibility. In no way was this meant to offend or disparage, nor does it advocate an altering of borders, nor does it lend support to any anti-American sentiment, nor does it reflect immigration issues. Instead, it hearkens to a time which the population of Mexico may feel was more ideal.

As a global company, we recognize that people in different parts of the world may lend different perspectives or interpret our ads in a different way than was intended in that market. Obviously, this ad was run in Mexico, and not the US -- that ad might have been very different.




[edit on 8-4-2008 by battlestargalactica]


reply posted on 9-4-2008 @ 05:54 AM by Essan
reply to post by Ruggeder


No, the equivalent for England would be an advert aimed at the French or Spanish Market showing England as being part of France or Spain


reply posted on 30-4-2008 @ 03:46 PM by battlestargalactica
reply to post by TKainZero

Thats good news for me. Thanks for the update, I never liked absolute anyway, always kind of second rate, but the 'popular' brand for some people, well not any more
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