Congress to Legalize Cannabis!!

Congress to Legalize Cannabis!!

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There have been so many times that congress have tried to legalize pot but it has failed. This time I think it might be different. Legalizing weed would save the world. Believe it or not.

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reply to post by pro420

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WooHoo!!!

Great post. I support the legalization 100%.

Thanks for the link.

While I doubt this bill will pass this time it is good to see the persistence and hopefully one day it will finally pass.

Personally, I think pot is less harmful then nicotine or alcohol.

On another note, I think legalizing all drugs will stop most of the violence that plagues America. There are so many pros for this argument. The only downside is that corporate pharmaceutical giants won`t be as strong. But be it that they are the ones running the government from behind the scenes along with an increasingly more powerful federal reserve more doubt is cast that Americans will ever govern their selves.

I hope it passes but it won't. Too much big money against it. The medical and prison industries depend on it being illegal.

I think it is a smart idea and it would free up alot of resources but I doubt Congress would take this action now and I seriously doubt Bush would sign it. Maybe if monsanto had canabis "improved" and trademarked.

It's ok to dream.

reply to post by downtown436

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You got that right.

Too bad we weren`t actually running our government.

End Prohibition Now!

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

It would be nice to not have to look over your shoulder for buying something far less harmful (to yourself and others) than you can buy at virtually every convenience store, bar, club, restaurant, etc. Obviously i'm talking about alcohol! The Federal Government has always had a hard-on for marijuanna and the war on drugs.

While i do think it would be a great thing for responsible adults to have access to whatever drugs they want, i also know the frailty of humans. Case in point, the presence of opium in China. At one point a seriously large portion of the chinese population was holed up in opium dens just smoking their lives away. That kind of thing absolutely cannot happen if marijuanna were to be legalized.

I think it should be legalized.
The things I know:

a.) Drinking alcohol makes me:
i) want to dance the night away
ii) fight with the other girls on the dance floor
iii) increases my confidence to a scary level
iv) Puke if too much is consumed
v) have hot tub parties in the middle of a Canadian Winter
vi) Pick fights with people outside the bar while waiting for a cab
vii) Get involved in other people's fights outside the bar while waiting for a cab

b.) Smoking Marijuana makes me:
i) Gain 5lbs from eating so much ice cream (jk)
ii) Enjoy "That 70's Show" just a little bit more
iii) have great experiences with music (classical sounds amazing)
iv) Love everyone
v) Sleep great.
vi) Have funny conversations with people, none of which involve the possibility of broken bones.

From my personal experience, I don't know why Marijuana isn't legalized, and Alcohol is. Most things are alright for you in moderation, too much of anything is never good...

If the Government wanted to legalize Marijuana, they could regulate it, tax it, and make some money off of it.

These days buying marijuana can be dangereous, because you never know what it could be laced with. If the government regulated it, you could be assured a certain level of pure THC, none of this laced with harsher drugs stuff.

They could make it readily available to those of the appropriate legal age, and the same rules should apply as for alcohol. No Smoking and Driving, and in the event of a DUI the punnishment should be the same. It all comes down to self-control. Since marijuana is considered a gateway drug, to all other drugs, it could prove harmful for some people. But just because there is a liquor store at the end of my street, it doesnt mean i go buy a 40 of vodka and drink it every night. And just because there could be a Pot Shop at the end of my street, doesnt mean I'd go out and buy an ounce every day and smoke it all and be constantly fried.

It depends on peoples personal tolerance, and personal level of addiction. People with highly addictive personalities, might have a tough time with it being so readily available.... But for people who can exercise self control, and indulge in alcohol/marijuana once in a while, it would be convenient.
Just my opinion.

