FBI tracked King's every move

FBI tracked King's every move

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(CNN) -- FBI wiretaps have "given us the most powerful and persuasive source of all for seeing how utterly selfless Martin Luther King was," as a civil rights leader, according to a leading civil rights scholar.

"You see him being intensely self-critical. King really and truly believed that he was there to be of service to others. This was not a man with any egomaniacal joy of being a famous person, or being a leader," said Pulitzer Prize-winning scholar David Garrow in a recent interview wit

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LMAO i can't believe they actually thought MLK was linked with communism. freaking ridiculous. and its crazy how things can be kept under wraps for so long.

turns out the tapes they recovered didn't have any communist related conversations in them... go figure..

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But they did reveal embarrassing details about King's sex life -- details the FBI was able to use against him.

I wonder how they used that against him....

The FBI paper trail spells out in detail the government agency's concerted efforts to derail King's efforts on behalf of the civil rights movement.

The FBI's interest in King intensified after the March on Washington in August 1963, when King delivered his "I have a dream speech," which many historians consider the most important speech of the 20th century. After the speech, an FBI memo called King the "most dangerous and effective Negro leader in the country."

So the govt now admits that they wanted to derail MLK but couldnt find any evidence to do so...

so... who killed him?

hmmmm....

They just admit they couldn't find any evidence to do so...

That doesn't mean they didn't actually do it...

They think they're oh so smart

Why go through all of the trouble of sorting out documents and tapes to mount a disinformation campaign that could be easily exposed by a good portion of the population and outright not believed by most of the population when you can hire a "lone nut" to end it with a bullet, send the country in to a racially unstable riot period, and gain even more governmental powers to hold over the masses as they scramble amongst themselves pointing fingers in all the wrong direction as their government protects them from the looming boogeyman enemy that doesn't exist beyond the White House?

Just sayin'...

From the OP's article:

The bureau convened a meeting of department heads to "explore how best to carry on our investigation [of King] to produce the desired results without embarrassment to the Bureau," which included "a complete analysis of the avenues of approach aimed at neutralizing King as an effective Negro leader."

In September, Kennedy consented to the technical surveillance. Kennedy gave the FBI permission to break into King's office and home to install the bugs, as long as agents recognized the "delicacy of this particular matter" and didn't get caught installing them. Kennedy added a proviso -- he wanted to be personally informed of any pertinent information.

So the President was in on this one. I wonder if he ordered the hit of MLK too? The "story" about who and how MLK was murdered is fishy in the first place. This article makes me wonder how deep the conspiracy goes.

King's associates confirm there were at least two cases in which FBI surveillance caught King in compromising circumstances.

The first incident involved King at a party at the Willard Hotel in Washington. The FBI recorded the party and captured the sounds of a sexual encounter in the room afterwards. The second incident occurred during King's stay in a hotel in Los Angeles, California. There, agents heard another drunken gathering in which King told an off-color joke about the recently assassinated President John F. Kennedy.

This information would have been very damaging to the civil rights movement. He was probably killed for multiple reasons...But not because he was cheating on his wife or he made a few ridiculous comments.


The most damning part of this article is this:

When King learned he would be the recipient of the Nobel Peace Prize in 1964, the FBI decided to take its harassment of King one step further, sending him an insulting and threatening note anonymously. A draft was found in the FBI files years later. In it the FBI wrote, "You are a colossal fraud and an evil, vicious one at that." The letter went on to say, "The American public ... will know you for what you are -- an evil, abnormal beast," and "Satan could not do more."

The letter's threat was ominous, if not specific: "King you are done." Some have theorized the intent of the letter was to drive King to commit suicide in order to avoid personal embarrassment. "King, there is only one thing left for you to do," the letter concluded. "You know what it is ... You better take it before your filthy, abnormal fraudulent self is bared to the nation."

The FBI intimidated MLK prior to his death. He must not have listened to what they said and laid low. Instead, he was to make one last speech. If this isn't evidence of a conspiracy, I don't know what is.

Nice job FBI. In the name of national security you helped murder (along with the mafia and others I'm sure) a man with a great vision of equality.

Gotta keep a brother down, don't ya?

Yea i was a bit shocked when I read about JFK's involvement in keeping survelance on MLK...

I wasn't alive during his term but after reading so much and leanring so much about him he never would strike me as the type of president to make a decision like this.

Kind makes me loose a bit of respect for him........

I'm not sure how anyone COULD respect JFK.
Imagine the scene;
JFK comes bakc to the oval office after another of his "assignations" and sits around with his brother and their cronies plotting to put poison in cigars, or sink a ship, or crash a remote controlled plane in order to remove castro or start a war so he could be removed.

It wouldn't surprise me one little bit if JFK were involved in the plot on some level, even if it were just "do what you gotta do, but don't tell me"

The guy read FAR too many spy novels - people only love/respect him because he was shot.

On the other hand, MLK was a man to be respected - and not just as a black leader, also as a thoroughly decent human being.

Originally posted by budski
I'm not sure how anyone COULD respect JFK.
Imagine the scene;
JFK comes bakc to the oval office after another of his "assignations" and sits around with his brother and their cronies plotting to put poison in cigars, or sink a ship, or crash a remote controlled plane in order to remove castro or start a war so he could be removed.

I never heard about any of these things mentioned. Not that I don't believe you, I just haven't researched JFK's presidency very much. I was under the impression he was a pretty good, honest guy...But i guess thats what they want you to think, right?

It wouldn't surprise me one little bit if JFK were involved in the plot on some level, even if it were just "do what you gotta do, but don't tell me"

Now this, on the other hand, I agree with. Not so hot, JFK...

On the other hand, MLK was a man to be respected - and not just as a black leader, also as a thoroughly decent human being.

For sure, for sure.

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I saw a film a few days ago (don't remember the name) that said JFK was involved in pushing for anti-gun laws. I haven't checked the facts on that claim but if that's true, I've lost a great deal of respect for JFK.

And then this whole thing with MLK.

I've also heard that the Kennedy's are one of the "13 bloodlines" or something like that. Also haven't looked too much in to that.

I don't know, though. I've been hearing a lot in just the last week or two that has made me question JFK's integrity.

Have a look at this
Ok it's from wiki, but even they can't get this wrong.

It shows how deep and far reaching their connections are.

Wonder how they feel about having arnie in the family....
He probably claimed to be related to the austrian royal family and is a distant relative of the Habsburg-Lothringen's.

Which would then connect him to the british royal family - small world

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Thank you! Do you know of any other good sites with information on the Kennedy's?

Sorry OP and mods. I shall refrain from further off topic posts!