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Topic started on 31-3-2008 @ 11:10 PM by MajKarma

Kobe University: An Unknown Planet in the Outskirts of the Solar System


www.kobe-u.ac.jp
Dr. Patryk Sofia Lykawka and Prof. MUKAI Tadashi of Kobe University have conducted a theoretical work on the origin and dynamical evolution of Trans-Neptunian objects (TNOs). The results strongly suggest the presence of a yet unknown massive planet in the Solar System. With the upcoming future sky surveys, we can expect the planet to be found within 5-10 years.
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reply posted on 1-4-2008 @ 12:51 AM by xmotex
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It's not as crazy as it sounds.

We can look at galaxies billions of light years away because they are incredibly bright objects.

A planet even the size of Earth would reflect very little light from the sun at the huge distances this thing would be at, it would be very nearly invisible unless you looked in precisely the right place at the right time, and for long enough to note that it was a moving object within our solar system.



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reply posted on 1-4-2008 @ 01:39 AM by Equinox99
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We can see super novas because they are extremely bright and the light is traveling towards us.


reply posted on 1-4-2008 @ 07:51 AM by NovusOrdoMundi
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Correct me if I am wrong but the way we determine where planets are in other solar systems and galaxies is to find the main star (their "sun"), and then look for a sort of wobbling to determine that there are objects and gravitational forces at work. We then use this to determine if or when we will be able to actually see the object, or the planet.

In basic terms, is that correct?

If so, can't the same technique be applied here?

All I'm saying is our Solar System is interesting too. I don't see why we spend so much time looking beyond when we haven't even finished discovering our own neighborhood.


reply posted on 1-4-2008 @ 09:27 AM by Maxmars
April Fool's day notwithstanding; Gravitational observations have always indicated that our outer planets are being affected by an as of yet undetected object. It was this very study that is said to have led us to 'discover' the outermost planets themselves.

(Of course, much to the chagrin of modern day astronomers these were not technically discoveries as archaeological evidence demonstrated some cultures had a prior knowledge of these outer bodies - how? don't ask me? I wasn't there.)

Editorializing of the scientific reports has commonly used phrases like - astonishing, massive, etc. But you have to take some of it with a grain of salt because after all, they are trying to 'sell' news and if it was mundanely presented who would care? Japanese Universities are no different than most. they have to 'celebrate' their discoveries if they want more grant money (you can tell they need grants by all the starving scientists out there.)

By the way they (NASA) did detect an IR body approaching our solar system back in the 80's on what could possibly be an oblique elliptical, but nobody paid attention to it because of the importance of other things in the news at the time. Probably something to do with Rock Hudson having AIDS or Amelda Marcos' shoe collection.

I'm not one to cry out Planet X or Nibiru or Marduk or Wormwood or whatever. That's just window dressing. But I am willing to bet - there is something out there, whether it's part of our solar system we will most certainly learn - either for good or ill.


reply posted on 1-4-2008 @ 09:29 AM by St Udio
My thought is that they are using the wobbles in other planets motions (mostly the Neptune orbit anomalies) to deduce that there is something more than the distant, Pluto sized planetoid named 'Sedna' out there.

Out there is likely the Oort cloud where billions of loosely bound masses of ice-dirt are floating around.

If one looks at this link;
www.chinadaily.com.cn...

you can see just how actual orbiting bodies are found/discovered.
it's by looking for points of light moving over a period of time,
then the scientists can deduce its orbit and estimate its location...


when Sedna was discovered back in 2004, the astronmers & physcists & such told the public there is probably another larger 'planetoid' out in deep space where Sedna was discovered....because a small icy planetoid slightly smaller than Pluto would not account for the tugs on the Neptune orbit.
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