Originally posted by csulli456


You mean crack and heroin?
Because of that the idea is politically divisive against the Libertarian movement. Instead: Why doesn't the state say to every addict "we will give you a free life time supply of your drug, if next time you contact you're dealer you phone CID so we can bust them".
Now if you think about there will always be more drug clients than drug dealers, and because we're talking about nasty addictive drugs it will work because everyone knows about people being prepared to do literally anything to get hold of these drugs.
The state can supply a clean supply, in the knowledge that overall the problem is going (permanently) down. You can be confident it will be a permanent solution (in the long term) because you turn the maths against the dealer, and even if your informer tries to sell the drug themselves the maths is equally against them. Under my approach it would (perhaps for the first time) actually be in the interests of the drug dealer if their client wasn’t hopelessly addicted).

As for the topic...
Keep on trying!!! They'll fail this time because the democratic majority is only very small, and besides Bush would certainly put a match to the idea.
However getting the issue to the clumps of fat that is the brains of the stereotypical Fox TV audience is what counts. Explain something enough times and eventually they (might) agree with you.

[edit on 090705 by Liberal1984]

I think it is a good idea, though like other posters, I am doubtful that it will be passed. I'm fine with legalizing pot, providing a safe way to obtain it, and taxing it like we do with cigarettes. We have far worse chemicals that are legally available to the public than THC. It'd probably even provide a nice boost for our currently struggling economy.

I am concerned about the status of non-violent drug offenders in our prisons and the fact that my tax dollars are going to support them. Our prisons are overcrowded as it is and I've never seen the point in long sentences for non-violent drug offenders. I am interested in whether the passage of this bill would also allow for the release of those prisoners. Can anyone familiar with the law clue me in to how this would affect current prisoners in jail for pot-related offenses? Would prisoners who were merely users benefit more than prisoners who were dealers? Would any of them benefit at all?

/tn.

reply to post by pro420

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I live in the Netherlands and if there's one thing we are famous for it's legal pot

I don't think using marihuana should be a criminal thing. However like with everything... use it with care, than you should be just fine.

Anyone with a braincell left unaffected by fluoride must surely be able to discern that the "war-on-drugs" has been one of the biggest failures in American history. If in fact those trillions of dollars had been spent on education and prevention, we surely would not have been in the situation we find ourselves in now. Countless thousands if not millions of lives have been ruined and wasted not only by unreasonable prison sentences, but also by abuse and death resulting from that abuse.

If there is one thing that should have been learned from all of these years on that war, it is that no matter whether legal or illegal there are going to be those who use, and those who through lack of education and treatment, abuse drugs.

Mind altering concoctions have existed for as long as there has been a recorded history, be it written or spoken. I believe that there is within the inner soul of man a desire to experience the unknown, and a desire to seek beyond what we call "reality." This drive has lead man to seek it in many forms, be it through religion, mind altering concoctions, or both.

Long before there was any of the modern drugs available, man was seeking to alter his perception through the use of various plants, mushrooms, and alcohol. The desire to seek insight and knowledge on a plane not readily available without these mind altering concoctions has continued unabated through out history. In fact, it has been only in the past century that governments have made any attempt to control or declare it "illegal."

That said, we now have a society, that is in many ways unique. With the advent of modern science, and the new found ability to create, synthesize, and redefine the makeup of these mind altering concoctions, man has created concoctions that are neither healthy for the mind or the body. Due to this new found ability, what was once more or less completely natural in makeup is no longer the case.

Having been one of those who grew up during the drug crazed years of the 60's and 70's I have to honestly say that there isn't to many of those concoctions that I haven't tried at one time or another, be it natural or synthesized. Fortunately for me, not having an addictive personality, I was always able to take it or leave it, and leave it, when I saw it wasn't in my best interest. There were many who weren't and aren't able to do that, and I am sure that there are many who through no personal aim of their own became hopelessly addicted, and in many cases this addiction has caused their death.

What our society has to come to grips with, is the reality that as long as there is a way to get "high," there are going to be those who are going to do it. Instead of trying to put a mask on it, by attempting to quell that desire through laws and unreasonable controls, that do nothing but entice and encourage illegal activity, other approaches should be sought and implemented.

Unfortunately most of us, don't weigh the good with the bad, when we dive into the realm of concoction experimentation. Very few are even aware of the truths and the realities that existed in that realm. Until we as a society are willing to educate, without prejudice, on the benefits and pitfalls of "drug" experimentation, and offer treatment, again without prejudice, to those ill effected by that experience, all the money in the world will not solve the problem.

