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LANL scientist makes radio waves travel faster than light




Topic started on 1-4-2008 @ 12:47 PM by DaddyBare


This little news blip cane out 1/18/2008 but I guess everyone missed it... as I did search and no where in ATS was it mentioned???
please take time to give it a careful read... not only have they broken the superluminal (Faster than light) but have discovered a phenomenon equivalent to a sonic boom...
Link to story

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reply posted on 1-4-2008 @ 12:57 PM by Chiiru


wow! Im suprised as well!

Very interesting breakthrough!! I wonder what else you can do with a device like that.... Why are people not caring about this that much?! Amazing.



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reply posted on 1-4-2008 @ 02:08 PM by SageOfWisdom


The implications and possiblities created by this could have an even larger impact on mankind than even nuclear weapons. This could be the beginning of the next big leap for the human race, This may eventually lead to the possibility of super luminal space travel just by proving it is possible to go faster than the speed of light.



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reply posted on 1-4-2008 @ 03:29 PM by DaddyBare


I sort of posted the dumbed down story for normal people like me...
for you more hard core I'll post the link so you can read his Abstract
"Spectral properties of the nonspherically decaying radiationgenerated by a rotating superluminal source"
Long hair big word pdf that makes little sense to me



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reply posted on 1-4-2008 @ 03:39 PM by expatwhite


can someone dumb this down for the layman

I also have a serious question, if it went faster than light would it not also go back in time. Therefore it would be received before it was sent ?



My head hurts



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reply posted on 1-4-2008 @ 03:55 PM by DaddyBare



Originally posted by expatwhite
can someone dumb this down for the layman

I also have a serious question, if it went faster than light would it not also go back in time. Therefore it would be received before it was sent ?


I'm really not to right person to "Splane it Lucy"
but no you wouldn't go back in time... you would kind of steep out of time...
See Einstein said you couldn't go faster than the speed of light as the faster you went the more time slowed and right at the speed of light time just stops so you would never burn that last drop of fuel to put you over the top... well that's what we all thought... now who knows???

I should point out this John Singleton hints that its not so much the wave breaking the superluminal but the shock wave it creates may be able to carry particles as well

Keep in mind when you read this, John Singleton is no back water college prof...
the dude works for Los Alamos National Laboratory and the Department of Energy has given them a three-year,
$3 million grant to work on the project

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reply posted on 1-4-2008 @ 04:40 PM by GradyPhilpott


I'm sorry for this question, but I must ask in hopes that someone will know.

I was under the impression that radio waves travel at the speed of light because they are the same as light waves, just oscillating at different frequencies.

If a radio wave can be "abused" enough to to travel faster than the speed of light, then why can't light be "abused" enough to travel faster than the speed of light?

I also have to wonder what affect these "abused" waves would have on the humans who might use cell phones that emitted these waves, as suggested as a possible application in the future.

The warnings of current cell phone use on the brain just won't go away.

www.newsinferno.com...

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reply posted on 1-4-2008 @ 04:58 PM by SageOfWisdom


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This is part of the goal behind it. If you can make light travel faster, then the limit for how fast something can go is also raised.



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reply posted on 1-4-2008 @ 07:55 PM by DaddyBare



Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
I'm sorry for this question, but I must ask in hopes that someone will know.

I was under the impression that radio waves travel at the speed of light because they are the same as light waves, just oscillating at different frequencies.

If a radio wave can be "abused" enough to to travel faster than the speed of light, then why can't light be "abused" enough to travel faster than the speed of light?

I also have to wonder what affect these "abused" waves would have on the humans who might use cell phones that emitted these waves, as suggested as a possible application in the future.

The warnings of current cell phone use on the brain just won't go away.

www.newsinferno.com...

[edit on 2008/4/1 by GradyPhilpott]


The short answer is no yes no no and maybe...LOL

light is ...as we know it is a particle...it has mass just not a lot of it..you could equate it to a tiny rock if you would.. we can measure the pressure caused by photons hitting a sensor...that's how camera light meters work,
Now a radio wave is energy no particle and no mass...

as for how they might effect people? who knows? these days everything is bad for...heck I'm waiting for the government to come out with a report saying mothers milk is toxic so I can volunteer to place all the warning labels! ;-)



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reply posted on 1-4-2008 @ 08:11 PM by realism


I'm no scientist, but for someone to invest $3 million, it must be pretty important!

i wonder how long it will take for us to see any of the new technology in action!



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