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Obama Could Make Case for Slavery Reparations at U.N.

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posted on Mar, 30 2008 @ 04:55 PM
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Obama Could Make Case for Slavery Reparations at U.N.


www.aim.org

Wright’s talk, “A Call for Justice and Repair,” followed a statement in which he declared that “The Biblical principle of true repentance is that the offended party is given compensation to make up for that which has been stolen from them, the losses that have been inflicted upon them and their families.”
A reparations plan for blacks could extract several trillion dollars from American taxpayers’ pockets.
(visit the link for the full news article)




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posted on Mar, 30 2008 @ 04:55 PM
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What about reparations to the native Americans, mexicans, etc etc. This list could go on and on.






www.aim.org
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Mar, 30 2008 @ 05:00 PM
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Normally I would say, aint no way in hell this will pass. It would take a full bore, filibuster proof, left wing sweep to get reparations passed.
Then I was thinking three of the most powerful chairmen in Congress are Rangel from Harlem, Conyers from Detroit and Waxman from LA. Conyers is going full bore on reparations. Rangel writes the tax code. Quite possible those three could pay off enough people to ram reparations through.

But then again, this may all be another con to get "black folks" to the polls and keep them on the plantation. Dangle out hope of another check.


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posted on Mar, 30 2008 @ 05:12 PM
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When does this reparations thing stop.....I mean really there was something about Americans paying for the Holocaust as well.


As for the whole slave thing, I didn't own them and my children didnt own them why should I/they be responsible for something that happened in the past that we had no control over.

Exactlly how many true slaves are there still alive?

Oh wait I'm a Slave to the system I want reparations!!!!!



posted on Mar, 30 2008 @ 05:21 PM
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I say they go sail over to Africa, find out who the ancestors of the slave traders were, and ask THEM for reperations. They are the ones that sold other Africans into slavery, they are the ones who started the slave trade, and they should be the ones who ultimately pay.

I'm sick of people trying to get free hand outs. And why does reperations have to be money? What ever happened to "I'm sorry."? Actually, I think we've been trying to cater to the whole ancestors of slaves idea for much too long already, its a dead horse, stop beating it.

Now, if there is any former slaves who are currently alive - then yes, I do believe they should get some sort of reperations, but just because your great-great-great grandfathers uncles third cousin was a former slave does NOT entitle you to ANYTHING.

Just my two cents.



posted on Mar, 30 2008 @ 05:36 PM
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Originally posted by deadline527
I'm sick of people trying to get free hand outs.

Me too.

And why does reperations have to be money?

And why does anyone call it 'reparations for slavery' when that's not what it is?

As for reparations for injustice and the such that have happened through the years ... that's why there are all the social programs in place. They help poor people of EVERY skin color and creed.

Geeeeeeeeeze ... this Obama .....



posted on Mar, 30 2008 @ 05:40 PM
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As long as the UN pays for it I don't give a damn.

Like Master_Wii properly stated, what about every other group that has a "legitimate" claim for past damages.



posted on Mar, 30 2008 @ 05:46 PM
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Originally posted by hinky
As long as the UN pays for it I don't give a damn.

Yes, but we are a major contributor to the UN budget .. so it still comes from us hard working Americans who had nothing to do with slavery. It's still just a shake down.



posted on Mar, 30 2008 @ 06:10 PM
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More predictable guilt by association using Obama's church and political allies in Chicago urban politics.

He's never endorsed the idea of reparations, and he's had a public forum to do so for years.

I think we're going to see "guilt by association" as the primary tactic for the attempted SwiftBoating of Barak Obama.

Personal attacks on the man, or his policy positions (which are pretty moderate) don't seem to be working, so the new tactic is to lump him in with "scary black radicals" to stoke the fears of white voters.

Transparently racist, totally predictable, and depressingly underhanded.



posted on Mar, 30 2008 @ 06:10 PM
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This call for any reparations is disgusting. As has already been correctly pointed out, where would the list stop?

How about those of us from European Descent whose ancestors came here to escape religious persecution? Or those who were once serfs?

The US has worked hard in the past 40 years to fix the inequities of the past through the Civil Rights movement. And while slavery was a terrible, horrible way of life, the descendants of those slaves have arguably had a better life here in the US then they ever would of had in Africa. So for all the terribleness of slavery, there was at least that positive to come of it.



posted on Mar, 30 2008 @ 06:18 PM
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Originally posted by Master_Wii
What about reparations to the native Americans, mexicans, etc etc. This list could go on and on.


Seriously. The U.S. government forcefully took this country from Native Americans and attempted to whipe them out via genocide in the process... I understand that slavery was a terrible thing but it pales in comparison to how many millions of Natives died and the sheer quantity of land stolen.

If Obama wants to make reparations for one broken treaty people are going to bring up the hundreds of others.



posted on Mar, 30 2008 @ 06:25 PM
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Originally posted by xmotex
I think we're going to see "guilt by association" as the primary tactic for the attempted SwiftBoating of Barak Obama.


You may be right! I didn't even care whether Obama really endorsed the idea... I just assumed that it's part of his opinion.

Yikes. Maybe Obama has already been swift-boated... I still feel he will win the election though.



posted on Mar, 30 2008 @ 06:31 PM
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"One group, the African World Reparations and the Repatriation Truth Commission is demanding $777 trillion". With a T? How did they come to that number?
Seriously $777 trillion how much money is that?

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posted on Mar, 30 2008 @ 06:37 PM
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There must be a reparation flu going on.

