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reply posted on 20-11-2009 @ 04:29 AM by SourGrapes

reply to post by Wookiep

Wookie,

This thread was closed, and reopened, a few times. The OP was eventually banned.

can account for what Zeus is stating, regarding the bans. I can also understand the new names. Originally, once Zeus was banned, he posted under another name. He was trying to keep the topic going, but obviously had to post under a new screen name without immediately (and directly) saying he was the OP. Once the new names were found out to be the OP, then they too were banned. He then created another new account, until finally the entire thread was closed, for good. It was just opend back up, today. I'm assuming it was due to the recent MSM article about the "Torture Camp at the Horse Academy".

I'm sure the bans and final closure of this thread was due to the frustrations that members were having, and their back and forth banter that was going nowhere quick. So, rather than let the thread continue into eternity, it was put in a 'time-out'; along with it's OP.

I don't remember ever seeing a 'HOAX' label in the title, so I don't think the mods discredited the information, nor the OP. So, nothing sinister on behalf of the mods.

BTW, I followed this thread, daily, when it was live. I can totally understand how confusing reading it at one setting could be. Heck, it was confusing enough with downtime in between posts and watching it unfold. Oh the drama!

FWIW, the OP has been through horrible things that have left him scared; physically, emotionally, and psychologically. (Think: neurological damage - get it?)

If we, as a collective community, are going to help him, then we need to completely understand his condition and use 'kid gloves' in helping him to recount and organize his memories of certain events.

Oh yeah, and if we are going to help him then we also need to 'protect' him from unnecessary attacks coming from posters who may not 'understand' the entire 'situation'. It's late, but I'm sure we'll begin to see them here soon enough. (KWIM?)

OBTW, I'm not a mod, but have been around for a while and I'm just going by my own memory of the thread's progression. Given that, I could be so totally wrong and maybe it's me that needs help remembering things.

-Sour

Edit: Oh wow, I'm such a slow-poke poster! There must have been 30 additional posts since I clicked 'respond to'. So, I see Memory has answered your q's.

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reply posted on 20-11-2009 @ 02:50 PM by zeuseadam

reply to post by SourGrapes

Thank you!

reply posted on 20-11-2009 @ 10:34 PM by Wookiep

reply to post by zeuseadam

Well Zeus, it seems to me you *are* the original Zeus based on your posts, and apparently there are several on here that also agree. (mod cleared up your being banned.) I'm sorry for possibly sounding harsh, but I for one, have got to be sure of who you are, and it sounds as tho you are who you say you are. (We get a lot of people on here who like to "mimic" others from the past eg john titor etc.) I find the original topic VERY interesting and in no way was I attempting to de-rail or dismiss your claims. I hope more investigating can be done concerning this, if theres anything I can do, please let me know thanks!

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reply posted on 21-11-2009 @ 12:22 AM by Bunken Drum

Wow, that was a very bizare & truly fascinating read! I have a theory as to what has gone on in this situation, but before I post it, I'd like to ask a few questions, OP?
1) Before you left for Germany to be managed by Schneider, were you given explicit instructions to gather intel? If so, by whom & what were they?
2) Who paid for your flight to Germany that time?
3) After you informed the authorities about terrorist activity, how long was it before you left Germany & did you go straight back to the USA?
4) Once back in the USA, how long was it before you realised Anderson had copied your training style?
5) When you went to Mallorca, did you have any contact with intelligence operatives such as CIA or NSA?

reply posted on 22-11-2009 @ 12:06 PM by zeuseadam

A overview timeline....
1999 I was a top up and coming reining horse trainer with a unusual system that was highly effective for trainning

horses and had trained many many natonal and world title horses including Araban, Morgan, quarter horse, and

Appaloosa National and World title horses(most the breeds) and was on the USET(Olympic) long list for reining horses.
I started having trouble at the barn I was at, was thrown out in the middle of a horse show and did not know why.

A client that was a ex of my rival horse trainer showed up to help me. She purchased a horse from a mafia guy I

trained a horse for a brother to MHR Muscateal from the book of Arabian horse legends another horse I trained....... She promised she was there to HELP me... She now is a big thing in homeland security terror drills. At her

suggeston I underwent hypnosis to try to cope with the situaton... there I was asked to do a secret mission for the

head of special warfare......... they found out all kinds of information from what color I liked to favorites foods

and everything about my familly and lifes motivations.... In the hypnosis session they found out I used my love for

God and the Bible in my training technicks and that I dreamt of true love.... They also mentioned gathering

information on Arab terrorists or stopping terror attacks. I got more and more poor and did not know why .. and I recieved a ticket in the

mail to go to Israel.. The day I was homeless!!! I thought God took me to Israel.. In Israel the first day I met Tal..I thought she was my

true love..lol... She wrote all I said about training down. The ranch was named Vered Hagalil.. Rose of the Galilea... www.veredhagalil.com...
Albert the manager would sit and talk to me....lev sheket.. keep your heart quiet.. would have been a

good idea around the pregnant girl in Germany.....That is also the ranch where elan worked a friend of andreas....

