Another thing of interest is the vocal overlay on the youtube video..... a conversation between a man and woman, seemily distorted.....
Any one here able to filter the audio?

maybe relevent.

Cheers
Mungo

Originally posted by mattifikation
I would just like to add a personal comment to this whole thing. At first, I thought that zeusadam was flat off his rocker. But once I started looking for the videos he had directed us to, I started wondering something. How is it that a video whose release was widely reported in the press is completely unavailable now, when it's had over a year to propagate across the Internet? The CNN article I linked to earlier actually offers a link to its clips of the video, suggesting that it may have just recently been removed. Are they hiding something?

I'm hoping my analysis so far is accurate, and that we can find the missing video to shed some light on what zeusadam has to say.

Pretty good breakdown, thanks for helping.

I was asking myself exactly the same question, where is the vid?

Maybe it will shed more light on this enigma.

In the meantime:

I understand that zeusadam heard Andy say that a lot of Americans would die, and he said so one month before 9/11.

I understand that zeusadam (Please confirm you are Doug Phipps!) has recordings of such conversations.

Andy had contact with arabian clients (sjeiks) who where interested in Doug´s services through Andy.

This is the link.

Correct, zeusadam and CAN I CALL YOU DOUG?

Originally posted by mungodave
Another thing of interest is the vocal overlay on the youtube video..... a conversation between a man and woman, seemily distorted.....
Any one here able to filter the audio?

maybe relevent.

Cheers
Mungo

As I understand it that video shows two things:

1) Training quarters of Clinton Anderson which appearantly is the same location of which the 2006 "Days are Pregnant" Al Qaeda message was shot from (this is how I read it) linking at least Anderson to Al Qaeda or to the makers of the 2006 Al Qaeda message.

One better: WHAT IF AL QAEDA DID NOT SEND THAT MESSAGE?

2) The audio proves someone got sick with a strange virus and discloses "something" about CIA flights out of Mallorca

Hoping some audio whiz in here can produce a more audible track...

Again the background of the video has nothing to do with location. ONly so you can see the horse training drill clinton is staring in last months horse and rider magasine . The conversation has everything to do with the al qaeda message. It should show just what I said is the whole thing a scam or is the truth scarier than what theyve told you and more complex. If MAfias were helping extremist then Hopefully it could justify the administrations actions. You cannt tell anyone or even trust your own govrnment because any good mafia has people there also. If theyre scared youll find out about Clinton and pulling the video off the internet that would smell fishie. Agreed?

Originally posted by jitombe

Originally posted by zeusadam
He had a friend that would sell horses to sheiks and double the amounts since they couldnt speak german. Yes you will die soon in fact alot of americans will die soon. After the police raided him he called and threatened me.

I have no idea what your goal is but what is it with the middle sentence? Do you know something we don't, say what you have to say or don't bother saying anything else at all.

I think that middle sentence is suppose to be a quote of the threat. This threat is what he is saying is implying that this guy had fore-knowledge of the events of 9/11. I don't think its a threat we need currently worry about.

I was tossed a bit by that myself at first but reading this guys mess after a while you sorta figure out some of what he is trying to say at times at least.

Humble hello. Came upon this story by chance, and like a lot of you there just seems to be more to it. Even if not it is a hell of a puzzle.

I have not been into this stuff in years and I have no training whatsoever, but I will try to bring this into another shade of coherency for what its worth. Hashed out this list of names/info as best as I could through the day. Sorry no time line, I suck at math. Feel free to correct any mistakes or false leaps of my logic. Question marks are where I wasn't sure.

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Zeusadam - Doug Phipps, famous Horse trainer from Oregon - Steve Ahlberg sent him on a secret mission to Germany in '99 via Gail P. Wright's MKUltra style manipulation - Turned in Andy Schneider (possibly others) that had to do with 9/11/01 while in Europe - Came home to find his work stolen and lies spread about his past few years in Europe

The German girlfriend - 'A setup' - Got pregnant, sick - Featured in the phone conversation on Youtube from '05, she begins in mixed German until Palma de Mallorica is mentioned, at which point her voice changes to an american accent - Mother of Zeusadam's child, it is believed she gets nervous because thats where he lived and where he trained horses when they met - Her father is a coin collector in Rheinback Germany - possibly linked to terrorists, they are afraid of Zeusadam turning them in(?) because he is American(?)

Tal Shani - Met Zeusadam in Israel - previously worked with Elan Rosenberg - Wrote things Zeus said about horse training predating Clinton Anderson's rise to fame and methods used 'word for word' - (half of the photobucket folder)

Jake Arndt - Died in a boating accident - his family helped the original setting up of Clinton Anderson(?)

Dean Maldenado(Maldonado?) - Real Estate agent in Arizona - Daughter found murdered under a bridge - also helped the original setting up of Clinton Anderson(?)

Thomas Mack - Police officer - Owns a ranch in Boring OR - Zeusadam trained his sister in law's horse named Busy Streakin'(?) - Sister in law's son possibly murdered - another helper in the original setting up of Clinton Anderson

Volker Schmidt - German olympic horse rider - Rode Whoisyourdaddy at the 2004 Futurity - Stood with Clinton Anderson at the 2004 Futurity and laughed while Zeusadam while trying to perform after being beaten and his horse drugged

Jim Babbcock - Horse breeder - Ranch and horses used to set Clinton Anderson up - Best friends with Sam Houston

Sarah Resor(sp) - Silver horse ranch - Controlled all contacts to Zeusadam

John Resor - Silver horse ranch - From Wyoming - Sarah's EX - Friend of Cheny - Possible Skull and Bones fundraiser(?)

