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Alien communities on Earth?

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posted on Sep, 12 2009 @ 10:21 PM
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Originally posted by TallWhites
The 'TallWhites' live in Nevada near Indian Springs.
You can google them and find out more


I think I found what you are talking about. First I've heard of it. Fascinating.

Charles Hall enlisted in the Air Force in 1964. After completing weather training school, he was sent to Nellis Air Force base in March of 1965. During the two years he was stationed there, he says, “I spent most of my time as the duty weather observer at the gunnery ranges up at Indian Springs. And while I was up there, I discovered that there was a base that the U. S. government maintains for a group of aliens that I call the Tall White Aliens.” Hall details his encounters in a three book series entitled Millennial Hospitality.

Hall claims that from Indian Springs, if you look straight north up the Indian Springs Valley, and a bit to the east, you’ll find their main base in those mountains. (The location is known as Area 54.) From the same vantage point looking west, the other set of peaks contain the Tall Whites’ living quarters. “They live underground and the entrances to their living area are a set of tunnels.” Hall claims. The location is so secret “that in 1965, I had a map put out by the U.S. Geological Service, and all it would show for that place was a white spot marked ‘unexplored territory.’” The map didn’t even contain the mountains!


Source and rest of story


Here is Indian Springs, NV and the surrounding area. Curious...




Cheers,

Erik

[edit on 22/SeppmSat, 12 Sep 2009 22:25:53 -0500/08 by redwoodjedi]

[edit on 22/SeppmSat, 12 Sep 2009 22:26:32 -0500/08 by redwoodjedi]




posted on Sep, 12 2009 @ 10:22 PM
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Sorry, I couldn't help it...when I heard "Tall Whites"...

Okay, late night sense of humor aside, how do you know that these are "aliens"? What if they are very terrestrial?

All jokes aside I have wanted to investigate the possibility of reptilians. Do I believe they exist? 1% chance in my brain of their existence, but I would love to take a road trip with people curious enough to explore the possibility.

As for other aliens...neh not so much. Especially not if they look like us. Takes all the fun out.



posted on Sep, 12 2009 @ 10:36 PM
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Originally posted by A Fortiori
reply to post by redwoodjedi
 


Sorry, I couldn't help it...when I heard "Tall Whites"...

Okay, late night sense of humor aside, how do you know that these are "aliens"? What if they are very terrestrial?

All jokes aside I have wanted to investigate the possibility of reptilians. Do I believe they exist? 1% chance in my brain of their existence, but I would love to take a road trip with people curious enough to explore the possibility.

As for other aliens...neh not so much. Especially not if they look like us. Takes all the fun out.


Man, I have no idea whatsoever if aliens exist. I have so many theories on this and that but, like everybody else, nothing concrete. I have undertaken a massive project that is much bigger than this single thread. If you look at my profile, you will see that I have been here for a while but have not created that many threads. There is a reason and method behind my madness. Except for the Reiki Thread and the Research Equipment Thread (but not entirely discounting them) I slowly intend to marry all of the remaining threads together as solid information allows. It could take months, years or it may never happen. I am trusting my gut and pouring through tons of information with my BS meter on high. Daunting to say the least. I am hell bent to show that all Paranormal Phenomena are all one and the same phenomenon. Told you. Daunting...Ugh! But that is the jist of it. When it's all done and if it's all done, I will publish my findings for all to read or they can do the mundane task of simply limping along with me as I either hit paydirt or a dead end. Ech!

Some of it is quite humorous, though! But I never negate anything until I have picked it apart thoroughly. Only then can I with my best foot forward say that something doesn't add up.

Cheers,

Erik



posted on Sep, 12 2009 @ 10:43 PM
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Originally posted by A Fortiori
reply to post by redwoodjedi
 


*snip*

All jokes aside I have wanted to investigate the possibility of reptilians. Do I believe they exist? 1% chance in my brain of their existence, but I would love to take a road trip with people curious enough to explore the possibility.
*snip*


See, there is some little bell that went off with this Tall Whites story. Why? I grew up in the Southwest U.S. and consequentially was close to a lot of the Indigenous folks there, i.e., the Dineh, Chemihuevi, Mohave and some Hopi. The Curious thing there is the fact that some of their Myths and Lore often describe an underground race of beings known as Ant People. You can look it up quite easily yourself. The descriptors for these Tall Whites match some of the Indigenous lore. The other common thread running through all of them and I mean all of them is Desert Confines. Most curious...