It was a a wonderful time the people where nice and I thought they deserved to learn from me and deserved to have a

life without fear from terrorist......I taught the main General from Israels son ( we had dinner at his

grandmothers.. the prayer was may the plans of your enemies go back upon them)and one of the founding fathers

grandkids(Barrack means lightning).... That was the last time I had any kind of joy or peace.. The sea of Galilea.
www.veredhagalil.com

I brought Tal back to USA and quickly built up a school full of students.. in fact these young riders are now some

of the top from that area..again but they dont recognise my system with mr anderson or think it s rather funny..
I also think it is funny but sad how dumb Americans can be so easy to manipulate and lie to.... Gail was there with
her horse Lilly and again all my teachings and videos of clinics where recorded and the barn was full of hats and
jackets that said 'Feel the differance'. Tal left back to Israel and all of a sudden my horses started having
troubles.. hit on the leggs with hammers acting drugged and faces with cuts on them... I was hammered down and out
of business.... Create a traumatic experience..
Gail was there to HELP me.. while she help me she told everyone I
was a nut and gave the system to mr anderson to sell.. she is now dead of spinal menigtis.
Then from there to
gorden potts(where gail and gail struck again telling me I was dying of mouth cancer) and from there to Germany Andys hands.. completely upset not knowing why my horses where hurt so bad.. Pictures from Israel.
The avatar here standing in the synogogue of Christ on the pillar with my hands raised to the heavens in prayer..... Can you imagine my ex and rival trainers laughing there butts off at my love for God?? Remember they are atheist.....
There is also a picture somewhere from Capernium and George Bush... The same spot as the avatar picture...

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reply posted on 22-11-2009 @ 02:12 PM by Bunken Drum

reply to post by zeuseadam

At her
suggeston i underwent hypnosis to try to cope with the situaton... there I was asked to do a secret mission for the
head of special warfare......... they found out all kinds of information from what color I liked to favorites foods
and everything about my familly and lifes motivations.... In the hypnosis session they found out I used my love for
god and the bible in my training technicks and that I dreamt of true love.... They also mentioned gathering
information on Arab terrorists and stopping terror attacks.

Right, so you got your intel gathering mission under hypnosis, yes? I hesitate to ask another question, as I'd prefer to stick with those I asked above, but if we can get this bit about hypnosis understood, I think we'll be getting somewhere.
Who did you go to for hypnosis?

reply posted on 22-11-2009 @ 03:08 PM by zeuseadam

reply to post by Bunken Drum

I would rather not at this moment . I was sent a email from the woman that if I told on her I would get trouble from the USA government.(she is the one in the hypnosis session)

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reply posted on 22-11-2009 @ 06:36 PM by clay2 baraka

Interesting coincidence:

Michael DeWayne Brown (born November 8, 1954) was the first Undersecretary of Emergency Preparedness and Response (EP&R), a division of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), a position generally referred to as the director or administrator of the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA). He was appointed in January 2003 by President George W. Bush and resigned in September 2005. Brown was first appointed as General Counsel at FEMA. After the 9/11 terrorist attacks President Bush nominated Brown to become Deputy Director of FEMA.

Before joining the DHS/FEMA, Brown was the Judges and Stewards Commissioner for the International Arabian Horse Association, (IAHA), from 1989-2001. After numerous lawsuits were filed against the organization over disciplinary actions that Brown took against members violating the Association's code of ethics, Brown resigned and negotiated a buy-out of his contract. Brown was not fired or terminated despite rumors among the association.

en.wikipedia.org...

Many people are curious how "Brownie" made the leap from horse judging to FEMA. . Perhaps this ties in as well?

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reply posted on 22-11-2009 @ 06:44 PM by 12.21.12

reply to post by clay2 baraka

Michael Brown I am putting my money on the Dark Horse

Of Course, the Queen and the Royals are all about Horse Racing.

