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reply posted on 3-4-2008 @ 06:05 PM by Atekiel
Same story has been posted many times just more coherently across these links:

02-06-2008, 10:42 AM www.ronpaulforum.com...

3-30-2008, 04:32 PM
www.abovetopsecret.com...

3-30-2008, 05:03 PM
www.abovetopsecret.com...

This current one and there's also one on a OregonLive. Along side these there are a few others such as the Hillary one mentioned on the front page that use the same eccentric vocab especially the term ''cowboy''. I'm also getting hits for sites that are appearing in German.

the main photobucket image page which contains 14 images can be found here:

s250.photobucket.com...

My spin on this after doing some looking into it can probably be summed up in this quote from another forum:

"The point is I went around the world thinking I was helping only to find out the every people protecting us where selling all I worked my life for on american television by a foreign national. If the american cowboy knew about this scam they would be as heartbroke as me." -Zuesadam

I think he's just using some colorful language and eccentric vocab to make it impact a bit but in turn is just making some of the statements confusing. I think that he's just trying to say in all the time he thought he was helping he learned in time that the people who were protecting us are actually selling off the American lifestyle. And that if the general middle class working American knew this they would be let down.

I think he's dropping 'American Cowboy' as a reference to the working class middle America and referring to things like "American Television" as a colorful reference to our lifestyle. All-in-all some of the statements seem to come together if you allow room to interpret them in almost a poetic manner.

But as far as things go, you can read most of the story in a more coherent layout on the Ron Paul Forum. As for everything else I can't read German and don't really trust internet translators on case breaking manners so I'll leave that up to those who can.



reply posted on 3-4-2008 @ 08:44 PM by morgansolutions
Out of all the posts here on ATS, this is the one I've had the most dicfficulty following - and believe me their a quite a few out there in the same category.

OP, I don't mean to be offensive but the post really isn't making much sense. I've read pretty much all 9 pages, and there's a few guys who have actually had the patience to do a bit of research for you and your replies thereafter are all pretty much incoherrant.

From what I've read, you trained horses, you lived in Mallorca and Germany, your girlfriend left you during the 9/11 fiasco, you girlfriends father has poisoned you with plutonium (how long have you got left to live by the way?) and at the same time you are a sufferer of Morgellons syndrome (or dilusional parisitosis), you almost met Paris Hilton. You also sold drills in your spare time and someone stole your idea?

Is the post merely a snippet of your life story? Are you hoping to write a biography? I'd recommend a ghost-writer, maybe the guy who did the Spice Girls.

I often come on ATS hoping to see posts from people who are like minded, looking for interesting threads on interesting subjects and occasionally joining in with the discussion - it seems lately though that these posts are few and far between and a lot of them seem to be pointless ramblings about nonsense.

I'd fit this into the same category - I can't see why other people have to spend their time translating what you have been saying OP - are you an english speaker? If not, then perhaps you could write it in your native language and get a friend to translate it for you - that way you could get the whole lot off your chest in one go and at the same time make sense to the rest of us.

Sorry if this is beginning to sound like a flame, I don't like to do such things, but this really pushes it a bit for me.


reply posted on 4-4-2008 @ 12:15 AM by urinalcakewalk
I understand this story is an extreme difficulty to follow. Try to remain humble, this may not be your everyday tangent. For one thing, his language center is already peculiar due to having at least a little exposure to different languages (I assume somewhat a staple when traveling Europe). Also keep in mind the man claims to be suffering from Morgellons. Relevant symptoms:

Joint, muscle and connective tissue pain, including fibromyalgia

Cognitive dysfunction, including difficulty with concentration, short-term memory, and attention


In addition, many patients experience cognitive dysfunction (known as "brain fog" or "fibrofog"), which may be characterized by impaired concentration and short-term memory consolidation, impaired speed of performance, inability to multi-task, and cognitive overload. Many experts suspect that "brain fog" is directly related to the sleep disturbances experienced by sufferers of fibromyalgia.


This may sound wacky Zeus, but one thing I read today is that your lymph system relies mostly on body movement. Sorta like your veins and arteries, but there is no heart to pump the liquid through. If you have been sitting around lately you might try jumping or bouncing up and down to help that immune system pump. I have bad allergies or something going on right now and I jumped up and down for about a half minute and I could breathe again. My pulse kicked up and I could think a little sharper too.


Sorry I have been busy with daily job/household crap. The end of the week gets hectic for me. I'll try to find some time to transcribe what I'm hearing from the recordings, maybe do a rough summary on how it all lays in my perception, how much I have hashed out on events and how the dots connect, but I'm way out of practice writing. I also live about 2 hours away from you Zeusadam, but I do not drive.


reply posted on 4-4-2008 @ 12:38 AM by telemetry
reply to post by Smack


Thanks for the post Smack!
Glad to see some more people looking at this... I was also wondering what in the world a horse trainer would have to do with all of this and it seems to me that horsemanship (or whatever you would call it) is a favorite pastime of dignitaries, rich elite and crooked (insert whatever here) and somehow this good american cowboy was thrown into the mix and taken for a ride. Pardon the pun, but seriously... this gets weirder day by day.