Cheers,

Erik



posted on Sep, 12 2009 @ 10:44 PM
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I believe that the universe is G-D, and that G-D is limitless. The only time G-D is limited is when it materializes and encapsulates into this dimension.

"Aliens"...me...you...elephants...everything in this dimension has a bit of G-D in it, so I believe aliens do exist but they're not aliens.

If that makes sense. Remember it's late.



posted on Sep, 12 2009 @ 10:51 PM
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Found some more on the Tall Whites:


The Tall Whites & Charles Hall
Airman First Class Charles Hall was Range Weather Observer for several gunnery ranges between 1965 - 1967. His job could have been plain simple if the aliens he calls the Tall Whites weren't often around, silently observing him. He was given the surname "Teacher's Pet".
By Michele Bugliaro Goggia - last modified: April 12, 2007 5:54 PM

Nellis Air Force Base is a United States Air Force base located in the State Of Nevada, on the northeast of the city of games known as Las Vegas. Dating back to the 1940's, Nellis today has an extension of 46 km2. Indian Springs Air Force Auxiliary Airfield, renamed to Creech Air Force Base in 2005, is an Air Force base 78 km away from Nellis AFB that was in fact part of Nellis itself...





Source and story




[edit on 22/SeppmSat, 12 Sep 2009 22:52:31 -0500/08 by redwoodjedi]



posted on Sep, 12 2009 @ 10:56 PM
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Originally posted by A Fortiori
reply to post by redwoodjedi
 


I believe that the universe is G-D, and that G-D is limitless. The only time G-D is limited is when it materializes and encapsulates into this dimension.

"Aliens"...me...you...elephants...everything in this dimension has a bit of G-D in it, so I believe aliens do exist but they're not aliens.

If that makes sense. Remember it's late.


I copy you 5 by 5, Good Buddy. It is my understanding, not belief, big difference, that there is nothing that Spirit is not. Showing that in a comprehensible and quantified manner is incredibly difficult if it is possible at all due to it's non conceptual manner.

I am quite mad...but having a good time, really!

Cheers =)

Erik



posted on Sep, 12 2009 @ 11:08 PM
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Originally posted by A Fortiori
reply to post by redwoodjedi
 


Sorry, I couldn't help it...when I heard "Tall Whites"...

Okay, late night sense of humor aside, how do you know that these are "aliens"? What if they are very terrestrial?

All jokes aside I have wanted to investigate the possibility of reptilians. Do I believe they exist? 1% chance in my brain of their existence, but I would love to take a road trip with people curious enough to explore the possibility.

As for other aliens...neh not so much. Especially not if they look like us. Takes all the fun out.

I actually LOL'ed at your badminton line

The TallWhites live on military ground near Area 51 (according to Hall).
They look humanoid and can disguise themselves to look human. They often venture into town and are very curious of us humans.

I dunno how much of all that is true, but its sounds kinda cool



posted on Sep, 12 2009 @ 11:24 PM
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I once saw a strange fellow on the bus years ago. He was blonde, short haired, and had a medium average build. At first I didn't think him too peculiar, just thinking this might have been a really ugly fellow. Nevertheless, watching him gave me chills, as I kept thinking there was something... wrong... with this man. His eyes moved much like a reptile's would, peering at different directions independent of each other. He also had this very prominent crest-like bulge in the center of his forehead. Very odd. I'll never forget him.



posted on Sep, 12 2009 @ 11:30 PM
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While reading about and doing research on the "Battle of L.A.",I remember reading that the U.S.Navy recovered a crashed craft off the coast and that one crashed in downtown L.A. and in the San Bernardino mountains near Big Bear.

They were both recovered by the U.S.Army. No, further information was allowed to be publicized due to the war time situation.

I believe it was a letter from Gen.Marshall to Roosevelt detailing it.

Someone better than me may need to do more research.

Could there have been a group of survivors of the crash near Big Bear that escaped capture and assimilated in to the rural population there.