This story just keeps getting better.

reply posted on 22-11-2009 @ 06:48 PM by 12.21.12

So is this the Brown Horse?

reply posted on 22-11-2009 @ 07:00 PM by zeuseadam

reply to post by clay2 baraka

The debunkers wanted everyone to think I can not train a horse?? That was a reacuring theme and why I am not allowed to ride at any level to this day. Mr Brown (related to Russ Brown?) Would have had to known of the horses I have trained and of me! The horse pictured on the youtube channel. That is MHR Muscateal from the book of Arabian Horse Legends one of many US National Champion Purebred Reining Horses I trained along with so many others. If any ATS researcher wanted that was a member of the individual breeds it would be easy to look up the horses I trained and how many won National and WOrld Champion titles up to the point of me having troubles. So they knew the system was good. He would have checked my bits and watched the exact same head down style reining horse that now sells for 100,000.00 dollars a horse. In fact it is NRHA futurity time really soon alot of these people will be gathered together in one spot. Oklahoma City and if not there the Scottsdale show in Feburary.

reply posted on 22-11-2009 @ 07:04 PM by zeuseadam

reply to post by 12.21.12

I have no idea. Alot of times the registration papers dont change names on horses that are resold but has anyone looked to see if he owns horses at all of any breed? If I remember right he would have (99) been friends maybe wth Devin Benbrook, RUss brown and wife,Greg and Chris Harris.. so ya that is the whole group that thought this was so funny and set alot of my problems up benifted and profited from them.

reply posted on 22-11-2009 @ 07:55 PM by JJay55

reply to post by zeuseadam

Hi zeus. I got a message about the horses too. The dead polo horses in Palm Beach a few months back are related. Need your help to tie the ends together. I also know about the merkaba floor. take it to U2U if you like.

reply posted on 22-11-2009 @ 08:10 PM by 12.21.12

reply to post by JJay55

No kidding. Looks like the FDA was quick to respond.

articles.sun-sentinel.com...

So these guys were breeding race horses right? This was in the news today.

www.seattlepi.com...

TACOMA, Wash. -- The case of five emaciated horses found abandoned in a Pierce County forest has prompted the Humane Society of the United States to offer a $2,500 reward for information leading to arrests and convictions.

In a statement, the animal welfare organization says it appears the animals were afraid to leave the area where they had been dropped off, and could have been stranded as long as two weeks.

It said the horses discovered Nov. 12 on a logging road near Elbe were cold, hurt and "horribly malnourished."

The HSUS says two of the horses are about 15 years old; another is suspected to be pregnant and a fifth was euthanized.

The group's Washington state director, Dan Paul, says struggling horse owners can turn to rescue groups, online adoption programs or even humane euthanasia.

Abandoning animals in Washington is a misdemeanor punishable by a maximum 90 days in jail and $1,000 fine.

Pierce County Animal Control is investigating.

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reply posted on 22-11-2009 @ 08:16 PM by JJay55

More like Arabian horses must be pure, others are not on the right path. Elimination of the unpure. Simple theology.
West Nile was an attempt, target was NJ and Kentucky breeding grounds. Didn't do the trick, had to be escalated... lots of people caught in the middle.

reply posted on 22-11-2009 @ 08:23 PM by 12.21.12

reply to post by JJay55

So the horses are very deeply connected with the H1N1 and everything else that is going on right now. The release of a deadly virus?

reply posted on 22-11-2009 @ 08:26 PM by JJay55

Originally posted by 12.21.12
reply to post by JJay55

So the horses are very deeply connected with the H1N1 and everything else that is going on right now. The release of a deadly virus?

No. West Nile is a mosquito born virus released in the states in NY around 911 in a pond on a closed naval base. The mosquitos were foreign and capable of travelling 25 miles from the nest rather than the local bugs who stayed within 1 mile. The CDC thought the virus target was humans, it wasn't, it was the US horse industry. But that's not what zeus and I have to talk about.
H1N1 was an accident of the Mexican government. Was expected sooner or later since 1918.

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reply posted on 22-11-2009 @ 08:29 PM by 12.21.12

reply to post by JJay55

Yes I know, I have been reading up about the NAFTA Flu.

Thanks for your help.

reply posted on 22-11-2009 @ 08:41 PM by Bunken Drum

Originally posted by zeuseadam reply to post by Bunken Drum
I would rather not at this moment . I was sent a email from the woman that if I told on her I would get trouble from the USA government.(she is the one in the hypnosis session) [edit on 22-11-2009 by zeuseadam]

Thanks for replying. Can we see a transcript of that email, without any names of course?

reply posted on 22-11-2009 @ 08:44 PM by 12.21.12

reply to post by JJay55

Wait a second.. The Dead Polo Horses died 4 days before the outbreak of H1N1 in Mexico City and you said that the H1N1 was not targeting humans but it was targeting horses.

Please do tell.

Who attended the event in palm beach and also went to Mexico City 4 days later?

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