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reply posted on 2-4-2008 @ 01:01 PM by TheBandit795
David Rockefeller still claims that it is so though.

From his book:
David Rockefeller: Memoirs

"For more than a century, ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents such as my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure — one world, if you will. If that is the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it."



reply posted on 2-4-2008 @ 01:04 PM by CaptGizmo
Originally posted by thought
reply to
post by TheBandit795



No, no, no, no. It's obvious that he stood by everything in that book and probably still would were he alive today. Nevertheless, I think he really felt himself to be misrepresented...he didn't like conspiracy theories or conspiracy theorists. Furthermore, if he really believed the CFR was as obscene as you claim he did, he could have done a far, far better job of standing up against it.


So by your way of thinking about this is that everyone that has been quoted as saying that the NWO and a hidden group runs policies around the world are misquoted? or taken out of context?

Thats alot of people taken out of context or misrepresented then would you not say?

Those are words spoken directly from some of these people and many of the quote are on video.

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reply posted on 2-4-2008 @ 01:09 PM by thought
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Sure, but there is nothing inherently sinister about increased global integration.



reply posted on 2-4-2008 @ 01:10 PM by thought
reply to post by CaptGizmo



In the grand list of quotes, I said "these are individuals speaking their opinion". Nothing more. I said nothing about them being taken out of context. I said CQ was taken out of context, something CQ himself admitted.


reply posted on 2-4-2008 @ 01:24 PM by TheBandit795
reply to post by thought



Of course there's nothing sinister of an increased Global Integration on it's own. There is one where that Global Integration is owned and controlled by a small group of unelected individuals.


reply posted on 2-4-2008 @ 01:25 PM by thought
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And I would agree. Technology does, however, dictate that increased integration will happen, whether this goes towards tyranny or liberation is up to us-we must be vigilant.


reply posted on 2-4-2008 @ 01:33 PM by CaptGizmo
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I am not sure how they could be nieve on this in particular since many of them have mentioned the NWO in speeches or in interviews.

I think we all would love to live in a world that is a Utopian style of governing, however getting there is a whole other story.They openly say we need population reduction.......who is to make the decision who lives and who dies,who eats and who starves,who gets medical treatment and who does not,etc,etc,etc, all the while continuing to tax the hell out of you so you and yours will never ever achieve anything of value or substance all the while taking away you rights to raise your own children.


oh......forgive me......I went on a tirade there......and I have gotten off topic sorry all.


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reply posted on 2-4-2008 @ 01:35 PM by thought
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OK, who says we need population reduction? Be specific. Use quotes, please.


reply posted on 2-4-2008 @ 01:43 PM by battlestargalactica
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'thought' strikes me as someone who is writing a school report and needs some more information and wants us to do the legwork for 'em

Seriously though, whats up with the one line posts 'thought'? If you were really curious about what 'CaptGizmo' is talking about, I would think you would look it up..

"Give a man a fish, feed him for a day, teach a man to fish, and you feed him for a lifetime"

I am not going to give you the source of that quote for your research paper 'thought', you'll have to look it up on ur own.


reply posted on 2-4-2008 @ 01:45 PM by thought
reply to post by battlestargalactica



I'm sorry, I'm of the school of thought that burden of proof lies on the one making the claims. So, sources?


reply posted on 2-4-2008 @ 01:48 PM by thought
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So, we have a secondhand account by Russo about ONE rich guy saying he wanted pop reduction. DR's quote has nothing to do with pop reduction.


reply posted on 2-4-2008 @ 01:49 PM by battlestargalactica
Originally posted by thought
reply to
post by battlestargalactica



I'm sorry, I'm of the school of thought that burden of proof lies on the one making the claims. So, sources?


See I knew you were still in school and doing a bookreport

The source, as CaptGizmo points out, is within that video I posted (that you obviously did not watch). Thats the source. His name is Aaron Russo, if you're not going to watch the video, you're obviously not going to know what we are talking about and will remain ignorant on the topic.



reply posted on 2-4-2008 @ 01:52 PM by thought
reply to post by battlestargalactica



No need to watch it, Gizmo filled me in. You guys really are making a mountain out of a molehill, sorry.


reply posted on 2-4-2008 @ 01:53 PM by battlestargalactica
reply to post by thought



It looks like 'taught' 'thought' wants the information written in stone concerning population reduction...right?

Well Ok then, here it is

The Georgia Guidestones, heard of them?
It's an interesting story, read up on it. (reading is low bandwidth)




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reply posted on 2-4-2008 @ 01:55 PM by thought
reply to post by battlestargalactica



Gosh, you people have abysmally low standards for proof. Look, something some loon carved on a giant tombstone proves nothing.


reply posted on 2-4-2008 @ 01:57 PM by battlestargalactica
Originally posted by thought
reply to
post by battlestargalactica



Gosh, you people have abysmally low standards for proof. Look, something some loon carved on a giant tombstone proves nothing.


*cough* troll *cough*

What 'loon' are you even talking about? If you mean the guy who commissioned the guidestones, well first off, he is unknown, so if you have some proof that he is a 'loon', please provide it. Sources?
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