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Thats right but what about the lies doug already told does they proof that doug is a liar or not ?

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Link it, please. Words are only words grabbed out of it's original meaning when put like that. So, give us that link.


Sura; Im a little to tired to acctually follow this thread at the moment. I beg Pardon for my silentness and hardly existing responses. I'll try to regain some batteries till tomorrow.

o.k have you ever prooven me or anotherreiner with lying ?
No but we did prooven doug a couple times with beeing a liar.
again i ask for the 50 world title horses?
again i ask who stole the system and when?
again i ask for one persons name doug worked for who will not say that doug needs help from a doctor?
again i ask for who sold that system to clinton and when?

The Link:
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tnx.



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[edit on 24-4-2008 by elevatedone]

Thank you. At the moment I'm without dreads tho as showseason is coming up and Even tho I just show for "schooling" I have to look deasent. I'll look up that band a day when I have more brain to work with than tonight.

..and as soon as I can get my own head back into order I'll try to give Some usefull response to this thread. I need to reboot my brain.

Can anyone believe that this thing is 35 pages and counting? I gave up ages ago trying to figure it out (I thought me having chemo brain was the problem, guess not). I really hope that the nights don't become pregnant too! sorry had to say that.

The link above by Lovingamerica..I read the stories on the link and I also noticed the date..They were all posted just days ago..I also did a Doug Phipps search on that forum, and at no other time was his name ever mentioned..I find it odd. If he was such a terrible horse trainer, a danger to children, dosent it seem odd that his name was never mentioned on that forum UNTIL April 20, 2008?
The user on that forum that asked if anyone had heard of him was named "RideAGood1" and has been a member of that forum since 7/8/2003..Not one person ever posted on there about Doug Phipps, UNTIL "RideAGood1" did..then AMAZINGLY, POOF..16 messages follow, all saying he did drugs, messed with kids etc..
If I suspect anything, it's that..
FYI..Zeus has not been responding to your questions, because he put you both on ignore

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You keep saying he has lied, and if he has done any lying, it seems limited to resume embellishment, and is irrelevant.

What that you can prove has he lied about, and please prove it.

Hahaha! I'm not here to determine if ANYONE is lying. I'm here to evaluate the data: offered evidence, stories given, and overall behavior. So far, all data would suggest you have a vested interest in doing a character assassination.

And if that is so, then I conclude you are lying. I don't need much else.



OK, if this is not true and Doug claimed it, it is a resume embellishment. You can quit bringing this up. It is irrelevent.



I'm still unclear on the timeline, but think UrinalCakeWalk and MissysWorld are doing marvelously, and we'll get it untangled. But this is not a proven lie by any stretch of the imagination.



Not knowing anybody he worked for, I'm sure I'm not the one to establish if there were any (or all) who would not. But until you have people who will publicly state that they worked with him and he's a whacko, there is no reason to believe this is anything but a question designed to assassinate character. It also is not an example of a lie.



And again, this is not a proven example of a lie. And again, we're untangling things.

So. The only example of a lie you have is a resume embellishment. And we're throwing that one away and never going there again. So what lies has he told that you can prove?

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ROFL! Yeah... He's obviously not out there now in the horse world, and hasn't been for a while, and just coincidentally NOW is when they just happen to bring him up? And then that is brought back as some kind of EVIDENCE!?!

Oh, oh! My sides ache!

Did we nail it or what?

I don't care if everyone here believes myself or lovingamerica...but there are alot people that do...especially horse people with first hand knowledge. His own WRITTEN slander, lies, bad reputation, and incoherent ramblings are spreading in the "HORSE" world. And will continue to spread. I guess Doug should be happy...afterall he wanted people to know how he was screwed over by everyone...right? Poetic Justice....

~I am done wrestling with this Pig~

we shall see about that....I somehow figure this won't be the last from you two, you are on a mission it seems...

are these "ramblings" of Doug's spreading now because of you two? will they continue to spread through you two into the "horse" world?

anyone want to bet these two are going on different horse forums and posting about doug and ATS? i bet its them

wonder which others they are starting new threads on as well? interesting spin....

