New proof in war on terror. Al Quada message the days are pregnant

if you go back to the start of this thread you will find a few smart people who didnt believe a word doug was saying and after a couple of posts they quit answering ...... so i am going back to the important things in live and let doug talk cause thats the best proof that he is a liar,
to all the others here ..... good luck

I'm gonna be honest. Zeus, I have a stage set here that clearly is of interest to somebody, but I'm still a little unclear of the sequence of events. I'm also curious. At some point you realized you needed to start documenting things.

Something happened that made you start to record what was going on around you. What happened then?

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When I realised that Andy was not going to be busted and that I went through hell for???
Turning points for me...
Gail lying all the time and not able to answer the question "where terrorist attacks stopped?"
A man in Mallorca said one of my triggers " they think there smarter than you"
Sarah here saying " where smarter than all of you.
The threats you heard on the recordings well they admitted it again then.
I figured out that my life and health meant nothing to them compared to covering up about Clinton Anderson.
Taking my Ideas for inventions and not even giving me anything for compensaton while they laughed there ass off saying " what can one man do?"

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It was also the air of superiority, they are smarter and better than the restof us.. being of blue blood...
We the rest of normal humanity are scum to these people it seems they only care about money.. no heart or soul.

Would you say they were... Lizard-hearted?

So you reported Andy for (still a bit unclear) and nothing happened. Did they behave differently towards you? And you saw a need to begin keeping records.

Ok. What was the first thing they did that didn't add up?

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I didnt keep good enough records obviously what I have left is just colateral proof. The sliced open passport should be very convincing though. Andy asked me to work for the arabs in hamberg and for osama before 9-11. What didnt add up at all was the apparent protection of Andy and the pregnant girl, which I was told I am not allowed to see if its my kid. I have more tapes from her that is very conclusive that she does not want me to see the kid or know if its mine and thats the same mentality of the people I mentioned before that just freaked me out. sorry only way to put it.

Ok, Andy asked you to work for Osama. He had some kind of protection along with the pregnant girl. What kind of protection did he and she have?



Ok. I would love to listen to them. Now, this "mentality..." Can you describe it further? Or was it just many people saying they don't know who the father is and you should not see the child?

I fear this child may have found itself born into mind control and worse, if things in this world are as I am beginning to suspect...

Silly question, but what color are your eyes? If I may...

I´m back again. Sorry, at the moment I haven´t so much time to follow this thread. I train my and a friend´s horse with doug´s method. my horse got first kind and trust people after doug rode him. It´s a pitty that he couldn´t ride him for a longer time. but when he had to ride a lot of horse and had to give lessons. how can he be so bad, when he had so much to do? no I ride my horse alone, for sure he is not so good and soft in the mouth as if doug rides him. but I try my best. the most important thing is that I havent to be scared anymore an that we both are getting a great team. I can ride him without a bridle or even a rope arround his neck. he spins, lopes circles, makes rollbacks. he is so cued. doug´s method also wirks for jumping horses, I test it. a friend´s horse was really hard in his mouth, was ridden wrong before and was always scared and his head in the air, no he is really relaxed and soft. I have to be careful not to make a little reiner out of him, then this friend would wonder, if she wants to stpo him and he slides. I want to say with that, that dougs method works with every type of horse and that all horses trust a human being working with dougs method.

at loving america: I´m not dumb or naive. I made much experience with people and I feel if people are good or bad very fast. I spend much more time with doug than u. u don´t know him really an just lies about him. u and that other liars destroy our life and not the other way round

I came across a very interesting article about Monty Roberts, The Horse Whisperer..Here's the link:
citizensforjustice.org...

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YES..YES...YES.....
Gail and Ernie Loren showed up at the same time as the bad things happened to my horses. They where from Salinas California or near and said they did nearly the same thing to another trainer to set him up in business. Gail is a dental assistant and Ernie is a electrician. They own a paint stud Digery do??? The name of the horse will come back to me, Now how to find the trainer they did horrible things to in the making of the great monty roberts.
OOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHH
MONTY ROBERTS WAS A PARTNER ON A HORSE WITH JIM BABBCOCK IT DID WELL AT THE SNAFFLE BIT FUTURITY IN RENO.....
GOD BLESS MISSY

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Protection.. It didnt seem like some people wanted anyone to look there direction. Emails sent to germany to make sure they didnt go to mallorca, The emails where intended for congressmen and senators. If I try to clear the thing with the pregnant girl or the system I was told Id have problems. I recorded this also.

Mentality
Lying, Lying , Lying.. That seemed the mentality. And they where good at it.

Missy and some others can you help me contact these people about this? I try but this computer will not let me through??

Zeus..Look at this link concerning Monty Roberts and a man named Flippin, going into schools teaching children..

citizensforjustice.org...

Here is a link to Monty Roberts allegations, Special Investigative Reports and Lawsuits..

citizensforjustice.org...

Zeus..Here is a link to the book called "Horse Whisperers & Lies"
You can read it free online at this link..I have not read it as of yet..
www.horsewhispersandlies.com...

I've just read 13 pages of this very intriguing thread. I've enjoyed the 13 pages. It's been a mini roller coaster. I don't have time to read all the thread. I will come back tomorrow to read another section. Could somebody be so kind to give a quick summary of what the hell is going on. Many thanks to the op and posters who have contributed so far. Many thanks. And yes I am confused but content.

Well Paul that may be hard for even me, and I have been here since the start. Lets see..
1. World known horse trainer Doug Phipps, had his own system for training horses. He was asked by Steve Alhburg, Ex Navy Seal/CIA, and Dir. of the Oregon Quarter Horse Association, to go on a secret mission for him. Mr. Phipps was in Germany before 911. While there, a man named Andy Schneider (German Mafia) asked Mr. Phipps to work for Osama. (Evidently Andy Schneider was best friends with Clinton Anderson, an unknown Aussie horse trainer, who came to the states and became famous with Mr. Phipps training system, while he was overseas those 8 yrs.) Mr. Phipps came home and reported this to Senator Gordon Smith, and a week later he found himself in Palma De Mallorca Spain, that is where "Rendtion Fights" started. They basically did everything they could to Mr. Phipps, but kill him. Bottom line is Mr. Phipps is probubly not the 1st or last well known horse trainer, whose career was ruined, so that other "Non-American", UNKNOWN cowboys, could move into the states and be an instant star, associating with the very elite, and earning more money than you can imagine. Many say it's a cover for German Mafia, or the likes there of..As far as I can tell, Mr. Phipps has been trying to get someone to hear his story for a long time..His story over the years has never changed...

I came across an article which talks about "Delmart "Mike" Vreeland" a U.S Naval Intelligence Officer, who tried to warn the goverment about the pending attacks that happened on 911..He's been in prison ever since.
Go to this link, and his story begins around the 3rd paragraph...
www.fromthewilderness.com...

Here is another link, this one is about Gary Eitel. He discovered a dark secret about the CIA and they ruined his life..
With these links I'm trying to show that Zeus's story is not so unusual or what some would say.."wacko"
www.theblackvault.com...

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Heh. I do appreciate the effort. But all I needed were the character assassins to clarify for me that something deeper was involved than just one guy stealing another guy's horse training method.

In fact, that was likely an afterthought.

It's been five days since zeus was here... I hope he is ok...

Hey, zeus, you ok?