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Free Energy Invention Could Get You Killed ?

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posted on Mar, 31 2008 @ 08:17 PM
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thank you for your post,



Wow.. nice thread. I really really hope free energy does not get you killed otherwise I'm going to have some people knocking on my door soon.. Hahaha.


my personal belief is that they are not worried about every one that is tinkering in their garage. i think it becomes a problem when you try to patent it and make money on it.



Seriously though. I have been experimenting with magnets and have come across a few orientations of magnets in motion that have a great potential for creating more power than is put into it.


thats really cool and i wish i had the oppoutunity to try some things like your doing. i think electromagnetic engines are a strong contender to win a reliable energy source prize.


did you see the post on page two from StellerX ? he posted this link wich i think you might like ? i did...



www.rexresearch.com...
Kohei Minato: Magnet Motor




posted on Mar, 31 2008 @ 08:37 PM
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Originally posted by Amaterasu

Originally posted by easynow
overunity can only be achieved by breaking the stranglehold that enslaves all of us.


And what do you see as being the stranglehold?

(One liner. So sue me. [wink])



thanks for your posts,

what i really meant by this statement is... overunity technology can only be brought to the table for public consumption if we (the general public) demand it.

the question i have already posed is :


what is the purpose of free energy.... if we are still gonna be connected to the grid ?


i like the joe cell theory ...but you know that no matter what they put it in you will have to pay for it.

can you install this in a car and actually drive around in it ? and be legal ?

i dont think the car manufactures and D.O.T. are gonna let you do it . not with out them getting a piece of the pie....


[edit on 31-3-2008 by easynow]



posted on Mar, 31 2008 @ 11:26 PM
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I didn't follow all of your links in response but all of the references I saw were either catching radio waves or not producing any substantial current. A static shock from your rug has 30,000 volts but is useless. On the electron side of things we have the science pretty much down. On the dark matter side all I can say is that put up some solid research about it. I've heard the stories around the campfire myself but until something tangible is put out its a ghost. There is some work out there that you can research for yourself about anti-matter, but the general consensus is that we can blow up the universe with it so its best left alone.

What really bugs me about the whole thing is that the problem could be solved now with solar power and various bio fuels. We are as of 2006 (last time I researched) capable of growing algae that produces 50% fat by volume that grows in shallow pools of sewage in the desert. we have plenty of sewage and desert are available to farm this energy, but don't want to invest in it because the return is not immediate.



posted on Mar, 31 2008 @ 11:27 PM
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Actually.. I didn't see that from this thread but I have read it before. That is a very very efficient electric motor. Amazing actually.

What I am doing involves only permanent rare earth magnets. No electrical input.



posted on Apr, 1 2008 @ 06:16 AM
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Anything involving fuels you have to burn will create a problem with the global warming activists unless it's pure hydrogen and even that can produce oxides of nitrogen if you mix it with ordinary atmospheric air.

Tesla demonstrated pulling energy out of the air and it does work to a degree but requires massive antennas and capacitor banks plus it has to be capable of surviving lightning strikes (definitely not 'free' or even cheap energy). Just imagine every house having a 5000' antenna in the backyard and a converter substation - highly impractical. The energy density per dollar outlaid simply doesn't make it viable for commercial application.

Tesla's Pierce Arrow electric car demonstration would be a sensation even today and it remains unclear how he established an earth return from a moving vehicle. A possibility is that he transmitted 3 phase energy via discrete channels multiplexed into a single or separate RF carrier waves. The earth reference in that case is implied (starpoint) and doesn't need to be a physical connection at all. Transmitting signals of that intensity - it's a wonder a few states didn't show increased rates of tumors after his show of technology. He never revealed the details of how he did it after the press accused him of a public deception with 'magic tricks'.



posted on Apr, 1 2008 @ 07:05 AM
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Originally posted by easynow
what i really meant by this statement is... overunity technology can only be brought to the table for public consumption if we (the general public) demand it.


