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reply posted on 20-1-2010 @ 02:35 PM by FiatLux
You know, this reminds me of kids who have psychic abilities. I have watched that show on A&E about psychic kids, and at times it brings a tear to my eye on how they were treated by their friends and even the psycologist that tried to treat them. They are treated as though they are mentally ill, and given drugs. And I have to tell you, if it were my kid, the psycologist would be made to take the drug also.

These kids are born aware, and nothing more. They are treated as outcasts and fools. I even had one of my best friends watch it one evening at my place, and he started in about how the kid has mental problems and should be treated for it. I point blank told him, that it wasn`t the kid who needed treatment, it was people like him that needed it for being so narrow minded and blind about all of this.

These kids are human, and have brought into this life something we all have, only many have not tapped into it yet. Some are even treated like they are possessed by demons, and this sickens me. Society is so all damn sure it knows it all, and believe me, it doesn`t, not by a damn site. Our society thinks that drugs are the answer for everything. We now need drugs for everything......and we wonder why our immune systems are shot to the point that we need to take more drugs just to cure a simple headache.

Instead of treating these kids as outcasts, they need to be taught how to build upon what they do have, and to use it for good.

Sorry if it looks like I was ranting, but this is something that needs to be addressed, and not overlooked.


reply posted on 22-1-2010 @ 09:20 AM by TheIrvy
Autism is only a "disorder" because that is what non-autistic doctors have decided it is. Being left handed was once seen as a disorder (and the word sinister means "of the left"), and we learnt and grew and now we know that it isn't.

I've said this before on this board: If you take any child from an early age, and repeatedly tell them there's something wrong with them, they won't disappoint you.

I do believe that what we refer to as autistic people have a major role to play in society's present and future. This is a conspiracy site, so I'll even go as far as to ask that if we do believe that governments and health officials lie and deceive to keep themselves in power and authority, then why is it such a stretch to suggest that there are conspiritorial reasons why we're told that autism is a disease/disorder?

I was reading through the Terra Files from a link in another thread, they're supposed to be the story of humanity as told to a group of Native Americans, by an extraterrestrial who had crashed on earth and been nursed back to health by humans. In the story there were 2 groups, the Adama, who were taken and given excessive passions and emotions, and it's their story that gets condensed down to Adam's in the Bible, and then there's the Adapa, the original humans, without the same tampering, with a higher level of analytical reasoning.

It sounds to me that the dynamic of humanity's duality between emotive, passionate, driven Adama, and the analytical, reasoned, surgically focussed Adapa has always been there, and we now call those who are predominantly Adama "normal" and those who are predominantly Adapa "have a disorder". In reality we're 2 halves of the same whole, ying and yang, and our species is suffering because of our pride and need to be "normal".

I am what they call autistic, and I worked for many years in care, working mainly with "my own kind", and I can assure you, everything the non-autistic medical profession believe about autism is absolutely wrong. Time and again, I saw them unable to tell the difference, or see that there is a difference between not speaking and not being able to speak, between not responding and not being able to respond.

How much would you trust a book about what it's like to be a woman if it was written by a monk who'd only met the odd woman, and most of them were nuns? Would you expect it to be an authoritive piece? Or would it be an outsider's view, based on observation without experience?

Are you seeing now why you cannot understand autism unless you're autistic?

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reply posted on 22-1-2010 @ 11:13 AM by TheIrvy
reply to post by prophecywatcher



There is a lot of misunderstanding about autism and what an autistic person's behaviour should be interpreted as.

Different does not mean disabled. Being forced to do things in an unnatural manner is unpleasant and frustrating. Being forced to accept that "this way" is the right way even when it's quite clearly wrong causes a lot of distress to young autistic people, and that's perceived by others who cannot see things the same way as them as "bad behaviour" or "feeling sick" or worse.

Is it clear that your son doesn't want to be that way, or is he just reacting to things that are going on that don't annoy you? I'm very lucky, I grew up in a family where we were all on the autistic spectrum, but we didn't call it that, we called it "normal". This simple thing, deciding that we were normal, had immense power. Things were much easier for me growing up in my home than they would have been if I'd been forced to grow up in a so called normal family. A "normal" family wouldn't have known that bright lights and loud noises cause searing physical pain. In my house, we didn't turn all the lights on when we woke up in the dark mornings, we all had little torches to walk around the house safely that we kept in our dressing gowns. Simple solution to a major problem.

I wouldn't want to change places with a "normal" person. You all live lives full of deceipt and dishonesty, you never say what you really mean or ask for what you really want. I'm sick of people saying how normal normal people are. You're no less messed up than me, you're just messed up in a different way. Your way of life is as shocking and unpleasant to me as mine is to you, or in your case, your way of doing things is causing your son as much disgust and pain as his reaction to it is causing to you.


reply posted on 22-1-2010 @ 11:26 AM by unityemissions
Autism isn't a disease because it doesn't kill you?! hmm.....

Disease: any deviation from or interruption of the normal structure or function of any body part, organ, or system that is manifested by a characteristic set of symptoms and signs and whose etiology, pathology, and prognosis may be known or unknown.
Definition

Autism is a multifactorial diseased state. I know, am thought to have it slightly (aspergers). People who say that they are not damaged are just in denial. Left brain damage manifests in nearly all autistic cases. The reason "telepathic" abilities show up is because the right-brain tends to overcompensate for the brain damage. The right brain has a deep connection to the subconscious. About 10% of autistics show some sort of savant skill.

