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Topic started on 23-2-2004 @ 06:21 PM by NephraTari
Are you down in the dumps lately?
Can't find a job?
Bills coming in?
workers comp giving you the run around?
Marriage on the rocks?
Dog bit your leg?
Neighbors cat uses your yard for a litter box?
Life just basically suck overall?

*good.... its all going according to their plan then isn't it?*
I once read a quote that said "President Bush must really love the poor.. he has created so many of them"

With the world the way it is today.. what is there NOT to be depressed about?
But how old must you be to suffer from this dire illness?
Well apparently children as young as 3 1/2 years old can be treated for depression..

How are they being treated? What is the miracle cure?

Lets take a look at that shall we?

Lets start with Zoloft....
More common side effects may include:
Abdominal pain, agitation, anxiety, constipation, decreased sex drive, diarrhea or loose stools, difficulty with ejaculation, dizziness, dry mouth, fatigue, gas, headache, decreased appetite, increased sweating, indigestion, insomnia, nausea, nervousness, pain, rash, sleepiness, sore throat, tingling or pins and needles, tremor, vision problems, vomiting

Less common or rare side effects may include:
Acne, allergic reaction, altered taste, back pain, blindness, breast development in males, breast pain or enlargement, breathing difficulties, bruise-like marks on the skin, cataracts, changeable emotions, chest pain, cold, clammy skin, conjunctivitis (pinkeye), coughing, difficulty breathing, difficulty swallowing, double vision, dry eyes, eye pain, fainting, feeling faint upon arising from a sitting or lying position, feeling of illness, female and male sexual problems, fever, fluid retention, flushing, frequent urination, hair loss, heart attack, hemorrhoids, hiccups, high blood pressure, high pressure within the eye (glaucoma), hearing problems, hot flushes, impotence, inability to stay seated, increased appetite, increased salivation, increased sex drive, inflamed nasal passages, inflammation of the penis, intolerance to light, irregular heartbeat, itching, joint pains, kidney failure, lack of coordination, lack of sensation, leg cramps, menstrual problems, low blood pressure, migraine, movement problems, muscle cramps or weakness, need to urinate during the night, nosebleed, pain upon urination, prolonged erection, purplish spots on the skin, racing heartbeat, rectal hemorrhage, respiratory infection/lung problems, ringing in the ears, rolling eyes, sensitivity to light, sinus inflammation, skin eruptions or inflammation, sleepwalking, sores on tongue, speech problems, stomach and intestinal inflammation, swelling of the face and throat, swollen wrists and ankles, thirst, throbbing heartbeat, twitching, vaginal inflammation, hemorrhage or discharge, yawning

Zoloft may also cause mental or emotional symptoms such as:
Abnormal dreams or thoughts, aggressiveness, exaggerated feeling of well-being, depersonalization ("unreal" feeling), hallucinations, impaired concentration, memory loss, paranoia, rapid mood shifts, suicidal thoughts (hang on now... say what????), tooth-grinding, worsened depression <~isn't that what it is supposed to PREVENT?

Many people lose a pound or two of body weight while taking Zoloft. This usually poses no problem but may be a concern if your depression has already caused you to lose a great deal of weight.

In a few people, Zoloft may trigger the grandiose, inappropriate, out-of-control behavior called mania or the similar, but less dramatic, "hyper" state called hypomania.


Hmmm maybe not... NEXT

Well lets try Paxil then...

More common side effects may include:
Abnormal ejaculation, abnormal orgasm, constipation, decreased appetite, decreased sex drive, diarrhea, dizziness, drowsiness, dry mouth, gas, impotence, male and female genital disorders, nausea, nervousness, sleeplessness, sweating, tremor, weakness, vertigo

Less common side effects may include:
Abdominal pain, abnormal dreams, abnormal vision, agitation, altered taste sensation, blurred vision, burning or tingling sensation, drugged feeling, emotional instability, headache, increased appetite, infection, itching, joint pain, muscle tenderness or weakness, pounding heartbeat, rash, ringing in ears, sinus inflammation, tightness in throat, twitching, upset stomach, urinary disorders, vomiting, weight gain, vertigo, yawning

Rare side effects may include:
Abnormal thinking, acne, alcohol abuse, allergic reaction, asthma, belching, blood and lymph abnormalities, breast pain, bronchitis, chills, colitis, difficulty swallowing, dry skin, ear pain, exaggerated sense of well-being, eye pain or inflammation, face swelling, fainting, generally ill feeling, hair loss, hallucinations, heart and circulation problems, high blood pressure, hostility, hyperventilation, increased salivation, increased sex drive, inflamed gums, inflamed mouth or tongue, lack of emotions, menstrual problems, migraine, movement disorders, neck pain, nosebleeds, paranoid and manic reactions, poor coordination, respiratory infections, sensation disorders, shortness of breath, skin disorders, stomach inflammation, swelling, teeth grinding, thirst, urinary disorders, vaginal inflammation, vision problems, weight loss


Hmmm still deppressed? I can't imagine why...