I agree that if we do not reach for it, we will not get it....


what is the purpose of free energy.... if we are still gonna be connected to the grid ?


That depends on whether the Elite try to sell us the energy they're getting for free (in fact, they likely are already). But if we can get it for ourselves, then off the grid we go.


i like the joe cell theory ...but you know that no matter what they put it in you will have to pay for it.


Yeah... But the cost of a Joe Cell is not all that much. And the more things that are run with it the less things will cost (energy being removed from the bottom line), and once everyone has their own energy, and with tech at the stage it is in its development, we will have no need for money at all in the long run.

To get the idea, read my story at:

home.earthlink.net...


can you install this in a car and actually drive around in it ? and be legal ?


Yes, there are like a dozen cars running on it, presumably. Legal? I don't think there have been any laws for or against it. Since we are told the Energy does not exist, why would there be laws governing it? So I am guessing that it would be not illegal.


i dont think the car manufactures and D.O.T. are gonna let you do it . not with out them getting a piece of the pie....


I don't think the car manufacturers care. Nor really does the DOT. The OIL companies...now THEY care. And some may have control of the DOT, so it may look like they care.

But if people could build the Joe Cells themselves, or buy them cheaply, they wouldn't care what Big Oil or the DOT say, with gas at $3.50 +.

Believe me, if you can get the Cells going, they will take off. As of now, the idea is scoffed at, ridiculed, and so on, but no one will build one and test it. I even suggested to Mythbusters that they check out the Joe Cell. Seems I was not the only one, too. They never responded, and, of course, they have never tackled the Joe Cell. Why do you suppose they don't?

I mean, what better thing to bust than that? And if it works...hallelujah!



posted on Apr, 1 2008 @ 07:23 AM
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I should have included nuclear as a source of 'free' energy as well because it simply uses the heat of nuclear fission to boil water for turbines and produces no greenhouse gases. The trouble is the cost of safe facilities to make use of it with backups on backups on backups for a virtually failsafe level of security against leakage or runaway reactions.

It's yet another case of the energy being free (even natural) but we struggle to afford the collection infrastructure.



posted on Apr, 1 2008 @ 06:54 PM
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Originally posted by Pilgrum
I should have included nuclear as a source of 'free' energy as well because it simply uses the heat of nuclear fission to boil water for turbines and produces no greenhouse gases. The trouble is the cost of safe facilities to make use of it with backups on backups on backups for a virtually failsafe level of security against leakage or runaway reactions.

It's yet another case of the energy being free (even natural) but we struggle to afford the collection infrastructure.



And... It has the issue of what to do with the spent uranium...

I say we look into Derk Energy.



posted on Apr, 1 2008 @ 09:01 PM
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Originally posted by Amaterasu

Originally posted by Pilgrum
I should have included nuclear as a source of 'free' energy as well because it simply uses the heat of nuclear fission to boil water for turbines and produces no greenhouse gases. The trouble is the cost of safe facilities to make use of it with backups on backups on backups for a virtually failsafe level of security against leakage or runaway reactions.

It's yet another case of the energy being free (even natural) but we struggle to afford the collection infrastructure.



And... It has the issue of what to do with the spent uranium...

I say we look into Derk Energy.


I have provided a link in this thread on what to do with spent uranium (and any other "hot" material). Nanotech has developed a material that can turn radiation directly into electricity.

Dark energy is not recognized as a known entitiy by most of science. Getting traction for your "Joe cell" will be difficult. Nanotech, however, is a hot topic and can gain great levels of funding.

If one picks his/her battles, they can likely see MUCH greater advancement in the war.



posted on Apr, 3 2008 @ 09:39 AM
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Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
Nanotech has developed a material that can turn radiation directly into electricity.


I guess you're referring to the nanotube developments currently being researched and yes, there's huge promise in that field. Like a solar panel that delivers hydrogen for example (titanium nanotubes) that's being worked on at an Oz uni.