Florida Apologizes for Slaver y, Gov. Mulls Reparations


The Florida State Legislature passed a resolution Wednesday that expressed "profound regret" for the state's role "in sanctioning and perpetuating involuntary servitude upon generations of African slaves," prompting the state's governor to say it might be time for reparations



posted on Mar, 30 2008 @ 06:47 PM
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I'll be honest with you XMotex, I don't trust him anymore than I do Hillary or McCain. They all have their personal agendas to put forth, and Obama's innercircle of endorsers really turn me off. i.e. Al Sharpton, Louis Farrakhan, The New Black Panthers, and the Reverend Wright just for starters. He doesn't even use his real name Baraka Hussein Obama..

Hillary is no better with the Whitewater Scandal looming in her background and her frequent lying about even inconsequential things like Bosnia.

McCain is a senile Warmonger that seeks to destroy all the imagined enemies of Israel, and has no inkling as to how to fix the economy.

It's not always about a person's skin color as you'd have us believe, it's about character.



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posted on Mar, 30 2008 @ 06:50 PM
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I was thinking if one state start the precedent others will follow. Certainly the southern states like LA., Mississippi, Georgia, S.C and Alabama this would be easier to float than a state like NH or Iowa.

How much would be fair. Just a apology? Money? If so how much?I think most common folk would say $300 and a gallon of gas is fair. Is this 40 acres and a mule in disguise?



The award—a land grant of a quarter of a quarter section (one square mile) deeded to heads of households presumably formerly owned by land-holding whites—was the product of Special Field Orders, No. 15, issued January 16, 1865 by Maj. Gen. William T. Sherman, which applied to black families who lived near the coasts of South Carolina, Georgia and Florida. Sherman's orders specifically allocated "the islands from Charleston, south, the abandoned rice fields along the rivers for thirty miles back from the sea, and the country bordering the St. Johns river, Florida." There was no mention of mules in Sherman's order, although the Army may have distributed them anyway. Federal and state homestead grants of the time ranged from 1/4 section up to a full section.


After the assassination of President Abraham Lincoln, his successor, Andrew Johnson, revoked Sherman's Orders

Wiki 40 acres and a mule


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posted on Mar, 30 2008 @ 07:37 PM
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I was sitting here thinking of a reply when suddenly the theme song from The Jeffersons came into my head. (weird)

My reply for these slave reparations would be that if any of these slaves are still alive; they don't need anything because they are already immortal. Otherwise his logic would dictate that anything that's also against each other is also. This sounds like a pipe dream...if you know what I mean.

Besides, Obama wouldn't be including Wright into his cabinet anyway.......or would he? Nah.

I was homeless in Chicago several years ago after 9/11 and I'm almost certain I was at some shelter where both Wright and Obama were there and Wright told the homeless people there who were mostly black, that if they didn't go back to work, that God was going to evict them from their bodies. Then some guy next to me yelled out Obama for president. Maybe it was a different Obama and Wright? I actually thought at the time they were federal agents.

If Obama does become president, I still wonder how much he could actually do for blacks in a white established government. There has to be an element of fairness and equality we still haven't seen yet, especially when it comes to the poor and education. There has to be some realistic alternatives than spouting about dollar sign values for alleged past abuses. If the government hadn't been involved in the Iraq war, doesn't mean these other things would have been done by now either.

Do you think President Bush will ever write a book: If I hadn't done it



posted on Mar, 30 2008 @ 07:53 PM
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Reparations for slavery were payed already. They were payed in blood. Lots and lots of blood. The same generation that allowed slavery payed for it with the deaths of their children. Anyone that knows their history can tell you how horrific the The American Civil War actually was.

Reparations for slavery are owed to this generation? STUPID!



posted on Mar, 30 2008 @ 08:02 PM
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So wait a minute. They got FREED, and we have to pay for it? Another thing, why the heck should I have to pay because somebody's great-great grandpappy picked cotton? My family came over in 1911, AFTER slavery.

So let me see here. The Indians have casinos, of which is their way of getting "reparations" from the white man. The Mexicans come over the fence and take our jobs and get their "reparations" from the white man. The asians immigrate from places that we've bombed the hell out of, and get some awesome tax breaks, again "reparations" from the white man. The black people, who a great number of, kill each other, blame white people, and say GD America, want our money?



posted on Mar, 30 2008 @ 08:04 PM
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I say give it to them and settle the score that was achieved by previous generations of evil people. Once and for all the playing field would be somewhat more leveled and many of the bad feelings will dissipate.

I have always believed that everyone is created equal and will never accept punishment for something people not of my ancestry nor of my time have done to another people. But on the same hand these are my neighbors and my fellow countrymen and if they feel as if this would make things right then I`m all for it.

Blacks were wronged for a long time and thats the bottom line. Break it down however you like but blacks were wronged and it has effected generations in numerous ways. Maybe a settlement with black Americans of American slave ancestry will help many people to see we are not this same divisive society and that white people just as well as blacks long for the day we can finally put this ugly period completely in the past and move on and stand together against our true enemies.

I long for the day when my white daughter can achieve success and not be looked down upon by some black people who think she had it easy or that she thinks she is better then them.

I long for the day when my black godson can walk down a street with some white people and not one of them has an anxious feeling nor thinks they are better then him because of the color of skin.

The government spends trillions on destruction and murder in the form of wars for whatever reasons all the time and then turns around and spends trillions more on building the same destructed areas back up.

Its time to spend some trillions in our own backyard. So what if its only being spent on one group of people. Believe it or not its going to pay off for everyone in many ways.

What goes around comes around sooner or later. While it would be nice to see the government confiscate some funds from companies that were built and prospered on the backs of American slaves it is highly unlikely and far easier to just spend some tax money in our own neighborhood and help maybe finally bring closure to many.



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