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2.3 trillion dollars missing from the Pentagon budget!

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posted on Apr, 2 2008 @ 08:35 PM
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Does anyone remember this? Anyone care to speculate on what 2.3 trillion dollars could be utilized for. Anyone care that this announcement was made the day before the worst Terrorist attack this country has ever seen since Pearl Harbor.

This subject would have been non-stop every night for a good long while if something "Catastrophic" had not happened the very next day and it was summarily shoved under the rug and forgotten.




posted on Apr, 2 2008 @ 08:55 PM
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Originally posted by KMFNWO


Does anyone remember this? Anyone care to speculate on what 2.3 trillion dollars could be utilized for. Anyone care that this announcement was made the day before the worst Terrorist attack this country has ever seen since Pearl Harbor.

This subject would have been non-stop every night for a good long while if something "Catastrophic" had not happened the very next day and it was summarily shoved under the rug and forgotten.


Interesting yes.

Does anyone remember this? Probably not.

But you would not remember the other times it was brought up either. You see that wasn't the only time or even the first time??


n fiscal 1999, a defense audit found that about $2.3 trillion of balances, transactions and adjustments were inadequately documented. These "unsupported" transactions do not mean the department ultimately cannot account for them, she advised, but that tracking down needed documents would take a long time. Auditors, she said, might have to go to different computer systems, to different locations or access different databases to get information.

www.defenselink.mil...

And:


But, speaking of deficits and surpluses, Walker again has raised the issue of the apparent inability of federal agencies properly and accurately to account for funds entrusted to them by taxpayers. For example, the Department of Defense (DoD), which has in the last two years received tens of billions of additional funds to fight wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, has been on the high-risk list since the list's inception. According to Walker, "DoD's financial-management deficiencies represent the single largest obstacle to achieving an unqualified opinion on the U.S. government's consolidated financial statements. To date, none of the military services or major DoD components have passed the test of an independent financial audit." In other words, because of DoD's inability properly to account for its funds, the entire federal ledger cannot be balanced. Among the DoD's financial-management "deficiencies" is the agency's inability to account for $1.1 trillion. Insight pointed out in April of last year that, according to Assistant Inspector General for DoD Auditing David Steensma, "we reported that DoD processed $1.1 trillion in unsupported accounting entries to DoD component financial data used to prepare departmental reports and DoD financial statements for [fiscal year] 2000" [see "Government Fails Fiscal-Fitness Test," May 20, 2002. That is, when the Clinton administration turned over the Pentagon to the Bush team some $1.1 trillion was missing or unaccounted for.

findarticles.com...

And there's another important point you're not being told. The language used in these claims, that Rumsfeld made an "admission" to or "announced" the missing $2.3 trillion on 9/10, along with the claim that the story disappeared as a result of the attacks, is designed to make you think that this information was only made public knowledge on September 10th. This is far from accurate. The report that uncovered the trillions appeared at the end of February 2000, before Bush had even been elected, and Rumsfeld and others had spoken about this before, on more than one occasion, and for months before the attacks:


Pentagon's finances in disarray

By JOHN M. DONNELLY The Associated Press 03/03/00 5:44 PM Eastern

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The military's money managers last year made almost $7 trillion in adjustments to their financial ledgers in an attempt to make them add up, the Pentagon's inspector general said in a report released Friday.

The Pentagon could not show receipts for $2.3 trillion of those changes, and half a trillion dollars of it was just corrections of mistakes made in earlier adjustments.
Each adjustment represents a Defense Department accountant's attempt to correct a discrepancy. The military has hundreds of computer systems to run accounts as diverse as health care, payroll and inventory. But they are not integrated, don't produce numbers up to accounting standards and fail to keep running totals of what's coming in and what's going out, Pentagon and congressional officials said.

hv.greenspun.com...


August 18, 2000

The DFAS centers processed approximately $7.6 trillion in department-level accounting entries to DoD Component financial data used to prepare departmental reports and DoD financial statements for FY 1999. Of the $7.6 trillion in department level accounting entries, $3.5 trillion were supported with proper research, reconciliation, and audit trails. However, department-level accounting entries of $2.3 trillion were made to force financial data to agree with various sources of financial data without adequate research and reconciliation, were made to force buyer and seller data to agree in preparation for eliminating entries, did not contain adequate documentation and audit trails, or did not follow accounting principles. We identified but did not have adequate time or staff to review another $1.8 trillion in department level accounting entries. The DoD Agency-Wide financial statements for FY 1999 were subject to a high risk of material misstatement. The sheer magnitude of department-level accounting entries required to compile the DoD financial statements
for FY 1999 highlights the difficulties and problems that DoD encountered in attempting to produce accurate and reliable financial information using existing systems and processes. The largest number of department-level accounting entries were made for the Navy General Fund because DFAS Cleveland Center processed both monthly and year-end department-level accounting entries for the Navy General Fund. For details of the audit results, see the Finding section of the report. See Appendix A for details of the management control program as it relates to the processing of department level accounting entries.

