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Man convicted after gun missfires.




Topic started on 31-3-2008 @ 04:52 PM by want2believe


Man convicted after gun missfires.


www.wnd.com

Man convicted of transferring a machine gun, after loning rifle to friend and gun missfires causing it to rapid fire!
(visit the link for the full news article)



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reply posted on 31-3-2008 @ 04:52 PM by want2believe


March 29th David Oofson was found guilty of trensferring a machine, after he lones gun to friend who took rifle to gun range and shoots several rounds through it when something causes gun to miss fire. Afterward two police officers approach the man ask him about gun. Somehow the ATF get involved and this man has the full force of our great government rain down hell on him!

www.wnd.com
(visit the link for the full news article)



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reply posted on 31-3-2008 @ 07:34 PM by LordBaskettIV


Those cops must not know what "bump fire" is...that's just sad. Any semi-auto rifle with enough kick can do this, such as a AK-47, or ar-15, ect. Not to mention that, in this case it was actually a defect of the gun. How is it the users fault? This is flipping sick!

Not only that, last week at the local gun club there were demonstrations on how to bump fire your rifle. And cops were there too! If the gun has no full auto mode selection, its legal.



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reply posted on 31-3-2008 @ 08:01 PM by C0le


Its BS not much to say on it other then that...

This should teach people a few things,


1.The Government is out to screw you over.
2.Don't loan a firearm to anyone.
3.shoot on private property not at public ranges.
4.If this happens to you, don't let them arrest you.



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reply posted on 31-3-2008 @ 08:01 PM by turbokid


i would DEMAND that the rifle be dismantled by a gunsmith and proven to not have been tampered with.



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reply posted on 31-3-2008 @ 08:03 PM by racegunz


I believe the cops knew better but weren't concerned with reality, the question I have is was this a Jury trial? it doesn't say in the article and I will lose evn more faith in my fellow americans (not that there's much left) if a jury did convict this man.
Maybe i should turn myself in, my rifle did this to me back in 1988 or perhaps some overzealous policeperson can track my IP and have the ATF raid me, I'm just sick of nobody in law-enforcement willing to stick up for justice and freedom.



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reply posted on 1-4-2008 @ 07:40 PM by planeman


I expect the conviction is right. Why does he want a semi-automatic rifle in the first place?



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reply posted on 1-4-2008 @ 07:45 PM by C0le



Originally posted by planeman
I expect the conviction is right. Why does he want a semi-automatic rifle in the first place?


Semi-Automatic rifles are legal, I seriously hope your not suggesting this conviction is right because you don't agree with his right to keep and bear arms?

It doesn't matter why he wants a damn thing its his right to own it, What he owns quite frankly is no ones business unless hes hurting someone.



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reply posted on 1-4-2008 @ 08:21 PM by racegunz


WOOHOO Planeman! with that self righteous (or ignorant) point of view it's no wonder our priviledges are being taken away, Yes I said priviledges the only "rights" any one has is the ones they are strong enough to get and keep. I hope for your sake you will never see the day you or your family needed a self defense weapon, but for our sake I hope you do!



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reply posted on 2-4-2008 @ 12:19 AM by northwolf


I have never seen a stock rifle going burst, nor heard about one.
But i've seen plenty of tuned competition rifles shoot doubles or bursts...

Most likely this jackass installed an aftermarket trigger unit and failed to adjust it correctly, thus he is fully responsible for this misfire incident.



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reply posted on 2-4-2008 @ 01:53 AM by TXMACHINEGUNDLR


I am by no means pro gun control....lol...In fact I am too the right of most gun nuts on this issue....HOWEVER this story came up as a topic of conversation with a couple of my friends who work for ATF. We are not getting the whole story here..Thanks to the MMM. The guy fessed up that he played around with the hammer catch on the thing with a dremmel tool...He "loaned" his buddy the gun because he was afraid to test fire it..lol......He had the damn tool and metal shavings laying on his kitchen table when ATF came by for Christs sake......ATF does not care about bump firing....they dont care if you get a 200 stamp and buy a machinegun...they DO care about people making machineguns as a hobby...the guy told the truth...that was his only mistake He should have said he sold his buddy the gun and it sould have been his word against his friend....in which case the gun would get melted, and besides a angry buddy......the guy would be free.IMHO



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reply posted on 2-4-2008 @ 01:58 AM by TXMACHINEGUNDLR


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So when the revolution comes we can hunt down the libs and raid their "peace" gardens, and communist farm collectives. What they gonna do throw rocks.



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reply posted on 2-4-2008 @ 11:04 AM by want2believe


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reply posted on 2-4-2008 @ 11:08 AM by want2believe


reply to I hope you dont have a relituve with lets say an old 9mm. Because that is a semi auto weapon and it could missfire and possibly rapid fire, but that doesnt mattter does it . post by planeman




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reply posted on 16-4-2008 @ 10:48 PM by racegunz




Thanks to the MMM. The guy fessed up that he played around with the hammer catch on the thing with a dremmel tool...He "loaned" his buddy the gun because he was afraid to test fire it..lol......He had the damn tool and metal shavings laying on his kitchen table when ATF came by for Christs sake......ATF


Well TX, You're right, I didn't read this ,where did you? (link please) I read that the ATF tested the rifle and it came back "just a rifle" then the cops sent it back with instructions to use a soft primered ammunition variety and "viola!" instant machine gun. In my opinion dremeling a hammer sear combo, usually causes the hammer to follow on closed bolt weapons without firing the next round unless the primers are way sensitive. So yes it's possible he 'modified his rifle" But he was convicted of transfering an automatic weapon, did he sell it to his buddy? I didn't read that anywhere either. If he was convicted by a jury then shame on them either way. I can't believe that the metal shavings were on his table either how long do you think it would take to ship the rifle off to get tested? Or did the ATF raid his home immediately after he went to the police that confiscated the rifle? Again please give me a link to your source of extra info.



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reply posted on 20-4-2008 @ 09:27 PM by Retseh



Originally posted by planeman
I expect the conviction is right. Why does he want a semi-automatic rifle in the first place?


Oh I dunno, crazy stuff like self defence, hunting, competition shooting, pest control, or maybe even recreation.

English are we perhaps, hmmmm?



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