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Someone explain the hijackers being alive.

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posted on Apr, 7 2008 @ 07:35 PM
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Originally posted by fastfingersfunk
none of them are alive, 100% myth. the BBC made a false report that they later cleared up.

why don't you actually provide proof that they are live before you think about make a post about it.

how about this, tupac and biggie are alive too. seriously, i read it on the internet. what a joke.


Another part of the problem was that when CNN got the list of names, they broadcast photos of the hijackers, but in man cases used pictures of people that were actually alive instead of the hijackers. This was of course done before the FBI had even released the pictures of the hijackers.




posted on Apr, 7 2008 @ 08:11 PM
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Originally posted by Double Eights
For the life of me I can't comprehend this 19 hijacker theory. If nearly half of these hijackers are still alive, who in the hell was on those planes?

Maybe I am just overlooking something, but I just don't understand the whole situation. If these people stole identities, then who are the real perpetrators of the crimes committed on 9/11 (the Government, but I'm talking about the "official story" for right now)?

It makes no sense. None. My head is going to explode just trying to understand this nonsense.

So I ask, can someone reply and explain to me this whole fiasco? Why was there a mixup of who the terrorists were? Why has there been no correction?

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It's truly laughable to think that people actually believe that Planes hit the towers, just because that is what they saw as an animated sequence on their TV mouthpiece. No aluminum plane ever can penetrate into a solid Concrete & Iron structure building and come out on the other side. Demolishing Bombs collapsed the towers, planes were shown on TV as an Illusion of Reality. Keep Dreaming, it makes sense to be Dumb.



posted on Apr, 7 2008 @ 08:41 PM
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Originally posted by Dubyakadubla
It's truly laughable to think that people actually believe that Planes hit the towers, just because that is what they saw as an animated sequence on their TV mouthpiece. No aluminum plane ever can penetrate into a solid Concrete & Iron structure building and come out on the other side. Demolishing Bombs collapsed the towers, planes were shown on TV as an Illusion of Reality. Keep Dreaming, it makes sense to be Dumb.



Stick to the Hologram threads. This is about the hijackers.

Thank you



posted on Apr, 7 2008 @ 08:52 PM
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Originally posted by CaptainObvious

Originally posted by Dubyakadubla
It's truly laughable to think that people actually believe that Planes hit the towers, just because that is what they saw as an animated sequence on their TV mouthpiece. No aluminum plane ever can penetrate into a solid Concrete & Iron structure building and come out on the other side. Demolishing Bombs collapsed the towers, planes were shown on TV as an Illusion of Reality. Keep Dreaming, it makes sense to be Dumb.



Stick to the Hologram threads. This is about the hijackers.

Thank you


What if there were no Hijackers, that was the gravity of my point, No Planes-No Hijackers and to further complicate matters, the so called Hijackers are Alive, therefore...my statements definitely fits the profile.

No aluminum plane ever can penetrate into a solid Concrete & Iron structure building and come out on the other side. Demolishing Bombs collapsed the towers, planes were shown on TV as an Illusion of Reality.



posted on Apr, 7 2008 @ 09:02 PM
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Originally posted by Dubyakadubla


What if there were no Hijackers, that was the gravity of my point, No Planes-No Hijackers and to further complicate matters, the so called Hijackers are Alive, therefore...my statements definitely fits the profile.

No aluminum plane ever can penetrate into a solid Concrete & Iron structure building and come out on the other side. Demolishing Bombs collapsed the towers, planes were shown on TV as an Illusion of Reality.


Can you back up those claims of yours so we know that you aren't simply making them up? We can already see the fault in your argument since the WTC buildings were not solid concrete and iron by any stretch. Can you show us the physical evidence of these bombs? And can you explain to those of us WHO WERE ACTUALLY THERE and saw the planes how they managed to pull that off?

And we have also determined that no the hijackers are not alive, but it makes no sense anyways since according to you there were no hijackers and no planes.



posted on Apr, 7 2008 @ 09:08 PM
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Snoopy....

Responding to the no planers is feeding the trolls.... don't let them de-rail this thread.