Shall we try another drug?

NO?

Tell me something why do you think it is that nearly everyone you know suffers from depression or some other disorder requiring this sort of medication to "cure" them?

Anyone? anyone?

Perhaps we should start asking who has something to benefit from this and what those benefits might be.




DISCUSS.

[Edited on 23-2-2004 by NephraTari]


reply posted on 23-2-2004 @ 06:47 PM by lilblam
Originally posted by McGotti
I like how when I was areested for pot when I was 15,they told me Iwas self-medicating with marijuana because I was depressed.What I thought was funny was that they were willing to arrest me for use of marijuana they thought was for self-medication,and tell me its wrong to use marijauna to help with depression,Yet is was more than acceptible for me to go on depression medication that costs ten times more and had MANY more side effects than marijuana.

Hmmmmm... a possible link between....--War on drugs-----Big drug companies pushing their drugs-----politicians making harsh drug laws because they get huge campiagn contributions from drug companies

I think we have found the true reason behind the war on drugs....its not to protect anyone BUT the huge drug companies.


This doesn't exactly explain why the big drug companies couldn't just create a monopoly by importing/exporting what now we call "illegal drugs" and creating a legal, profitable market as they are highly addictive. Maybe there is more to this... it wasn't illegal until someone decreed that it will from now on be illegal... the question is, instead of legally profiting from these drugs, why would someone ban their use?

Sure the CIA might practice drug trafficking and illegally finance black projects etc using drug money from other countries like Afghanistan etc... but why not make it legal, wouldn't it create a much bigger market?

Seems like they are hiding something... something that perhaps threatens those elites at the top... but what could it be?

Note, that some anti-depression drugs have side effects like "Suicidal thoughts or tendencies" which is rather odd, as it seems that suicidal thoughts is what the drugs are supposed to PREVENT. There's something really sneaky going on there...

Or what about the flu vaccine.. it was public knowledge that it didn't help against the strain that was around... but why did they insist everyone get it.. makes you think they're putting something in these drugs etc... but could that be the case? If so, what would be the reason for drugging the population? What about chemicals that cigarette companies put in cigarettes.?

Could it be a massive mind control operation through over the counter drugs and cigarettes?

[Edited on 23-2-2004 by lilblam]


reply posted on 25-2-2004 @ 02:24 PM by NephraTari
Okay.. time to be blunt.

I tried to present this in a way that perhaps others might see all these things and put together what I have.

That is not happening.

Am I paranoid? perhaps.... but what I see here happening is something that I truly believe is a conspiracy. A very real conspiracy going on under our noses.. although the purpose for it.. is yet beyond my grasp.

The current state of the economy is no accident.. I think that despite claims otherwise the government is allowing things to get worse... if not actively doing offhand things to make it worse... as one of the contributors to causing the population at large to sink into depression.

Think of the word Depression.. originally it was used to describe another time of great economic downfall in a time of war similar to what we are experiencing now.

I do not think that the choice of terminology is an accident by any means but a key trigger for the psyche of the general populace to respond to.

Why would they want the population depressed?

A form of control? to what end?

I have not got all of the answers yet, but I do believe that the government wants us dependant on these drugs... did you know that if you try to stop taking these drugs that in many cases your symptoms will become extremely and in most cases WORSE than they were before you started? You go through withdrawals much like a person would coming off an illegal drug like heroin.

In my own experience those people that I know on these drugs become MORE suicidal after taking the drugs and also more hostile.

Why would you be given a drug that causes side effects worse than the problem its treating?

They have an agenda... I think it would behoove us all to figure out what the hell that agenda is.


reply posted on 25-2-2004 @ 06:38 PM by NephraTari
Originally posted by aimlessly
I have to weigh in here. I take paxil for anxiety attacks.

My first one happened one night out of the blue, I seriously thought I was dying. My chest hurt, my arms were numb and I was shaking uncontrollably.

This lasted for 3 DAYS!!!

It got to the point where I seriously could not be in public. I thought I was dying every day.

I was scared of things that make no sense. Once i was doing the dishes in my apartment and for no reason, thought that there was someone down my hallway who was going to kill me. I grabbed a knife from the drawer and stood with my back against the opposite wall and cried (hard) til my husband got home. You may ask, why didn't you leave or go outside if you thought you had an intruder? I felt like I could not go outside, either.

Panic disorders are very strange and definately NOT fun.

I went through 3 years of this kind of stuff before I got a doctor who knew what was going on. I have been on paxil for 2 years. I can not tell you how thankful I am for it.

Now, with all that said. I do think that the people with everyday kind of problems, money, girl/boyfriend problems, etc. do not need medication. But speaking from experience, some of us freak out and can't control it.

I totally understand where you are coming from.. I am not saying that medicines shouldn't be there for those who need them... but recently they are quick to tell people that they need them when.
I am talking about the fact that they are looking for any excuse to tell someone they are suffering from depression.
I am talking about people who DON'T need it, that are being prescribed it.
Something is just not right.
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