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Pentagon: Colleges 'Must Hand Over Names'

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posted on Apr, 2 2008 @ 03:18 PM
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Sure. However, if there were to be a Big War and the draft got reinstated, I'm sure the US Department of Justice would really put the heat on Canada to turn over the fugitives. I do not support the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, however, and hope that day never comes.




posted on Apr, 2 2008 @ 03:36 PM
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You mean like Vietnam, because weren't didn't rush to send you sons back to get killed.



posted on Apr, 2 2008 @ 03:38 PM
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Well, Vietnam was different. Nobody believed that America's national survival was at stake there, but if there was a war where it could be implied that America's survival WAS at stake, then I think the DoJ would have a very good case for turning up the heat on the Canucks.



posted on Apr, 2 2008 @ 03:45 PM
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See, the Army is acting like they deserve the same rights as employers and they're playing the sympathy card, while at the same time saying "tough, that's nthe way it's gunna be".... and if the Army was just some regular employer looking to set someone up with a positive career path, I would say awesome, give them the same right.....

but that's not what the Army is at all. It's an all for profit killing game where people are most often forced to fight and die like gladiators based on fake freedom and a lotta patriotic propaganda. If these people do survive, they have years of PTSD to deal with, plus any battle injuries... and in the end, the Army destroys lives and provides direction only to those willing to play it's immoral game.

The fact that war is immoral, and sending our best and brightest off to die for nothing is even more immoral, makes this NOT an issue of whether each group's rights are being protected, but it makes it a morality issue. I mean, they're not gunna let porn dealers and hookers set up booths on their campus. It's the same kinda thing... although I find porn and hookers to be vastly better than killing innocent people in some far off land where we shouldn't be in the first place.



posted on Apr, 2 2008 @ 03:47 PM
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Look, I don't agree with these wars either, but who's supposed to defend the nation? Do you want our armed forces to be 100% people without college degrees?



posted on Apr, 2 2008 @ 03:49 PM
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I highly doubt any such war will ever happen in a nueculear world. I mean even WW2 the US was never in mortal peril at any point. Pearl Harbour was done by the Japanese simply to hurt America and buy them time to consolidate their gains in the Pacific before the US joined the war. The US had made it obvious they were going to join the war, just the American public was agaisnt intervention, so they forced the Japanese into attacking.



posted on Apr, 2 2008 @ 03:50 PM
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I agree that America's survival will never truly be at risk again, but I believe that in the age of terrorism, the case can be SPUN that America would be at risk in a potential war.



posted on Apr, 2 2008 @ 04:06 PM
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Don't worry, most Senators or Representatives know that voting for the Draft in this post-Vietnam generation would mean kissing their chances of getting reelected goodbye. Unless World War III breaks out, I think we're in relatively safe water.



posted on Apr, 2 2008 @ 04:21 PM
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Sorry to disagree, but there is no such thing as Government money, it's Public Money, all raised by taxation from us all,
Regards
Horsegiver.



posted on Apr, 2 2008 @ 04:24 PM
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I already responded to this...back in the thread I mentioned that the government is representative of the people.



posted on Apr, 2 2008 @ 04:34 PM
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Looks like a draft is in the wings.

If I lived in the US I would be opposed to this. As the mother of a son who willingly joined the Australian Army, I can only imagine how some American mums are feeling about this policy.

I hope that it does not come to this...but I see what I see



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posted on Apr, 2 2008 @ 04:42 PM
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ok fair enough if colleges and universities dont want military recruiters on campus thats their choice.

of course...they should expect to say goodbye to all that taxpayer funding they get and students going there should expect the same amount of federal aid they would get if they were going to a private university.

and i still cant believe anyone honestly thinks theres going to be a draft...kinda funny to me really.



posted on Apr, 2 2008 @ 04:55 PM
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Originally posted by Silenceisall
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I personally invite you all up here to Canada if they bring back conscription.


What part of canada? So long as I can get season passes to hockey games, i'm there!!



posted on Apr, 2 2008 @ 05:01 PM
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Originally posted by thought
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I already responded to this...back in the thread I mentioned that the government is representative of the people.


And people have responded to that by informing you that, guess what? the government doesn't represent anyone but themselves and those rich enough to fill their coffers. If, and only if, the government actually had this countries best at heart, then they wouild be representing the people. Further more, this is not a war on terror, this is a war for Bushies oil.

I envy you thought, for I was once a true believer in our government too. Facing the truth is kinda sad.



posted on Apr, 2 2008 @ 05:09 PM
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Hockey in Canada is thankfully quite ubiquitous.



posted on Apr, 2 2008 @ 05:17 PM
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Originally posted by Tenebrous
The US had made it obvious they were going to join the war, just the American public was agaisnt intervention, so they forced the Japanese into attacking.


So, Pearl Harbor was the fault of the US? That's new.

Here's a simple solution: When the military calls a student about enlisting, just do what Nancy Reagan says and "just say no." No hard feelings, no big deal.



posted on Apr, 2 2008 @ 05:26 PM
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Geez. Talk about people getting a little crazy. I beleive the military, secret service, fbi, nsa, cia all deserve the same rights to attract employees as do IBM, Microsoft, etc. If anything they should get first shot or like someone else sadi we end up with all the dummies in the military.



posted on Apr, 2 2008 @ 05:38 PM
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If I ran a college or University I would make it my purpose to be anti-ROTC, anti-recruitment, anti-war and sell that to incoming students and their parents. I'm guessing there are plenty NGO's that would contribute to such a university. Giving them any information is quite unnecessary after all our military is "volunteer" but really haven't they all ready got all the information they need from the students high schools?



posted on Apr, 2 2008 @ 05:43 PM
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Given what's written in the article,the army does have a point.It's being discriminated against.
Having said that,I would hope that Colleges and Universities can find a way around this.
Shopping for fodder in an illegal war should be outlawed.
I'll also offer a welcome to any Americans wishing to come to Canada.We may have extradition laws with the U.S.,but it's how you present your case.
I'm sure a smart lawyer could find a way for Americans to stay here en masse.
Alberta in particular has plenty of jobs open for a variety of occupations.



posted on Apr, 2 2008 @ 05:44 PM
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and if you could run your college/university without government money you have every right to do so.

but, if you took any government money then you have to allow the government the same access to your student info that you would offer any other company that would send recruiters to your school.

like someone else said, a recruiter contacts you, if youre not interested...say no. fair 'nuff



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