This entire thread is making my head hurt. What does a pregnant horse have to do with Bin Laden? Whatever top secret cure was available to you, you either took too much or not enough... Either way, I need some now too.

Originally posted by KaiBosh
This entire thread is making my head hurt. What does a pregnant horse have to do with Bin Laden? Whatever top secret cure was available to you, you either took too much or not enough... Either way, I need some now too.

Lol. I have been been seriously trying to decipher this guy. I am just as confused as you. It seems he was a horsetrainer for the elites and was offered a job with osama. All the while some guy named Steve Ahlberg hangs out with his ex-gf...But he is special tactics, so he's important.

I don't know. will follow it though and see what comes.

Who is pregnant, the horse or your freinds girlfreind? What does horse training have to do with 9/11? Are you sick or your ex girlfreind, your freinds girlfreind , or the horse? Are you supposed to be an American or a German or what? I tell ya, I am gonna have to say this is the most confusing thread I have ever read! How bout it zues, narrow down what you are trying to say here, I am getting one thing for sure, you don't like this clinton anderson guy, maybe he got your horse pregnant? LOL!

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[edit on 31-3-2008 by space cadet]

Uh... so...

9/11 was a secret plot by your pregnant ex-girlfriend to steal your horse training program?

Originally posted by mattifikation
Uh... so...

9/11 was a secret plot by your pregnant ex-girlfriend to steal your horse training program?

I think what hes trying to say in a nutshell is that the ex navy seal commodore offered him a job for bin laden pre 911 and he didnt take it/believe him. then 911 happened, he turned him in, and got retaliated upon with death threats and bilogical weapons that made him unable to type coherently (somehow). Somehow the girl being pregnant was part of the background scam, which is them selling his horse training methods on video.

kind of doesent make sense because if i was selling most of the worlds heroin, i wouldnt need to scam someone for their horse training knowledge to be sold on video.

When you say Andy Schneider, do you really mean to say Andy Strassmeier, the German supposedly linked to the Oklahoma bombing? You mentioned Nazis as well, so I'm just putting it out there.

The horse training was used to finance my torture the last 7 years it sems. My ex girlfriend married steves best friend. Her family is extremely rich atheists... she was bisexual so I threw her that and her father always said he would pay a million dollars to commit the perfect murder.. real sick mentality. E owns a warehouse in clackamas.

Now that part really confused me..

[edit on 31-3-2008 by Spreadthetruth]

sounds like someone with personal vendettas against certain people is throwing their names into public any way possible, with a completely made up story that makes no sense.

or maybe the guy is just mad because his horse training program didnt sell well, and now their using it to train Guantanamo Bay & CIA's secret prisoners? lol ..

... huh...


its like a drunk game of Clue

The You tube video is all about the conversation taking place in the backround.

It's a shame it's full of static, because he overdubbed it onto a horse training video (I guess so it wouldn't be found out so quickly).

I wish the OP could give us a transcript of exactly what is being said in the "pregnant lessons" video.

Also it really sounds like they went inside this guys brain, and went to town. Full labotomy ect. His typing and way of putting thoughts together, I don't believe could be hoaxed. I feel bad for the guy if he is indeed sick.

I just don't get the cowboy training and big money connections. Are these training methods that top secret that they are worth huge amounts of $$$ overseas. Kinda like that one Arab Shiek guys breeding book was in that movie Hidalgo?

I'm sure breeding teqniques and training methods could be worth a large amount of money, enough to blackmail someone with, but nothing to do 9-11 over.

But it seems they are just being used to possibly discredit this guy, or maybe it's just a paranoid delusion in HIS mind as a result of the mental torture, or sickness he has.

Very sad really, if true. Because it seems if they didn't turn this mans brain into soup, he'd have some very important things to relay to us. He seems to be trying very hard too. I dunno, for some reason, I believe this man went through something, and was messed with for whatever the reasons may be. I dunno why. Although some of his talk sounds like stuff out of a cheesy spy novel. *shrug*


Please Zeusadam, can you try to write a transcript of what is being said in the backround of the pregnant lessons video?