This has nothing to do with 2012, and everything to do with the increased toxins, and pathogens in our ecosystem plus the increase in vaccinations. Autistics usually have some sort of predisposition where they are unable to properly detox heavy metals. Not only this, they are usually infected with more than one mycoplasma. Essentially, autism is like most any other diseases. The body becomes over burdened with various stressors, and the capability for homeostasis is beyond what the system can perform.

I have no doubt if civilization continues on at it's current pace, more than half of newborns will be diagnosed with autism by 2050. Did you know that stored heavy metals in the mother can be passed onto newborns? Multigenerational transference's...


reply posted on 22-1-2010 @ 12:03 PM by unityemissions
reply to post by TheIrvy



Are you speaking to me? It would be nice to see a "reply to" so that I understand who the statement is aimed towards, but for the moment I'll presume.


Yes, that is what the medical profession say, but many many autistic people and autistic professionals say differently. How much is caused by the medicines handed our by the big Pharma companies?


Well many people have emotionally invested interests to think that Autism isn't a disease. That's their folly. I said that vaccinations are part of the autism picture. Pretty sure that's handled by BigPharma. Autism isn't usually treated with pharmaceuticals, is it? That's more add, adhd, depression, I thought. Are there any known instances where a neurotypical takes pharmaceuticals and afterwords is diagnosed with autism? I've not heard of one.


You can't chop and change your conspiracies. If you're going to go down the path of accepting conspiracies about Big Pharma and the medical professions and their role in the Swine Flu "pandemic" and in all the pharma conspiracies I've read here, you can't then suddenly decide that in regards to autism, that's all different, and when dealing with autism, those same evil poisoning corporations are absolutely honest and above board.


Can't I? I'm an individual who's thoughts, opinions, beliefs, ideas, morals, and even personality changes on a daily basis. I may have a certain belief one month, then after more data is provided and analyzed, come to a different conclusion and belief. That's called growth!

BigPharma is definitely a huge problem in our society, and it kills thousands yearly. I agree here, but don't see the connection to autism. Perhaps you could enlighten me? You are using many logical fallacies in your above statement. Just because BigPharma is corrupt, doesn't mean all diseases stem from their deeds. This basically shows that you yourself have an evil which has not been addressed. You have disowned this evil and choose to project it onto the BigPharma demon! Yes, they're corrupt to the core, but that doesn't mean corruption, disease, evil doesn't exist outside of these corporations. It exists within each one of us.


Many many autistic people believe that we've been lied to regarding the true nature of autism.


I agree. That's why I posted. It's not as easy as one cause, and definitely not all BigPharma's doing. You have to look at the MANY things which have changed in the last 30 or so years. STD's have risen. Electromagnetic pollution has jumped through the roof. Stealth viruses, mycoplasma, prions, and nanotech has been introduced into the population through laboratories. Junk food diets are the norm. Factories are spewing out tons and tons of toxic heavy metals. Our topsoils are depleted, leaving necessary nutrients out of the foods we consume....and on and on....

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reply posted on 22-1-2010 @ 12:10 PM by Annee
First off - Autism and ADHD - - is an "umbrella" label for ALL symptoms that fall into a certain category.

There is no ONE Autism or ONE ADHD.

My daughter was diagnosed with ADD way back in 1968 - - before it became "popular". She went through months of testing and psychological testing when she was 6. She had zero attention on a One to One which required physical contact (hand squeezing) and rewards to learn the basics in formal education. I was very fortunate that a new experimental program was tested in her school and she was chosen to participate. I also used diet and patterning exercise (swim team).

Today - any kid that doesn't sit still is diagnosed as ADHD and put on drugs. The school tried to put her son (grandson) on drugs. Fortunately - having gone through ADD - - I knew he was not ADD - - he was just very active/hyper - like Tigger. This kid was reading at a 12th grade level in first grade. Can't even imagine what drugs might have done to him.

TODAY - my 2 year old grandson has been diagnosed as having symptoms of Autistic behavior. Why? Because he is "in his head" - doesn't talk - and doesn't engage in eye contact.

Excuse Me! That he is not a performing puppet. No Offense to anyone.

I have raised him from birth (his dad died of Leukemia when he was less then a month old). BY CHOICE - I let him "just be" for 2 years. If there would be any time in his life he could connect with his dad - - it would be these early years. He needed that more then he needed to talk.

When I was young - - I was still connected to the "spirit world". I was BORN AWARE. I did have a great deal of trouble adjusting to this world - - but I did it - - on my own.

So - do I think there is REAL Autism? YES! I think there are many reasons for this behavior - - - some definitely from physical damage/dysfunction to the brain.

I would never attach any "considered dysfunction" to a specific date or the end of the world.

However - - I do believe some humans are evolving away from the physical into a more spiritual vibration.

ANSWER: ONE DOES NOT FIT ALL


reply posted on 15-7-2012 @ 08:06 AM by jjjwalker
reply to post by Xaphan



Changing perceptions: The power of autism


Most grant proposals, research papers and reviews on autism open with, “Autism is a devastating disorder”. Mine do not.

I am a researcher, clinician and lab director concentrating on the cognitive neuroscience of autism. Eight autistic people have been associated with my group: four research assistants, three students and one researcher.

Their roles have not been limited to sharing their life experiences or performing mindless data entry. They are there because of their intellectual and personal qualities. I believe that they contribute to science because of their autism, not in spite of it.

Everyone knows stories of autistics with extraordinary savant abilities, such as Stephen Wiltshire, who can draw exquisitely detailed urban landscapes from memory after a helicopter tour. None of my lab members is a savant. They are 'ordinary' autistics, who as a group, on average, often outperform non-autistics in a range of tasks, including measures of intelligence.


The above is from a recent opinion piece published in nature by an autism researcher.
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