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Is the Pope a Catholic ?

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posted on Feb, 23 2004 @ 03:20 PM
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This is an interesting article for anyone wondering about the current state of the Catholic Church. If true, it may well explain a few things about the church that some find difficult to digest.

Is the Pope a Catholic?

On New Years Day 2004 Pope John Paul II called for a "new world order... based on the goals of the United Nations." When a world leader uses this terminology, it can only mean one thing. He is a part of the Luciferian conspiracy to create a totalitarian world government.

According to Piers Compton, a former Catholic priest, the Papacy was actually subverted by the Illuminati in 1958 when John XXIII became Pope. This was the culmination of a 200-year campaign to infiltrate and destroy the Catholic Church ...

In 1783, the Illuminati assumed control of much of Freemasonry, which secretly coordinated the revolutionary movement (Liberalism, Socialism, and Communism) ...

The Illuminati regarded the Catholic Church as their chief enemy and marked it for ruin ...

Cardinal Giovanni Montini, who succeeded John XXIII as Pope Paul VI in 1963, was ... a Freemason and socialist ...

Paul VI also embraced a sinister symbol used by Satanists in the Sixth Century, which had been revived by Vatican Two.

This was a bent or broken cross on which was displayed a repulsive and distorted figure of Christ. Black magicians and sorcerers in the Middle Ages had used it for occult purposes. It represented the "Mark of the Beast." ...



"Yet not only Paul VI but also his successors the two John Pauls carried that object and held it up to be revered by crowds who had not the slightest idea that it stood for the anti Christ."

On Nov. 27, 1983 Pope John Paul II issued a Papal Bull that legalized secret society membership for Roman Catholics.


Is the Pope a Catholic - Full article




posted on Feb, 23 2004 @ 03:23 PM
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So I guess the Dalai Lama is in on the gig also

www.tibet.com...

"However, I believe that a "new world order" cannot truly emerge unless it is matched by a "new world freedom." Order without freedom is repression. Freedom without order is anarchy. We need both a new world order that prohibits aggression and a new world freedom that supports the liberty individuals and nations."

Only the watered down version....

But all these people have said it also

www.konformist.com...

[Edited on 23-2-2004 by NetStorm]



posted on Feb, 23 2004 @ 03:31 PM
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Originally posted by NetStorm
So I guess the Dalai Lama is in on the gig also

www.tibet.com...

"However, I believe that a "new world order" cannot truly emerge unless it is matched by a "new world freedom."


Unfortunately the NWO are against the basic freedoms due to every human being. Hence the fact that so many dislike the idea of a one world government.



posted on Feb, 23 2004 @ 03:34 PM
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Originally posted by Pisky

Originally posted by NetStorm
So I guess the Dalai Lama is in on the gig also

www.tibet.com...

"However, I believe that a "new world order" cannot truly emerge unless it is matched by a "new world freedom."


Unfortunately the NWO are against the basic freedoms due to every human being. Hence the fact that so many dislike the idea of a one world government.


If corruption at country-level governments can be tolerated and controlled by the world at large, corruption in a world-wide government may not be so easily overcome, and may spawn a form of "communism" or "fascism" that will lead to global destruction.

Besides, we may already have a one-world government for many years, it is just secret for the time being



posted on Feb, 23 2004 @ 03:35 PM
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Pisky,

I too question what is going on in that church, especially when the signs are obvious that they are not what many of their followers think they are.



posted on Feb, 23 2004 @ 03:52 PM
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Neo - this may interest you

According to Eric Jon Phelps (author of Vatican Assassins), John-Paul II is not the power behind the Vatican. That 'honour' belongs to the so-called 'Black Pope'.

The 'Black Pope' is a nickname given to the Superior-General of the Society of Jesus (The Jesuits). It may relate to the fact that he wears a black cassock, or may imply secret and dark knowledge.

From an interview with the author, originally published in 'Specturm Magazine':

Rick Martin: Today, who is the Superior General of the Jesuits, the so-called "Black Pope" [black here refers to hidden, evil activities, not to race or color] who gives the orders to the actual Pope. Is it still Jean-Baptist Janssens?

Eric Jon Phelps: Janssens, Frenchman. No, he passed away in 1964. Then Pedro Arrupe came to power. Then, after Arrupe died, in 1988, I believe, the present Jesuit General is Count Hans Kolvenbach. [See photo nearby.] I call him Count Hans Kolven hoof.

