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Big Oil before congress: If you take away our 18bn tax breaks, gas prices will go up.

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posted on Apr, 2 2008 @ 06:31 PM
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Actually, it is the govt singlehandedly destroying the economy.




posted on Apr, 2 2008 @ 07:11 PM
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Originally posted by jfj123
reply to post by Karlhungis
 


Say it with me
REGULATION

The oil industry is almost single handedly destroying the american economy and they should not be allowed to wield that kind of power.

Someone needs to step in and reign them in before this recession turns into a depression.


For once, we agree on something.



posted on Apr, 2 2008 @ 07:14 PM
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Those oil companies (a.k.a. Globalists) are greedy, and they're willing to kill their customers, steal from their customers, and enslave their customers just to get "tax-breaks" and more control.

We don't trust them & We don't need them.



posted on Apr, 2 2008 @ 07:15 PM
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I read this entire thread, and laughed.

Big Oil gets .08 cents on the Dollar Not the Gallon. (13.20$ per barrel sold)

OPEC, BP, or any other crude oil sellers are getting 80$+ PROFIT per barrel. (and then it funnels to Islamic extremists) (how many Saudi's where on the planes?) so every time you fill up your tank you buy an I.E.D. (can we Tax Saudi Arabia and Israel?)


Look at the larger picture....................



posted on Apr, 2 2008 @ 07:17 PM
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The price gouging will not end until we prove that we can live without it. Until then, their grip over our finances will only tighten.


apc

posted on Apr, 2 2008 @ 07:34 PM
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The margin for the few oil companies I've looked up has bounced between 5 and 10% over the past decade. Their "record profits" are actually pretty sad when adjusted down for inflation. These numbers should absolutely make people furious. But not because of price gouging. Inflation.



posted on Apr, 2 2008 @ 07:34 PM
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I think this has more to do with China than the U.S., China's growth is closely tied to ours, we consume the most.


Slow down the USA, stop growth in China.

then Let Islam spread (the horror, Islamic China)

The worst problem the USA has is no patience, and no short term memory.



posted on Apr, 2 2008 @ 07:34 PM
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I dont want the il companies to pay more taxes. I want the oil companies to become a National Asset that is completely run by the people.

The governmen is the people. The postman, your firefighters, policeman, jailhouse clerk they are the government. The business owner who pays taxes, the consumer who pays taxes, they are the government. WE ARE the government, are we just afraid of controlling the system ourselves, is that why some are afraid of nationalizing strategic and improtant resources.

Frankly nationalizing the oil industry would be a blessing to the people. Last I checked, Communist China is beginning to surpass us in renewable energy projects, infrastructure upgrades, and even advanced transportation (extensive maglev train system). Venezuela has increased their literacy to 100% in the country since these demonic socialist policies were enacted.

Most people in Europe and Canada never have to worry about permanent ailments and treatable diseases that can be fatal as a result of these demonic socialist policies. Here in the US, people have to choose what limbs they have to keep because they cannot afford both.

Wouldn't it be nice if people did not have to worry about when they have to shop for groceries or purchase school supplies for their children because they can barely afford the cost of commuting?



posted on Apr, 2 2008 @ 07:45 PM
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We don't own all of the oil in the world...

Are you saying we just go in guns blazin' and occupy all of the oil fields as ours? I think a little place called "The Rest of The World" might have a problem with that.



posted on Apr, 2 2008 @ 07:48 PM
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this is a great Idea,

We can convert the US Mail carries to gas transport.

"Here's your two gallons of Gas sir. thats your weeks ration, there is a war on after all!!""



posted on Apr, 2 2008 @ 08:12 PM
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Originally posted by Sublime620
reply to post by thedigirati
 


The price gouging will not end until we prove that we can live without it. Until then, their grip over our finances will only tighten.


Or we do as I say. Hang the bastards in the streets and nationalize our oil companies in the name of national security. Then pass laws stating that it is illegal to profit from the sale of oil. (except through taxes on sales)



posted on Apr, 2 2008 @ 08:36 PM
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Rockpuck my friend, why nationalize over 13$ or by "bastards" did you mean the countries that get 80$+ in profit per barrel of crude oil?

it's not all the oil companies fault, it's the Sources



posted on Apr, 2 2008 @ 08:44 PM
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No. the oil companies. Don't tell me "over $13" .. They are making 100billion + a year.. we may get a big tax on it.. but why get a tax when we NEED oil for our economy? .. It is the life blood. If corporate leaching is acting like a tax, nationalize it.