This sounds like a Killtown fan.



posted on Apr, 7 2008 @ 09:11 PM
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Originally posted by CaptainObvious
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As you wish:

FLIGHT 77 Hijackers:

Hani Hanjour:

Hani Hanjour was born in Saudi Arabia on August 30, 1972. His full name was Hani Salih Hasan Hanjur. Hanjour is suspected of being the pilot who flew American Airlines Flight 77 into the Pentagon on September 11.

Hanjour obtained a commercial pilot's certificate in 1999 and according to the chief instructor, "Despite Hanjour's poor reviews, he did have some ability as a pilot." and "There's no doubt in my mind that once that (hijacked jet) got going, he could have pointed that plane at a building and hit it," he said.

Hani had visited the United States on many occasions. Starting back in the 90's. He was considered the most religious of all the hijackers.

There are videos of him at the check point at Dulles on 911.



Nawaf al-Hazmi:

Born in Saudi Arabia on August 9, 1976. His full name was Nawaf bin Muhammad Salim al-Hazmi. al-Hazmi (along with his brother Salem and three others) is suspected of involvement in the hijacking of American Airlines Flight 77, which crashed into the Pentagon on September 11.

The brothers are CLEARLY seen at Dulles security check points. Videos were presented at the Mousaui Trial. If you would like a link. I will post it.

Nawaf fought in the Bosnian War. After that he went to Afghanistan with his brother and joined up with Al Qaida to fight the Northern Alliance.

It was learned that the bothers were the first two picked by Osama Bin Laden to carry out the attacks.

Khalid al-Mihdhar and Majed Moqed were also hijackers on flight 77. I will post more about them tomorrow.

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Nice Story from someones story book, but.....No Video Shows Hijackers Boarding Targeted Flights

911research.wtc7.net...



posted on Apr, 7 2008 @ 09:12 PM
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You're right, I apologize. It's just that for those of us who were there first hand when it happened an watched it in person, it's offensive when these ignorant people come along telling us it was all staged on TV. It's very insulting and especially to those who lost loved ones (which doesn't include me, I didn't lose anyone).



posted on Apr, 7 2008 @ 09:20 PM
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Originally posted by snoopy
You're right, I apologize. It's just that for those of us who were there first hand when it happened an watched it in person, it's offensive when these ignorant people come along telling us it was all staged on TV. It's very insulting and especially to those who lost loved ones (which doesn't include me, I didn't lose anyone).


People who were there, definitely heard explosions, nobody ever can give concrete evidence that they saw planes hitting the towers.



posted on Apr, 7 2008 @ 09:30 PM
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Originally posted by Dubyakadubla

What if there were no Hijackers, that was the gravity of my point, No Planes-No Hijackers and to further complicate matters, the so called Hijackers are Alive, therefore...my statements definitely fits the profile.

No aluminum plane ever can penetrate into a solid Concrete & Iron structure building and come out on the other side. Demolishing Bombs collapsed the towers, planes were shown on TV as an Illusion of Reality.

The 19 terrorist are dead. Doubt they will start a new religions by rising up from the dead.

An Al plane can do 9/11, your statement is wrong? Where does this come from? With a basic understanding of physics people can understand why a KE event equal to 2200 pounds of TNT in the form of an aircraft impact does so much damage.

If you could prove an Al plane can not crash into buildings like they did on 9/11, you will be a genius who can show others how you figured out the physics the world knew was wrong. Einstein would be surprised, and Sir Issac Newton would too. Good luck with your new fantasy-physics. You should write a book, a whole new alternate universe will be reveled. Lots of money when you show your new world physics formulas that do not behave in our real world.



posted on Apr, 7 2008 @ 09:39 PM
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Originally posted by CaptainObvious
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You may want to look here:

americanhistory.si.edu...


and read this story here:

onlineathens.com...

in part:


"The fact it was so violent is hard to deal with," Ruth Koch said, noting she'd thought about how the couple must have felt in those last moments, knowing their two little girls would die.

During an interview earlier this week, Koch delicately handled eerie mementos of the crash found during cleanup: Whittington's battered driver's license. One granddaughters' luggage tag.




a burnt luggage tag and a wedding ring lie on a book dedicated to those lost in the events of Sept. 11, 2001. The wedding ring belonged to Ruth's daughter and the luggage tag belonged to one her granddaughters.