Martin: Lets discuss this position of "General" and, in addition, who is this person, Count Hans Kolvenbach? Who does he serve? What are his origins? Where does he hail from?

Phelps: The present General is a Dutchman, his nationality is Dutch.

Martin: Where is he? Physically, where is he?

Phelps: He resides in Rome, at the headquarters of the Jesuits, called the Church of Jesu. So, the Jesuit General resides in Rome at, what I just called, the Jesuit headquarters.

Martin: The Church of Jesu, is that near the Vatican?

Phelps: Its not far from the Vatican, right. Its in the same general area. Its headquarters of the Knights of Malta.

Martin: Is it part of Vatican City, proper?

Phelps: Right, I believe, yes it is.

Martin: Where does Satan fit into this picture, and what is the ultimate goal of the Jesuits, the so-called Society of Jesus?

Phelps: The Jesuit General, and the other high Jesuit Generals, they are sorcerers. They are Luciferians, and they worship what they would call Lucifer. They do not believe in Satan. They believe in Lucifer.

Now, according to Alberto Rivera, he was invited "because he was a top Jesuit at the time in the late 60s - he was invited to a "Black Mass" in Spain where there were quite a few top Jesuit Generals present. And he called it a "Black Mass". Well, when youre involved in a "Black Mass", youre involved in the worship of Lucifer, all dressed in their black capes and so on.

Continued



posted on Feb, 23 2004 @ 03:56 PM
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Originally posted by Pisky
The 'Black Pope' is a nickname given to the Superior-General of the Society of Jesus (The Jesuits). It may relate to the fact that he wears a black cassock, or may imply secret and dark knowledge.


Ever see "The Order"? They bring this up.
Having gone to a Jesuit school (Colegio La Salle) I know from experience how "secretive" and "under the table" Jesuits have been and are.
They are one of the scarier offshoots (not counting the nuns of course
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posted on Feb, 23 2004 @ 03:57 PM
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look at the cross on the back of his chair







posted on Feb, 23 2004 @ 04:04 PM
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Here is the reasoning for the upside down cross.
(Peter being the first "pope")

"Occasionally the pope is associated with an upside down cross, which is a satanic symbol. One such occasion was the Papal Mass for Youth on March 24, 2000, in which John Paul II sat upon a chair with the satanic inverted cross.
While many satanic sects do use the inverted cross, the Catholic Church uses it as a symbol for Peter, the first pope. It is Church tradition that Peter was crucified in Rome. However, it is also tradition that he told his executioners that he was unworthy to die the same way as the Lord, so they crucified him upside down. For this reason, the inverted cross is a symbol for Peter, and for the papacy."

www.grigaitis.net...



posted on Feb, 23 2004 @ 04:05 PM
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Pisky~~thanks for those two links. There is only so much time in the day, and too much to learn.
I've bookmarked them for this evening.

But, I've got to tell you, the Catholic Church is not what it appeared to be for far longr than 200 years.
The powers behind the Church have been running the show from day one.
For example, women did not possess a soul until the 1500s. What a wonderful way to subjugate women.



posted on Feb, 23 2004 @ 04:05 PM
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wow. you learn something new everyday!



posted on Feb, 23 2004 @ 04:07 PM
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Originally posted by DontTreadOnMe
Pisky~~thanks for those two links. There is only so much time in the day, and too much to learn.
I've bookmarked them for this evening.

But, I've got to tell you, the Catholic Church is not what it appeared to be for far longr than 200 years.
The powers behind the Church have been running the show from day one.
For example, women did not possess a soul until the 1500s. What a wonderful way to subjugate women.


You have it all wrong. God just decided to give women souls in 1500's duh! Catholic church is ALWAYS right!



posted on Feb, 23 2004 @ 04:14 PM
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How do we know for a fact there is a NWO and that it is dedicated to removing our freedoms?..



posted on Feb, 23 2004 @ 04:19 PM
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Originally posted by browha
How do we know for a fact there is a NWO and that it is dedicated to removing our freedoms?..


It's like everything else. You have to draw your own conclusions. There are thousands of web pages out there that talk about a NWO/World Conspiracy/Illuminati etc. There are just as many that dispute it.
I just think it is human nature to mistrust those that are "in control"



posted on Feb, 24 2004 @ 04:25 PM
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This is old news. The beast is the post Csar casar, the Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire, the Merovingean bloodline. It is his image which is worshipped in churches all over the world as Jesus. Below you see an animation showing the obvious:



Blessings,
Mikromarius



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