Or maybe some audio expert here at ATS, can block out the actual training video audio, and just leave us with the over dubbed "hidden" conversation, and then maybe it can be translated. Only toward the end does it start to remotely resemble the English language, but then again, the conversation is very hurried, and of very poor and static filled quality.

Anyways, thanks Truth4Hire for all the effort you've put into this, and makeing this story get somewheres (where exactly I don't know), but thanks for your efforts.

In closing, whether your story is true or fals, I do Hope your health improves Zeusadam. Perhaps you have some family or friends that can help you with the medications you need? Or is this like top secret antibodies, that aren't even supposed to exist? I'd understand then if you wouldn't want your family or friends involved in black market medicines.

Best of Luck to you. Gotta respect a true Cowboy if you are; it's a damn shame if someone did this to your mind, through disease or messing with your head, or what have you.

I don't understand a darn thing he's getting at. Many of you have fragmented together things from his posts but honestly I'm not sure if I'm coming or going right now?

How would someone take a revolutionary way of training horses and make themselves rich? What was so unique about it?

I just don't understand what he is getting at so how can any agency discern it?

1. I hope to find people to elp me put tis truue story together. 2. Its a phone Im typing with. It types like it wants. 3. If you tell a true about how our shadow gov really works youd sound crazy too. Im just hurt and sick. 4. The ex shows how much misery money can give a man after all her family always said if you have enough money it makes you a god. 5. When your rival competitors have someone like steve ahlberg on there side it makes them above the law. 6. THe videos of the way I trained showed up on tv with clinton anderson.. word for word he is a scam. 7. The pregnant girl was a setup while in germany . 8. P
resident Bush called it intel gathering methods and how to finance them. So I was the guy living overseas the last 8 years. But these people only care about making money with clinton anderson. 9. That tape talks abouit being sick.. in german.. the last part she freaks. mallorca why do you have conections to a man from mallorca.. she gets very serious. 10. This is a true story of what the people protecting us all where really doing.

If you look where I point you can see if the whole war on terror is a scam. THE TAPE SAYS... WIE GETS DIA? (HOW ARE YOU) YOUR ALWAYS SAYING YOUR HEAD AND NOSE ARE SICK ARE YOU SICK? YA MINA HULSE(SKIN) mALLORCAN MAYBE i stay here and make war wish these arses or maybe i go live in the sun mallorca. mallorca why do you have conections to a man from mallorca? he said hed give me work... is that bad? its funny...
well the rendition flights where organised there. Also one of the recordings the man says I am not allowed to clear the thing with this girl or id get trouble . The girls father is a coin collector in rheinback he bought as much of a computer called mosaik as possible. Its a muslim software company in rheinback germany. you must all also know the iraq oil for food investigation into pharmecutical companies.

In my first post I thought you were of a foreign language, but you said cell, so, that is hard for making paragraph breaks. Maybe you can see if you have the T9 auto-word thingie and turn it on to help with spelling.

Other than that, you can go to nearly any public library and use their computers to go online. Even small towns in the middle of nowhere have a public library with a few PCs in it. It may help in leaps and bounds to get your message out with a keyboard and time better than a small keypad on a phone.


Others are doing great research to help you out and putting forth great effort. I will leave it with them, I just wanted to give the friendly advice of libraries (oh, and internet cafes in bigger cities).


Keep trying to explain yourself, eventually though collective collaboration, people will get the message.


Just answer one thing directly, please. Are you saying that there is a new video out, that is pointing toward a new and possibly soon upcoming event we need to keep our eyes open to?

Thank you.

Originally posted by zeusadam
I sent all this and more to senator Gorden Smith of oregon. I was surprised he did not share any of the 50 pages with pictures hours of recordings with his democratic counterparts.

You shouldn't be surprised. Even here on ATS where people are willing to give you the benefit of the doubt you have failed to do anything but leave us scratching our heads.


Listen, I'm not trying to be rude here and I'll try to help. If it sounds critical at times, lets call it constructive criticism with the aim of trying to help you piece this together.