Here is another one started around the same time....
interesting coincidence....

In case anyone missed trying this out, here is the craigslist for Bend OR. Go there and type Doug Phipps in the search bar. Found mostly current stuff, people from around here saying good things about him. That may change thanks to our friends, but its interesting to follow either way.

Sorry if i have to ask but are you *SNIP*
how many times do i have to tell you ?
doug tells everywhere that he is the trainer of 50 world title horses and he is the greatest horsemen how could he with a showrecord that says he won 204 $ in his whole live ?
andrea fappani is an open rider since 8 years now winning more than one million dollars. is he worse or better than doug?
doug told everybody in germany that he saw an u.f.o and the next day all horses and cattle where lying bloodles on the ground i have never find an article that proof this.
you can believe doug whatever you want and there are also discussions about him from 2003 saying the same things that he is lying and a whacko.
you can act like his lawyer if you want but i know that there is a big wave rolling now and pretty soon you will find yourself on the looser side
You keep saying he has lied, and if he has done any lying, it seems limited to resume embellishment, and is irrelevant.

What that you can prove has he lied about, and please prove it.

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at least i just wanna say one thing if doug realy says the truth with all this people wanna see him dead and terror, maffia, ex navy seals, israelis, powerful people, sportmillionairs, senators who are against him how come he is still alive ? dont you think if only one word is true of the whole weired story that it is more than easy to catch a horsetrainer with no money to buy medicine in tumalo oregon ?

I say no because everybody involved in this fary tale is laughing and at the end doug has no more place to go.
therfore that you dont wanna get the proof of what i am saying i am shure that you are hired from doug to stand behind him.
i shurely know that justice will win.

For all of you out there who realy wanna find the truth here is a link to all professional horsetrainers with their phonenumbers.
feel free to call one of them to get the right information about doug phipps.
nrha.com...
thank you so far
a german who loves the truth and defend the innocent.
if you dont have a phone like my friend amaterasu i am pretty shure there are public phones in the U.S and finding the truth and saving innocent from bad tongues is worth 20 cent for a call or isnt it ?

I dont know "lovingamerica" from what I've gathered from the links, news stories, the fine investigation done by ats members, the whole horse world seems llke little more than a mafia front of some sort. An elites money laundermat. So yeah I would probably trust them as far as I could ride them.....

I hope you can all clearly see what these two are up to.
1. public destruction of my ability to feed myself. While they offer no proof only lies.
2. If they where honest it would be easyier for them..
You cannot patent a horse training system wich should lead you all to see that again this is character assasination.
3. They sure all wanted me to teach them and there kidds the very system a foreigner is getting credit for on tv.
4. You also can hear 2 referances to a book. Well if Terry Ahlberg is no lyer then there should be one written so I dont have to give a crapp about mr anderson.
5. Lyers.. anyone that wants can do a background check and see I have never done anything wrong.. not even a speeding ticket for 9 years.
6. theyre right slander in the horse community flies faster than a jet. They even admitted they want to make sure I am slandered worldwide. Its obvious that if I was no threat on back of a horse they wouldnt need to do this.
7. They showed up here to distract you from the terry ahlberg audio recording.
"can I write a book, about your issues? (you see these two giving me the issues here) no my adventures.. yes just change the names.. well If they did nothing wrong here in usa setting this up then americca needs some hometown heros about now if they are hiding the fact that they where setting up scamms before 9-11 then they would react exactly like they did.
8. the day another reiner said something about my living conditions then boom I was asked to move. so yes now soon I will be homeless and no money for food. And where I was riding a horse the man blew in the horses nose then spit in her face. You see the neuro pathway training that I developed from reading the bible statrs with blow in the horses nose then kiss them again and again until the horse kisses you back. The same way we remember a phone number. Make a kissing face and see what emotion you feel. The horse may think Im goofy but they wont be scared.
9. I also found out with 8 years of this if someone hits your horse on the legg with a hammer and slices there face with a razor blade if the owner is a part of this there is nothing you can do.