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Originally posted by realism
I think if you study that a little deeper you might find they are!
Originally posted by Excitable_Boy
Jesus and God are not the same thing. *yawn*
Originally posted by Excitable_Boy
So Christians are Pagans? Two gods?
I have always found this fascinating. Christians will put down Pagans all day long.....but LOOK IN THE MIRROR!! Christianity is Paganism.
Originally posted by Excitable_Boy
According to this, yet another story from about 350 BC that is identical to the story of Jesus!
source: groups.msn.com...
Soon after this Zorastrian/Babylonian takeover in about 580BC, The Babylonians were holding the Jews in captivity. The Jews were Henotheists at this time but became heavily influenced by the concept of one god of goodness and one god of evil.
In about 350BC Mithras was sent by the Father God down to Earth to confirm his contract with Man.
Mithras was born of a virgin by immaculate conception.
- He was born of Anahita, an immaculate virgin mother
Mithras was born in a stable.
We celebrate his birth on Dec 25th
Mithras was visited by wise men bearing gifts
Mithras had 12 disciples
He was called the Messiah
- Mithras was also the god of Darius, conqueror of Babylon, He was called "Messiah" or Christos by Jews during their Captivity.
Mithras made a Contract (or Covenant) with Man confirming an older contract with God
- The Persian word Mithras literally means "Contract"
Mithras celebrated a last supper with his disciples before his death
Mithras died to atone for the sins of man
Mithras was resurrected on a Sunday
Mithras ascended into Heaven to rejoin his Father
Mithras will return to pass judgment on mankind
- He was known as the judger of souls
On judgment day, the dead will arise and be judged by Mithras
Mithras will send sinners to Hell
Mithras will send the faithfull to Heaven
On judgment day there will be a final conflict between evil and good.
The forces of evil will be destroyed and the saved will live in paradise forever.
Mithras is part of a holy Trinity that took human form
Mithras is depicted as having a halo
Mithras followers drink wine and eat bread which represent his blood and flesh.
Mithras followers are baptised
That's a whole lot of remarkable coincidences all from hundreds of years before Jesus was born.
The Holy book of Zoroastrian was called the Avesta of Zarathustra (Zoraster is the Greek word for the Persian "Zarathustra"). The Jews were well aware of this book.
And I was called a plagiarizer in another thread!
This is fascintating stuff and I am going to go buy a copy of whatever book this story is in and share some of it. I am heading to Barnes & Noble. I will be back.
Now this IS a conspiracy!!
[edit on 1-4-2008 by chissler]
Originally posted by AshleyD
reply to post by Excitable_Boy
This is known as the 'Pagan Copycat Hypothesis' and has been proven to be pretty much nothing but a lie. It has been debunked beyond all doubt in the terms they use to create the correlations.
See these following links:
www.bringyou.to...
www.tektonics.org...
www.thedevineevidence.com...
A man by the name of Kersey Graves started the craze in the 19th century. Even though it has been thoroughly refuted, it's a hard lie to quench because pseudo-scholars repeat the same incorrect information over and over again.
Because it has been proven false, it is amazing how it keeps getting passed around and at this point the only term that can be applied is 'deceptive.'
Not referring to you, EB, but the 'scholars' who keep propagating this lie. It's even one of the issues I mentioned in the thread about atheists rewriting history. Not only are they using lies to accuse Jesus of being a myth, they are making blatantly false claims about other figures of ancient cultures.
Originally posted by drevill
...as a consequence Stan tries to fool others by setting a false systems...
Originally posted by jimmyjackblack
reply to post by Neo Christian Mystic
Lol, anyone who knows me very well will tell you I am the opposite of Catholic, I'm a Christian, not a Catholic by any stretch.
If you read The Book of Enoch (wich was originally in the Bible til the Catholics took it out), you'll see that when our ol' buddy Enoch goes to Heaven to learn some stuff, he see's The Son of man, The Ancient of Days and The Lord of Spiritsl, these are the old names of the Trinity.
Ashley D, I wish you were single and between the ages of 20-25 (you seem to be a very wise and mature person, which is why I think you are older than myself), cause I would marry you in a heartbeat. It's hard to find a woman who believes what I and a few of my friends on here believe. Any guy who has you as a wife is far lukier than he thinks.
I wish people would quit quoating the extremely biased Zietgiest and do there own research into this stuff, seriously, it's getting a little old, hearing someone quoat that piece of crap and then the next person disproving it is getting a little too common. Come on Jesus/God haters, can't you do better than that? Quit boring us with this mindless dribble
Hello, my name is Excitable_Boy, I like to just make the old argument, over, and over, and over agian, even though I've already had this question explained to me in previous threads, but I'll just keep doing it because I'm a drone. Plus I'll switch suibjects when I get proven wrong so I can make believe it never happened.
Seriously, I'm not trying to sound mean