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Originally posted by dk3000
I agree that citizens should not be narking each other out and then having the police show up to shirt the blame.
However- it is not beyond the police for this scenario either:
Mall administrator gets customers who are irritated by a citizen who is trying to create an atmosphere to rally attention so they express political/social views. The Mall manager's responsibility is to customer satisfaction then to store owners trying to sell wares to the public.
Mall manager calls the police (policy/procedure????). Police inform Mall manager to have a customer place the protester under citizens arrest for disturbing the peace because unless this occurs they cannot not intervene.
Mall manager requests and conveys information to angry shopper- who agrees to place protester under citizen's arrest as soon as police arrive in the parking lot.
GET A CLUE PEOPLE!!!
Originally posted by rcwj75
Originally posted by roadgravel
or is it just a on the spot call by the police.
See this is what I mean. Police didn't just show up and arrest the guy! We respond to complaints made by others or as I stated we have rules to follow when someone/security makes a citizens arrest. You people really need to learn more about the laws and way laws are enforced before ALWAYS assuming the police make all the decisons.
Originally posted by AboveTopSecretDotCom
This world is being trained to accept police officers as their masters. The globalists, who believe they can control the world (members of the United Nations & European Union) make so many laws against free people. Expect more people to protest against the wars, which those 2 wicked organizations have started.
Also: expect more unlawful arrests, and a revolution, which will be televised.
Originally posted by merryxmas
Hey rcwj75 you're a cop in the ATL? You don't happen to work in Zone 6 do ya?
Originally posted by chiponbothshoulders
There is something in between making an arrest,and correcting the problem without making an arrest.
THAT THING IS CALLED DISCRETION.
And even if the police do not believe it is within their options,it still is an option.How about this..if a police officer thinks that maybe what he is being told he has to do in a certain situation is wrong,maybe he should do what he knows is right,and be man enough to answer to the authorities himself for upholding what he..................
AHHHHHH,nevermind,this country is so far gone that there really is no point trying to explain it....most of you would not understand it even if you had better reading comprehension
Originally posted by tyranny22
I believe you're right in this instance ... and many others.
But, there are many cases in which police, when dealing with less than favorable conditions, abuse the system only because they lack the mental stability to stay calm under pressure.
Such as when police are called to a domestic dispute that has already been resolved by those involved, only to be insulted by one of the suspects. Rather than back down and admit that there is no longer any problem, they grab the suspect, slam him to the ground, shove a knee into the suspects kidney, proceed to cuff and arrest the suspect ... for an insult.
Can you show me a law that states it's illegal to insult a police officer? There are none ... unless a local law for foul language can be applied.
I'm sure the charges were listed as disorderly conduct, disturbing the peace, or some other bogus at-will statue that the officer conjured up - yet in all actuality, there was no reason to make an arrest. Other than the officer couldn't handle an insult with integrity.
I'm not saying I side with the suspect. I think insulting ANYONE is a sign of a weak and insecure individual ... but the inability to deal with unfavorable circumstances makes some police officers just as weak and insecure as those they're trained to deal with in serving and protecting.
[edit on 31-3-2008 by tyranny22]
Originally posted by dariousg
I fully understand and agree with what you are saying. However, I fear that the reason the police have been villainized so much is because of what we are witnessing in some of the bigger cities. Especially NYC.
For me, I now live in a very small town in the middle of Ohio. Everyone knows everyone. We know all of the police and sheriffs in town. They respond to calls and such as they are expected to. We appreciate all that they do and I still hold a deep respect for them.
Like I said, it's not 'those' police that are beginning to worry people. It's the ones that make comments caught on tape like, "You see what she had in the front of her car? The Constitution!" Said with a chuckle. It's the police that treat people with disrespect because they claim to know their rights.
I know what you are going to say. These people probably do something to deserve being accosted. Well, let me just say this. I have seen things that didn't deserve it. I'll just put it this way, if an officer of the law decides to pull someone over they had better be prepared to give reasons and answers. Fair is fair. If they ask for someone's ID and registration then they should be willing to say, "You know why I pulled you over? Well, you did this and that." Instead, when asked what they have done these particular style of officer demand their ID without giving the proper response. Then things get out of hand because people DO have rights in this country and many of these people have educated themselves on those rights.
Just my thoughts.
Also, THANK YOU with all of my heart for your work for us all. You are showing why I still respect the police.
Originally posted by jkrog08
Agreed,but dont I legaly have the right to arrest him?
He said that for months he had been on ’special duties’ coordinating a top secret operation, meeting with ‘top brass’ from the police and national and local government. This was happening all over the country, he said, and certain officers had been chosen - or were having to do - what he was doing.
The officer asked for another promise from Andy not to reveal details of the conversation before saying that the government was preparing for what he was about to reveal ‘well, well, in advance’. They were expecting …
‘… a war, a lot of riots, a lot of very big trouble.’
The officer said that he understood that Andy and his colleagues had been given a number of cards, one with the Pace caution and one giving permission to enter various premises.
‘Let’s just say, I know, now, the reason you have been given them is because when all of this happens, and it will, we [the police] will be on the front line with the armed forces and people in your kind of jobs … parking wardens, security officers, CCTV operatives and so on will be required to do our job.’
‘You must be joking, that’s crazy’, Andy replied.
Bar managers and store owners face large-scale compensation claims if their customers ogle their barmaids, waitresses or check-out staff.
New sex discrimination laws also mean that landlords who allow loud sexist jokes or banter among drinkers could be taken before a tribunal.
The regulations say that bosses are responsible for protecting their staff from sexual harassment by customers - and that those who fail to do so can face unlimited compensation claims.
They mean that a pub landlord could be sued if a bar worker complains about being called "love", or over customers telling each other off-colour jokes.
Originally posted by jkrog08
And thats where the tyranny begins-his employer(the people)not able to even get close to him,what a same-what is he a god?
Originally posted by mlmijyd
Sounds like some locals haven't heard of the term 'Free Speech'? That is still allowed in the US, isn't it? There must be some film that the residents have seen that would educate them to know this?
Originally posted by jkrog08
Also the ATL police officer taking about obstruction of justice-well cant you all(police officers)just DETAIN the individual until the situation is resolved,I have heard that you get bonuses for making a number of arrest's(I dont know if this is true,maybe for some dept.'s,but thought I would ask.