Andy Schneider - of Hesson Germany - professional kidnapper - sex slave marketeer - German mafia - friends with arabs in Hamberg - knew many things about 9/11 before it happened - Al Qaeda\Osama's recruiter - Clinton Anderson's best friend - Posted horse training advertisment for Zeusadam, possible proof Zeus was in Germany with Andy 8/11/01

Zeusadam's EX (Lizer) - Married Steve Ahlberg's best friend - Parents are wealthy atheists of questionable moral fiber - Family friends with Steve Ahlberg

George Lizer - Real estate agent in Portland OR(?) - Zeusadam's EX's Father of questionable moral fiber - owns a warehouse in Clackmas OR" - Buddies with Steve Ahlberg - quote:"I will pay 1 million for the perfect murder"

Amanda Ross (Lizer?) - Zeusadam's EX's sister

Russ Brown - Rival horse trainer - Wants to 'kick his ass' - Cotrainer married Zeusadam's EX (Lizer?)

Cotrainer - Russ Brown's horse training partner - EX of Terry Ahlberg

Terry - Cotrainer's EX - married Steve Ahlberg - Recorded threatning Zeusadam if he exposed Clinton Anderson

Steve Ahlberg - Special warfare tactician for the navy - Director of Oregon quarter horse - Assigned Zeusadam to secret mission in Germany

Schernoff's cousin - from Texas - Recorded threatning Zeusadam if he exposed Clinton Anderson

(continued)

Michael Schernoff - Mob(?)

Dave Belson - from Arizona - Admitted Clinton Anderson is selling Zeus' training system

John Southwick - Italian mafia - Head or Research for the general board of Gloval Ministries in Ohio - Married Zeusadam's sister and controls his family - Attempted to murder Zeusadam when he called CDC about his sickness

Mary Workman - CIA MKUltra hypnotist

Gail P. Wright - CIA MKUltra controller - best friends with Norm Akin

Norm Akin - OR Homeland Security head guy


Andrea Fallani - Italian mafia - Clinton Anderson's best friend - Famous trainer in California - Selling 'aquired' Zeusadam's horse training techniques

Clinton Anderson - Australian - Famous trainer in Ohio - Selling 'aquired' Zeusadam's horse training techniques

You say you cannot speak/type English very well.

Why don't you type in the language you are most familiar with and one of us can translate it. Perhaps you will make more sense then.

You keep speaking of being in Germany, why don't you explain yourself in German than?

Thanks for that above info...

Well, we are here to help you zeusadam and we will do all that we can, only if we have the information to work with. It is a two-way street, you see.. you can give us names, dates etc. but unless we have hard evidence, it will be tough for us as a team to prove anything at all. I'm not trying to be condescending at all, so I hope you understand and decide to work with us, you seem genuinely worried about this whole thing... it has us worried as well. Please, by all means.. help us to help you.

You stated you had a secret mission to go to Israel to pick up Tal Shani, presumably from Misgav. Who was it that sent you to Israel, what exactly was this job, and how does it relate to your career as a horse trainer? Why would you need to bring her back to the states if so?

A few other things,

How exactly does Sam Houston tie into this picture? Who is he, and what is your knowledge of him?

I realize this is highly sensitive to you, so at your discretion of course... tell us what you will, how we can help, and give us some things to work with here. Most of all, please stay safe.


Respectfully,
T-


(edited for questions)



[edit on 1-4-2008 by telemetry]

Why do I get the feeling we've been had????

Get it? April fools !!!

Cheers

Mungo

[edit on 1/4/2008 by mungodave]

I'm not sure how much further we can get on this mystery when one of the videos we need to be looking at keeps freakin' disappearing.

This is no april fools joke. Urinalcake got it pretty close on some things. Tal shani and many of these people where in security. Tal was a ex girlfriend of one of Israels best massoud agents. Im sorry my english is rusty but I am an American. The only tv I got in english was CNN and my favorite was the guy from comedie central. Ill try to put more tapes up somehow. This really has to do with what the people protecting everyone where really doing during 911, and what was happeng in germany before during and after 911. IM sure you can all agree after hearing the recording that the NSA wiretapps if someone was caught, are important and a good idea. If I can get my computer working and type there maybe my english wil also improve. ALso If Im on antibiotics my mind is much sharper. This is a true story and thank you anyone who elps. If you look at the pictures.. the man praying to god thanks you.

Originally posted by mungodave
Why do I get the feeling we've been had????

Get it? April fools !!!

Cheers

Mungo

[edit on 1/4/2008 by mungodave]

That crossed my mind today, but this is almost a decade in the making. Most of the info I read from simply googling some of the names and events add up. Fabricating or altering all that info from different sources seems like a lot of work for a joke.

You can dig up Doug's website and look at the guest book, the entries go back a few years. The horse events he speaks of, the pictures and rosters, they also go back a few years.

I like what you have brought to this discussion Mungo, some of the puzzle pieces were clearer for me after reading your observations.

My mother was diagnosed with fiber mialgia(sp?) (thought to be connected to or the same as Morgellons) a year or 2 ago and she has the brain fog really bad, so maybe I have a little more practice understanding it. If you haven't noticed, I have a little of it myself

zeusadam,

I need to ask a question for clarification here:

Are you Doug Phipps?

No I have nothing to do with the last post. Zeusadam is horseman in hebrew.

Please address my post above.

My question was: Are you indeed Doug Phipps?