I read those links. I read a few pages but I saw nothing under the first link that backs up your argument. I find that disingenuous.

The second link and the burned baggage tab do suggest that it is possible. Unlikely, extremely convenient, but possible. And how many passports did they find? Was it 1 or 2?

Also you said you were going to tell us all about the hijacker and stopped at three (at least that is as far as I got)

[edit on 7-4-2008 by rizla]



posted on Apr, 7 2008 @ 09:43 PM
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Originally posted by snoopyBut the truth is that many people's IDs were found as well as many people's credit cards and other items from wallets, and pockets, etc.


Do you have evidence for this?



posted on Apr, 7 2008 @ 09:50 PM
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What was discovered in the ruins of the twin towers? The evidence Captain Obvious sites is not great.

I checked his first link: americanhistory.si.edu

It contains barely anything to back up his argument that a passport survived.

The second link is better.

But what stuff survived? Does a list exist? Or is it a secret?



posted on Apr, 7 2008 @ 10:16 PM
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Originally posted by rizla

Originally posted by snoopyBut the truth is that many people's IDs were found as well as many people's credit cards and other items from wallets, and pockets, etc.


Do you have evidence for this?



I have seen documentaries on TV based just on this. The premise being items recovered form the site and being returned to their owners or family members of the owners for the first time and the family members talk about what the items meant to the owners (who for the most part were people killed in the impact, etc). All sorts of things such as dolls, wallets, IDs, badges, etc etc. I don't remember what it was called because I did not foresee this conversation coming up. And chances are it wouldn't be on the internet legally anyways.

But more importantly such things survive in ALL plane accidents. So why should 9/11 be any different than other plane accidents, including ones where the planes were completely destroyed like on 9/11. Heck not too long after 9/11 there was the incident where the guy flew his plane into a building in NY and they found his wallet lying in the street below.


And there are people on this forum who have had friends die on 9/11 and that their families were given belongings found. There's also a documentary somewhere that includes footage from fresh kills where the workers are sifting through debris on a conveyor belt by hand, every inch of what was haled out. The purpose being to look for body parts, but they also sorted out personal items as well.

My sister was also one of the people in charge of helping collect recovered items and even helping with a 9/11 museum for the city so I can ask if she knows much about it. She was lucky in that had she not missed her train she would have been in the one stuck under the WTC and probably wouldn't have survived. Instead she was stuck in a pitch black subway car for hours with no idea what was going on while her husband and I watched from across the river.



posted on Apr, 8 2008 @ 01:22 AM
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Originally posted by fastfingersfunk
youve already been debunked on this. .


NO, i have not debunked. No one has posted proof to show the information i posted is wrong.



posted on Apr, 9 2008 @ 08:28 PM
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Originally posted by CaptainObvious
If anyone is interested, I can post information about each and everyone of the highjackers. For some reason, I don't think anyone cares.

I will do my best to answer any questions you have about ANY of the 19 highjackers, as NONE of them are listed as John Doe's. Were all of their DNA proven? No. But when you use the process of elimination, you can pretty much figure out who's DNA is who's.

Nine days ago you promised information about nineteen alleged hijackers.

You have presented some information about six of the alleged hijackers.

We're still waiting for information about the other thirteen hijackers.



posted on Apr, 9 2008 @ 09:23 PM
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Mucho Pacientcia amigo!

I have minimal time on here... work blocked this site...and I have a life.

I will get back to the hijackers as soon as I can.



posted on Apr, 9 2008 @ 09:46 PM
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off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


 



posted on Apr, 10 2008 @ 02:32 PM
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Originally posted by CaptainObvious
I have minimal time on here... work blocked this site...and I have a life.


I have a great life and a great job helping our troops everyday. I have tgo get online from home becasue i cannot get online from work.

www.trackingthethreat.com...

Entity Type: Person
Entity Status: Alive
Start Date:
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Date Created: 22 Sep 2003
Date Modified: 06 Jun 2007





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posted on Apr, 10 2008 @ 03:52 PM
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They are dead.



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