During that time there was a large influx of new people in to California for the war effort.

Strangers wouldn't have raised much suspicion during that time.

They could have explained away their odd looks and behavior by telling people they were from out of state.

Sounds like the makings of a good movie.



posted on Sep, 12 2009 @ 11:33 PM
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Courtney Brown in one of his remote viewing books talks about aliens living in communities in several places on the planet. I do not remember if that is one of the places he mentions.



posted on Sep, 12 2009 @ 11:47 PM
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Originally posted by TallWhites

Originally posted by A Fortiori
reply to post by redwoodjedi
 


Sorry, I couldn't help it...when I heard "Tall Whites"...

Okay, late night sense of humor aside, how do you know that these are "aliens"? What if they are very terrestrial?

All jokes aside I have wanted to investigate the possibility of reptilians. Do I believe they exist? 1% chance in my brain of their existence, but I would love to take a road trip with people curious enough to explore the possibility.

As for other aliens...neh not so much. Especially not if they look like us. Takes all the fun out.

I actually LOL'ed at your badminton line

The TallWhites live on military ground near Area 51 (according to Hall).
They look humanoid and can disguise themselves to look human. They often venture into town and are very curious of us humans.

I dunno how much of all that is true, but its sounds kinda cool


Hall said he saw two of them in a casino in Las Vegas.



posted on Sep, 12 2009 @ 11:51 PM
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Originally posted by calcoastseeker
While reading about and doing research on the "Battle of L.A.",I remember reading that the U.S.Navy recovered a crashed craft off the coast and that one crashed in downtown L.A. and in the San Bernardino mountains near Big Bear.

They were both recovered by the U.S.Army. No, further information was allowed to be publicized due to the war time situation.

I believe it was a letter from Gen.Marshall to Roosevelt detailing it.

Someone better than me may need to do more research.

Could there have been a group of survivors of the crash near Big Bear that escaped capture and assimilated in to the rural population there.

During that time there was a large influx of new people in to California for the war effort.

Strangers wouldn't have raised much suspicion during that time.

They could have explained away their odd looks and behavior by telling people they were from out of state.

Sounds like the makings of a good movie.



This sounds like it could tie in with what my father told me about. We only live about 45 minutes from Big Bear on the Mojave side of the San Bernardinos. I will do some digging into this and see what I can find. My dad says he doesn't have any more info on it.

A digging I will go...

Cheers,

Erik



posted on Sep, 13 2009 @ 12:27 AM
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Originally posted by calcoastseeker
While reading about and doing research on the "Battle of L.A.",I remember reading that the U.S.Navy recovered a crashed craft off the coast and that one crashed in downtown L.A. and in the San Bernardino mountains near Big Bear.

They were both recovered by the U.S.Army. No, further information was allowed to be publicized due to the war time situation.

I believe it was a letter from Gen.Marshall to Roosevelt detailing it.

*snip*



This letter story dead ends as it is related to MJ-12 lore. The Majestic 12 documents have been proven hoaxed by Disinformation Agent Richard Doty a.k.a. "Falcon" in a late '80s UFO Doc concerning Roswell. This has really hurt Stanton Friedman's cred even though he, probably for a combination of reputation, ego and denial reasons, will not let the issue drop. Too bad. He's a fine researcher. Linda Moulton-Howe got bit by the same bug. All down hill from there.

Thanks for the tip.

Cheers,

Erik



posted on Sep, 13 2009 @ 12:49 AM
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Hey there, Tall Whites-

You can find Charles Hall on this UFO/Alien Doc, "Fastwalkers". Interesting fellow. No tangible evidence. Hearsay does not count as evidence. Oh well. I wish it did.







Charles Hall appears at the end of Part 3 beginning of Part 4














He appears in other portions throughout the Doc. Enjoy! There are some really good notable researchers on this Doc. I wonder how much of what they contributed was edited to suit the message of the Director/Producer. Hmmmm....

Cheers,

Erik

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posted on Sep, 13 2009 @ 02:29 AM
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Hi all!

This stuff is totally interesting to me! You guys seem to know so much about it already!