Inspector General Department of Defense Audit Report, Department-Level Accounting Entries for FY1999


January 7, 2001

The Defense Department's inspector general recently identified $6.9 trillion in accounting entries, but $2.3 trillion was not supported by adequate audit trails or sufficient evidence to determine its validity.
Another $2 trillion worth of entries were not examined because of time constraints, and therefore, the inspector general was able to audit only $2.6 trillion of accounting entries in a $6.9 trillion pot.

Contra Costa Times (California)

If you like, I could list at least 6 MORE times PRIOR to 9/10/01 that this money was talked about.



[edit on 2-4-2008 by CaptainObvious]



posted on Apr, 2 2008 @ 09:00 PM
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Dont take this the wrong way but :

A - I knew you would be the first to respond to this.

B - You remind me of "Customer service". It's as if you have a manual that has an answer to any question that comes up.

Yes may I help you... You need information on the melting point of steel girders?... Sure, here you go.... Is there anything else I can help you with?
Yesir! that was in fact a 737 engine... Trust me.... Thanks for calling.

I think you just earned respected foe friend - keep up the good work



posted on Apr, 2 2008 @ 09:07 PM
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What I find interesting is the yearly budget for defense is roughly 350 billion.

If the entire budget is 350 billion, how the hell did they lose 2.3 trillion????

Just how much money is the black budget getting????

It's sure got me scratching myself in ways and places that 47 year old men are known the world over for scratching.



posted on Apr, 2 2008 @ 09:11 PM
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Originally posted by mrwupy
What I find interesting is the yearly budget for defense is roughly 350 billion.

If the entire budget is 350 billion, how the hell did they lose 2.3 trillion????

Just how much money is the black budget getting????

It's sure got me scratching myself in ways and places that 47 year old men are known the world over for scratching.


There is of course that too - good catch. just whose bidding are we doing anyway? It makes you wonder. When you print your own money I guess anything is possible. Of course that takes us to taxes and why do they even need them.. To control our incomes of course... ugh, I'm derailing my own post. Back on track, but good catch nonetheless.



posted on Apr, 2 2008 @ 11:02 PM
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i think the money is used for the black budget projects

though i think the proof is in the pudding but the pudding is missing



posted on Apr, 2 2008 @ 11:33 PM
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I, too, think that the $2.3 trillion was ued for lack Projects. Part of it went fo UAV research, no doubt. Especially the newer versions which can carry small GPS guide missiles on them.



posted on Apr, 3 2008 @ 08:27 AM
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Was that last year or earlier?

Is the following for this years figure?

www.defenselink.mil...(5.1_KB).pdf

From www.whatreallyhappened.com... for the above link.
"Check out pages 12 and 69. The DOD is carrying a lot of "unfunded liabilities". In other words, either they are spending far more than Congress has given them, or we have another trillion dollar "disappearance" about to happen..."



posted on Apr, 3 2008 @ 08:51 AM
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reply to post by mrwupy
 


These 2 posts have win all over them.

Sorry for being 12 but hey.. they are funny.

Ya this was discussed but as all things it disappeared a while after, there is no real big thing about it so.. I dunno.. add it to the rest of the crap we uncover and shill try and kill in 30 mins or less.



posted on Apr, 3 2008 @ 09:26 AM
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People mentioned about 9/10 when Rumsfeld mentioned about the 2.3 trillion dollars. Well guess what? Many things were happening on 9/10. But also remember that Rumsfeld mentioned about the Clinton administrations problems with this issue long before 9/11. But people here tend to just say it has to be a conspiracy just cause of what Rumsfeld said on the day before the attacks even though this problem arose during the Clinton administration.



posted on Apr, 3 2008 @ 09:29 AM
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hv.greenspun.com...


By JOHN M. DONNELLY The Associated Press 03/03/00 5:44 PM Eastern

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The military's money managers last year made almost $7 trillion in adjustments to their financial ledgers in an attempt to make them add up, the Pentagon's inspector general said in a report released Friday.

The Pentagon could not show receipts for $2.3 trillion of those changes, and half a trillion dollars of it was just corrections of mistakes made in earlier adjustments.

Each adjustment represents a Defense Department accountant's attempt to correct a discrepancy. The military has hundreds of computer systems to run accounts as diverse as health care, payroll and inventory. But they are not integrated, don't produce numbers up to accounting standards and fail to keep running totals of what's coming in and what's going out, Pentagon and congressional officials said.