As for the countries.. I have no problem forcefully taking over oil fields.



posted on Apr, 2 2008 @ 08:45 PM
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My point exactly.


I say, invest in other energy sources, and make their resource drastically drop in value.

[edit on 2-4-2008 by Sublime620]



posted on Apr, 2 2008 @ 09:37 PM
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615384615.38$

why worry over a 100 billion when 600 billion went to them (rough estimate at 100$ a barrel)


(needs help with pie charts..)



posted on Apr, 2 2008 @ 09:56 PM
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This makes me wonder if gasoline was to stop producing at this very moment and all the oil dried up for some reason, would America go crazy? Would there be riots? Are we way beyond going back to bicycles, horses and walking? Would it be the end of the world?
Sounds like the government has us right where they want us. " Panicking & fearful "



posted on Apr, 2 2008 @ 11:14 PM
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What a farce those hearings are Im willing to bet that afterwards the congressmen were signing those big fat camipagn contributions.



posted on Apr, 2 2008 @ 11:57 PM
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wouldn't it be great if we all just demanded rediculous prices for what we all do, or just let everything shut down? but that would take a concerted effort from everyone.this is probably the only thing the french do that i like. everybody just stays home until they fix what the public doesn't like.
or declare war on these companies and stop giving them what they need to operate? or we could really get mad and...(deleted due to the patriot act).we have to take action,but like i said concerted. and you do realise that the government loves racism and different views,and different religions,BECAUSE... GET READY, HERE IT COMES,THE SIMPLEST WAY TO SCREW US WITH NO REACTION...IF EVERYBODY BELONGS TO A MINORITY,THERE CAN NEVER BE A MAJORITY TO STOP ANYTHING. this is why the government and the media always make hate the no. 1 story.they want us to hate ,to be suspicious,and to fear others.
OLDEST TRICK IN THE BOOK...DIVIDE AND CONQUER
we all have a different flag to waive,and until we all wave the same one,we are at their mercy.
its right in front of us. 300 million people together call the shots. and you dont even have to give up our petty differences
ALL WE ALL HAVE TO DO IS SAY"NO MORE"


AND MEAN IT

we are so used to just taking it,we dont even remember what it was like to stand as one,and JUST SAY NO

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posted on Apr, 3 2008 @ 05:13 AM
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I think we all have more than enough reason just to say heck with it, and quit playing their game. If we could pick a day, and get the word out...and just take one day and not play, don't work, don't spend, don't buy gas, maybe they'd notice. also, they are counting on us spending that tax rebate money in the stores....and for the amount of money they spent sending us all those little letters informing us of their "estimate" as to how much we would be getting, I think they are hoping we spend it before we even get it....
what if instead of spending it, everyone just hung onto it, or used it to decrease their debt? they want us working, so they can pull "record profits" from our labor...so well, let's all pick a day, get the word out, and just not work...take a bite out of their profits, save a little in gas money. they want us spending, what if we all just put ourselves on an emergency spending plan for a few months, bought only those things we can't live without, at the second hand store whenever possible. they seem to want us all dependant on their food stamps, their social medicaid programs.......but what it the people who come up with the premiums and doctors fees just decided on day that hey, they were gonna go back to charging just what the patients themselves could afford? what if the employers just started paying a wage that was high enough so that the employees weren't qualified for these programs?
what would happen if we all just stayed in our budget, come hell or high water and refused to stop spending more than we earned?
reckon, where would they be if we just stopped playing the game the way they want us to?

and, reckon what would they do, if the majority of the voters voted mickey mouse into the office of president.....just how humiliating would it be to the parties to have to admit, they lost to a cartoon character.
or, if we all pitched in $5 to bribe the little typist who types up those books that they call laws to just add a few lines into that book removing them from office for neglect...since well, if they didn't read this book before they passed it into law, that would be neglectful, and if they did, they certainly wouldn't have passed it!

if we could get organized in a meaningful way, we do have the power to change things. unfortunately, way too many are way too content either living off the government handouts or profiting way too much the way things are.....for the most part, it's usually just a few that are really hurting bad enough to spend the time necessary to do anything about anything.



posted on Apr, 3 2008 @ 09:49 AM
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Nationalizing is a terrible idea. The government absolutely can't operate as efficiently as the private sector. There are very few things the government does well, and most other things the solution is to throw money at problems or add beauracracy. Also, that'd just mean higher taxes, because that'd be one more thing that WE the people would have to pay the government to do.



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