Do I believe that all drugs should be available without abate? No, I do not, but if I can grow it, or find it growing in nature, why should I not be able to perform my own experimentation, and decide for myself if it is something I can benefit from using. It is my firm belief that education and the availability of treatment will go much further at solving the problems our society now faces, than all of the laws and money spent on enforcement will ever solve.

I do agree with the medical/pharmaceutical aspect ALONG with areas affected by the many industrial/manufacturing uses with hemp. The prison thing can be argued, as they just don't seem to be a priorty to receive funds...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Au contraire, mon ami, it's been one of the PTB's greatest triumphs.

How do you think the black ops boys fund most of their shenanigans?

Links to a few of the threads here devoted to the subject:

American Drug War

Russian state TV suggests USA involved in drug-trafficking from Afghanistan

CIA Torture Jet wrecks with 4 Tons of COCAINE

Afghanistan Opium Production Reaches 93% of World's Supply

CIA Front Company Research Thread

5 ton coke bust- planes owners- Tom Delays appointee, and CIA?

CIA Involvement in drug smuggling.

Here's links to two sites that help keep track of the dirty underbelly of the "War on Drugs"

TheMadCowMorningNews

The Narco News Bulletin

And, from my earlier post, the link again to the site dedicated to the sensible efforts of compassionate and reasonable law enforcement officers to end prohibition:

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

Bookmark 'em while they're hot and before this thread disappears.




[edit on 6-4-2008 by goosdawg]

I could not agree with you more. As a criminal justice student finishing up my undergraduate and heading to law school after, I have done a good amount of study regarding the “war on drugs.” Most police officers in my classes always disagree with me, however I feel it has been the worst disaster of a strategy our justice department has ever been involved in.

I am 100% against taking 1st time offenders especially, who are addicts with many drugs, and locking them up due to mandatory sentencing. They need support and education, not a jail sentence and a criminal record that will affect the rest of their lives, not allow them to have a decent career, or get federal funds for college. I could go on about this subject in great detail and my strong objections for hours.

It is all about what the government can maximize profit off of without looking morally out of character. It is completely backwards. If people want to do drugs, most will do drugs, regardless of the laws and consequences involved. It makes no sense at all to invest all this money to "crack down" on drug users. If they want to crack down on drugs they need to focus on the big dogs involved in importation/distribution, not the users. Stop the real underlining problem, not the after the fact problem.

As far as marijuana is concerned I also could not agree more with some opinions here. I do not smoke marijuana but I drink which is absolutely worse for many people. I don't see marijuana creating nearly as many issues as alcohol does in our society....not even close.

Regardless of all the facts, I think it will be along time (if ever) until marijuana laws are given a fair objection. Most states are not willing to give up federal funding over marijuana, although I have seen more state legislatures object lately.

reply to post by CA_Orot

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I agree 100%. Tax it and pay off the deficit over night! No one ever got killed by smoking pot. If i am ever elected president, i pledge some pot in every chicken!


If Hell were a donut, then all roads must lead to Rome

I think it's time we put a President in office who will give this serious... and logical... thought. The whole War on Drugs has been nothing but a drain on the taxpayer and a strain on the 'family unit' of America, by puttimg so many non-violent, good parent, "offenders" away. Here's the guy...



C'mon folks... let's get behind some with some good sense in his head. We've certainly been lacking that in leadership for at least a couple of decades now.

Root for America!
www.abovepolitics.com...




[edit on 4/10/2008 by RabbitChaser]

What is there to legalize cannabis, Dubya has already signed into a Bill of Rights under (Section 10532) of the Dope Laws of 2009 that Cannabis aka Gunja or Zol or Grass or tree of knowledge or whatever is hence forth a Legal Tender for Purchase. Screwups ARE only Possible if Bush is Around.

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reply to post by pro420

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If God is merciful the bill will pass.

This is not a one line post.