"These ($6.9 trillion in) entries were processed to force financial data to agree with various data sources, to correct errors and to add new data," the inspector general said. "The magnitude of accounting entries required to compile the DoD financial statements highlights the significant problems DoD has producing accurate and reliable financial statements with existing systems and processes."


Notice the date.



posted on Aug, 5 2008 @ 06:19 PM
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I don't think the money is missing at all.
At this stage in the game, there is so much secrecy and lack of transparency in our government that it seems more logical to assume that the money in question has been diverted.

Diverted for what?
Any number of nefarious projects, black ops, & top secret programs.

If the average American was'nt so braiwashed we'd know who our real enemies were.



posted on Aug, 5 2008 @ 06:44 PM
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Yes, this issue is one of the crowning achievements of the propaganda machine.
While creating a plethora of plausible rationalities and 'reputable' talking heads they have managed to obfuscate and utterly corrupt the data so as to be, for all intents and purposes, irreconcilable.

The point is, where is the money. No one is asking who did what. Where is it? All you will get is doublespeak and technical probabilities. No one knows, or know one wants to say.



posted on Aug, 5 2008 @ 07:13 PM
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If you look at the Pentagons fiscal budget, 2.3 trillion is years worth of funding. So how could This military complex not notice years worth of income and spendatures going out the holes in the floor!!!!

The money that was missing I heard comes from other sources.....



posted on Aug, 5 2008 @ 08:37 PM
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The U.S. DoD has a larger annual budget than the rest of the world's militaries combined, they can "lose" $2.3 trillion without anyone making a fuss, yet with almost two hours notice, they still can't stop 19 "hijackers" with box cutters from flying commercial jets into buildings.

Does anyone else think there might be something wrong with this picture?



posted on Aug, 5 2008 @ 08:50 PM
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Rummy's Jewish Neocon Bookkeeper swindles 2.3 Trillion from Pentagon.

On Sept. 10, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld declared war. Not on foreign terrorists, "the adversary's closer to home. It's the Pentagon bureaucracy," he said.

He said money wasted by the military poses a serious threat.

"In fact, it could be said it's a matter of life and death," he said.

Rumsfeld promised change but the next day – Sept. 11-- the world changed and in the rush to fund the war on terrorism, the war on waste seems to have been forgotten.



posted on Sep, 16 2008 @ 03:46 PM
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To get to the "bones" at bottom of the Bush-Cheny quagmire, type these titles in the search box: "WHY 9/11: documentary, the missing $2.3 trillion:"

THEN: U.S. Senate Select Committee on Intelligence
(Notice list of members to contact).

"Trance Formation of America, by Cathy Obrien with Mark Phillips."
(Real life truth about Bush, Cheney, Clinton drug running, rape, drunkeness, sodomy, 'opening the boarder' to drugs, sex-slavery, funding Hussein and murders). Available from internet and book stores.

www.tldm.org...



posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 09:38 PM
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My guess/speculation:

As you would imagine... to pull off a stunt like 911
you have a lot of "offers-that-you-can't-refuse" to make
that i'm sure the likes of capone and gatti would have admired

Imagine black ops handing you 2 million dollars to play a part
(1 million up front and 2nd million after)
and if you refused or showed any sign of squealing,
you and/or your family would be found at the bottom of a lake.

point here being... everyone has a price and
when you don't have the witness protection program as an option out...
there is no where to hide... you either choose to live a comfortable life
or die a tragic death and/or your family.

obviously the best option is...
take the money. play your part, provide for your family, shut up and retire early

2 trillion makes room for a whole lotta sweet offers,
even for those bigger fish who require more enticing numbers

as for this news first coming out prior to bush's term
clinton is a key assist/player...
he's the guy who put the wiffle ball on the tee
and then senior handed junior the bat



posted on Sep, 18 2008 @ 12:38 PM
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Maybe...this might be the most realistic situation for most people especially if you have loved ones. You don't know what it feels like to have a loaded gun pointed at your face or a loved one until it happens...all those words most people "talk" before hand get tossed out the window...then the pleading and bargaining start.



posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 02:32 PM
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Originally posted by KMFNWOThis subject would have been non-stop every night for a good long while if something "Catastrophic" had not happened the very next day and it was summarily shoved under the rug and forgotten.



Not necessarily true, the MSM Repeaters have proven to be very good at repeating what they are told to and not mentioning a word of 'off-limit' topics.

I too STILL want to know who ended up walking off with this loot....considering we're over 14T in the hole right now.
edit on 7-8-2011 by Paroxysm because: (no reason given)



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