No one can follow your story. Its all over the place. It seems like you're just typing a stream of consciousness without looking at it before you hit "reply". Also, maybe its your excitement or your zeal, but you come across like someone who has only a loose grasp of the English language. Your grammar is juvenile and what may seem clear to you is obviously very unclear to us.

First of all, slow down. Pretend that we're all 12 years old and need this spelled out for us carefully. Pretend you're the teacher giving a lesson. Prepare this ahead of time, type it out in something like Microsoft Word. Clean up the grammar and spelling, and carefully detail for us how any of this is related to 9/11.

Good luck.

Im hopin to find people that will help .me organie this so it is understandable . Lets go to 1999 Israel. The pictures are on photobucket. The girl there is Tal Shani from misgov am. Er father was killed in front of her by hezbollah when she was a little girl. She was in charge of security for south africa after aparteid. Those pictures come from the sea of galile. The new testiment in the bible. 2001 a month before 911 again look on photobucket. OUr country was this close at least to stopping the attacks. Andy Schneider of hesson germany was friends of the arabs in hamberg and recruiting for osama before and after 911. Lets go to mallorca 2007. The head of antiterror at the palma de mallorca airports name was gerimo. He was a good man. He asked if the spanish could interview me and look at my evidence against andy schneider. He was told no. I also have a passport that was sliced open by andy before 911 my name was almost on the passenger list. In mallorca they found out I had a tape of andy schneiders at a :friends house in sandy oregon. They the un people walked around like they got hit in the stomach.. the tape disapeared and my friend gave it to ahlbergs people. his wifes family is giusto in gresham. Look at there sucess. Theyre Italian and indian. After my so called friend lost the andy tape they walked around with there chests puffed out..... The French, German, Austrian, Italian and spanish intelligence agencys know I tell the truth. You should know also. ONce you know mafias are involved with the extremist I hope the aministration comes out woth what I went through and you all can walk a mile in my boots. You all talk about how confusing my posts are, arnt you also more confused by the war on terror and the adinistrations actions? ITs one or the other.. If my live is not worth more than a foreign national seling my intellectual property on tv then you can be sure its all a scam. Now be warned I hope president Bush himself is vindicated from what I went through. But since I am desperate enough to post things here I dont hold my breath. The tape should be adresed in the NSA wiretapps, andy schneider and clinton anderson and friends should either explain some things or be in prison. Now aso as I put names out there and some poor soul who lost a loved one asks these people.. use a hand held lie dtector(the truster) and you will know
i speak the truth.

I am just going to come straight out and say this, flames be damned.

Nothing in this post is coherent or substantiated and furthermore the OP is throwing around names of supposedly actual people. All attempts to help or assist the OP have failed and result only in more confusion. It's painful to read. This is a train wreck and should be moved to the trash can.

I hope this really is just a prank but I am concerned that it's not. All the best to you OP, may your path be easy and your burdens light.

God gives everyone gifts. Mine is not writing and since I have lived the war on terror for the last years, speaking nearly every language but english. I forget that all of you need alot of catchup. I hope someone heres gift is writing and all of you have something to do with all of this coming into the open. My gift is teaching horsemanship. I taught Hubert Huele while in france he won this years American Congress reining horse show. What if you came home from all of this and more to find that the very people protecting all of you where selling your unique system you spent your life developing? What if they said We are just smarter than the rest of you? theres nothing one man can do? There is no god its not your baby havent you heard about clinton anderson? ha ha ha... And what if it was the people around a ex of yours that did this right in the midle of 911? You can address all the war on terror here. You should be helping write our senators and congressmen.. Did this American go through this so terror attacks where stopped or to set up scams like clinton anderson. Where people he turned in on the rendition flights? Did the NSA use that recording to catch bad guys? If so Why can you and your children learn directly from this man instead of a cheap copy from a foreigner? This man taught a founding father of Israels grandson to ride his best friend a son of the main general for the israeli army, german and european police and secret polices kidds, The kidds of most intel around the world. WHy cannt you all learn it from the man that did the work?