I was wondering though if anyone's actually had encounters with these alien communities? As in, has anyone had a dialogue with these people who seem different? I mean, if someone looks odd it could just be that it's a normal guy who is just not good looking... I kind of feel sorry for that guy with the weird forehead on the bus Kojiro saw. Maybe he had an eye problem. I guess what I'm trying to ask is how do you tell the difference between an alien and a person who is just plain ugly?

cheers

P.S. Hey Erik, do you have any other Native American stories?



posted on Sep, 13 2009 @ 10:02 AM
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Originally posted by Manuela
Hi all!

This stuff is totally interesting to me! You guys seem to know so much about it already!

I was wondering though if anyone's actually had encounters with these alien communities? As in, has anyone had a dialogue with these people who seem different? I mean, if someone looks odd it could just be that it's a normal guy who is just not good looking... I kind of feel sorry for that guy with the weird forehead on the bus Kojiro saw. Maybe he had an eye problem. I guess what I'm trying to ask is how do you tell the difference between an alien and a person who is just plain ugly?

cheers

P.S. Hey Erik, do you have any other Native American stories?


Hello Manuela,

As far as Alien identification goes, nobody knows a dern thing about it until the individual/s in question come up and say,

"hey, I'm an Alien and I know that you Humans have an overly critical and analytical psyche that doesn't trust word farther than it can throw it, so here, have a half gallon of DNA and Tissue samples and I will be glad to donate my brain seeing as how we have evolved the ability to regenerate those!"

My point is, even if one saw some individual get of a craft that just landed on their front lawn, due to the extreme stress on the current belief structures of today's global society in general, the individuals arrival would not have 100% credibility until all testing and questions and a ride in the craft back to MeeePZorP A-32 were satisfied. That's how incredulous we are. We are afraid of not being "The Only Ones" unless life "out there" is moss on a rock or goo in a puddle.

Yes! I do have more Native American stories but none that I can recall relating to the topic of this thread, therefore maybe on another thread sometime in the Psy-Meta board.

Cheers,

Erik

P.S. I know my answer was a bit droll, but when you don't know, you don't know! Point? We don't know!



posted on Sep, 13 2009 @ 10:28 AM
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In the area referred to by your father there is something interesting going on. I dont know whether its aliens or not, but when you enter an area you can feel the shift in energy and you know something else is going on there. You just feel it even though its not obvious or provable by any perceivable means.



posted on Sep, 13 2009 @ 10:44 AM
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Originally posted by Skyfloating
In the area referred to by your father there is something interesting going on. I dont know whether its aliens or not, but when you enter an area you can feel the shift in energy and you know something else is going on there. You just feel it even though its not obvious or provable by any perceivable means.


Ahh. the quintessential esoteric experience. I've had many in that area myself as well and all around a small lump of mountains to the West end of the Mariannas known as the Pinnacles. They stand out and do not look like any of the surrounding mountains. Lots of energy. Problem. Not everyone feels or gets it therefore it is frustratingly non provable.

Trying to find a baseline experience that all would recognize in this soup is quite tasking. What foundational experience is there that all could have and that we could all then build from?

Now back to topic. I have looked all over that region by backpacking, dirt bike, and four wheel drive for some kind of evidence of residence. What would a hidden alien residence look like? That was ultimately the question I was left with. My answer at the time (20 plus years ago) : They either are not here or I can't see them for other reasons that quite frankly at this time in my life I do not understand. I have been down lots of dead ends, though. This is why I find ATS valuable. Someone always knows something you don't. A different angle. A little nugget of info previously unknown to you.

So when I come to wit's end, I throw it out here and more often than not, I get a little ice breaker. Nice!

If you ever get a chance to get to the Pinnacles off of the Mariannas, I would highly suggest doing so.

Cheers,

Erik



posted on Sep, 13 2009 @ 11:33 AM
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Originally posted by redwoodjedi
Trying to find a baseline experience that all would recognize in this soup is quite tasking. What foundational experience is there that all could have and that we could all then build from?


The only barometer I rely on is an immediate spontaneous sensing of things. After that, the intellect comes on and its impossible to tell what is what. I think every human has this sensing-system from birth, but not many are consciously aware of it.

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Back on topic: What else did your dad say? By that I mean: Were other things he said generally reliable or did he like to spin yarn?

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