Originally posted by morgansolutions

Snip~
Most of us who do have an understanding of conspiracies already have an idea of what is going on and know full well that this sort of stuff happens in our own back yards. Those of us who don't and are skeptical are usually here for a good discussion and to put their own ideas across, and quite rightly so. The board would be a dull place without such arguments.

How are you involved in all this OP?



Well, that is the big question... ultimately. I've put this through my mental washing machine today, and have still just been flabbergasted by it. I'm no pro at conspiracies myself but I tend to be a good judge of character going by instincts and first impressions, and there is something about this whole ordeal that feels real, while slightly wrong in many ways at the same time. Kinda like life in general.

Realistically, the even larger question that looms before us all is whether this is or isn't the truth. Assuming that it is (which is my take atm) then what? We blow the lid off a can o' worms highest level conspiracy, what happens then?
What will become of the whistleblower (s)?
That is a question I ask to all of you from the very fiber of my being.

But, either way I look at it.. I'm gonna put my brain on the table and let the chips fall where they may.

Time to have a cold one and do some catching up



Cheers!
T




(edit)
Btw, thanks for sticking with it UCW





[edit on 4-4-2008 by telemetry]


reply posted on 4-4-2008 @ 09:09 AM by Reality Hurts
reply to post by Smack

Well done, I had found 4 of those and was apparently thinking along the same lines as you. I was saving them until after I had (hopefully) found some archived news reports to tie him to Germany & Mallorca in the right time frame. Regardless, you had found more data and thats helpful.

I did step away from this yesterday and tried to get my arms around it.

It is entirely possible that in the intimate and elite international horse ownership circle that some, especially Saudi and German, nationals knew about 9/11 ahead of time. This would be due to the fact that many wealthy Saudis are known patrons of the radical Islam movements and the fact that Germany seemed to be a staging point for people including the 9/11 hijackers.

Someone may have known and been willing to exploit it for profit.

Doug Phipps may have been the patsy. Morgellons or not, maybe the guy is a brilliant horse trainer but not an exceptionally well educated person. Maybe hes high strung and a relatively simple man without a personal sense of need for education or what others may call "refinement". I've known some horse jockeys & trainers in my life, some are simple people from a rural and rarefied environment where skill and technique is valued, but a college degree isn't a prerequisite. And many don't even have much in the way of elementary education either. I knew a guy whose parents were jockeys, and they'd go between Washington state and Oregon depending on the season, taking their 2 kids with them. The children were in school, out of school, back in school, and it went on for years, and they weren't alone.

The bottom line is that Doug might not be Hemingway when it comes to his writing style, but his life has been horse training, not literature. And in regards to Morgellons, who knows, maybe hes using that excuse as a crutch so that his writing style doesn't turn people away.

So maybe a few people here in the states knew that "something big" was going to happen, without specifics, and they knew some unscrupulous, dangerous people in Europe. They know that Doug's style was a winner, but he was a "different" kind of person. So they arrange for him to go to Europe while they dig through his information here in the states. They get the details on his training style, copy his techniques, and hope he gets killed while in Europe. And if he lives, who'll believe him?

Doug makes it back to the states, scared because some of the people he dealt with in Europe were nasty, powerful people who were not necessarily complicit in the 9/11 attack, but they knew it was coming. He returns to find that someone else is using his teachings and style. So they threaten and leverage him to keep him quiet.


Now I know that I'm omitting a good deal of detail, but I'm trying to read through the versions of his recollections of these events. Doug has posted similar, but not exact, stories on other boards and I'm trying to separate the wheat from the chaff here.

And like I said, I'm just trying to get my arms around this, I'm not at the point of proposing this as even he most rudimentary form of "theory".


reply posted on 4-4-2008 @ 06:54 PM by urinalcakewalk
Here is a copy of the first file that I tried to clean up. I used a noise filter (thats where
the weird chirpyness came from), a compressor, slowed it down 20% and upped the pitch 20%.

----------------------------------------------------------------

M: So what about me, I can't write my book?

F: Um, I don't think you should anytime soon. I think its something that you should hold off on .. (...for a another day? a little bit?).

M: And those people would, are the types that would kill me?

F: Absolutely, do you even need to question that?

M: Uh well, I heard the other thing you said he said that .. they can get me in prison if they wanted.

F: They can do anything they want, I would have said.

M: Is that what he said, or what you said?

F: I didn't say they could get you into prison if they wanted to, but what I said was, they obviously have your records of .....

M: (not sure...) looks like I did something I did not do.

F: Absolutely. We have ways (...not sure)

----------------------------------------------------------------

The rest of the audio I can only hear about 1 word in 5.
Anyone able to understand more on that or the original? Give it a shot! My ears are done for the night.


reply posted on 4-4-2008 @ 08:34 PM by Amaterasu
reply to post by urinalcakewalk


I want to thank you for your efforts here, UCW. You're doing an awesome job.

To you, z, I wish I had any power to help you with. I see your plight, and am furious, but can do nothing but offer you my positive energy.

Best of luck to you.
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