Nuclear waste that primarily throws off alpha particles has been used for some time in association with thermopiles to make an extremely longlife battery too - I believe something like that was used in heart pacemakers at some stage and perhaps still is.



posted on Apr, 4 2008 @ 10:19 AM
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Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan


And... It has the issue of what to do with the spent uranium...

I say we look into Derk Energy.


I have provided a link in this thread on what to do with spent uranium (and any other "hot" material). Nanotech has developed a material that can turn radiation directly into electricity.

Dark energy is not recognized as a known entitiy by most of science. Getting traction for your "Joe cell" will be difficult. Nanotech, however, is a hot topic and can gain great levels of funding.

If one picks his/her battles, they can likely see MUCH greater advancement in the war.


Well, I surely hope they find workable solutions to waste disposal. Sounds like they're on track.

As for Dark Energy... Despite the expansion of the Universe - which is sometimes explained by a "compression" in the time dimension - and despite the fact that the matter we see not being able to account gravitationally for the behavior we see in the Universe, I am surprised that "most of science" does not recognize that something is there.

Dark Energy, some say, is available from the time dimension. If the expansion has to do with the behavior of time, this makes sense. And I suspect that there are many "scientists" whose job it is to "debunk" Dark Energy. They surely don't want us to discover ways of tapping it for ourselves.

And I also would say that if we go under the assumption that Dark Energy CAN be tapped - by us, the average Joes in the world - and do our research into the anomalous (by classical science's point of view) results others have recorded (Viktor Schauberger, Wilhelm Reich, Royal Rife, Nikola Tesla), do experiments based on their work, we may see positive results. If enough of us do this, and successes come about in large numbers, quashing these results will be difficult at best, and may lead to a tipping point.

The motivation would be the realization that if we had all the energy we could use, money would lose its meaning. Money is, in the final analysis, a representation of an exchange of energy. Buying the food you eat represents to energy of the farmers used to produce the food, the energy to transport it and to store it in ways that prolong its shelflife (refrigeration)...

With today's tech where it is at, we can free ourselves from a requirement to work. We would congregate in groups with similar interests and views. We would have virtually no "evil" because the icon that is loved would be removed and Evil will have no root.

It would be heaven on earth. That's motivation enough for me to try (and I have had successes with healing devices based on Wilhelm Reich's work - enough to convince me that there is something to tap). I can't imagine, with this as the outcome, why everybody isn't at least giving it the benefit of the doubt, and working hard to bring it forth for all.

[edit on 4/4/2008 by Amaterasu]



posted on Oct, 13 2008 @ 01:47 AM
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Why would the gevernment worry about such small things. They have enough problems on their hands dealing with the wars and the privatizing of the government. Free energy is not a threat yet. Its too small. Too small to replace big oil. If oil companies do not switch to the new technology then it wont change. Of course it is real. It does exist. But one man in a garage converting a few cars and motors to free energy does not threaten a huge oil industry. There are too many complications with such devices. Its not publicly accepted. This world is too big for one government to stop everyone from doing these projects. It would cost too much. Besides all they have to do is wait until something big happens then they can suppress it. But the question is why. Its one person out of 7 billion people on the planet.



posted on Oct, 13 2008 @ 03:48 AM
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In these times, if a device that could create free energy existed, why would people buy oil and other non-sustainable resources? The Oil barons or whatever they are called these days have billions of dollars at their disposal (Made by selling oil) and since they have such power, they would never want to lose it...

Why do you think things like solar energy and wind energy generators are so 'useless' at the moment? Im quite sure that solar energy is something which is at the current moment in a hugely advanced stage of development and could easily be made to power alot of things. Oil prices gone up? Yes more money for the big boys!... And since almost every developed city uses cars, trucks and etc as the transport of choice, you all have to pay for it!...

Im quite sure a billion+ dollars can easily get alot of things done to help you stay in power.

[edit on 13-10-2008 by MereMugglePop]



posted on Oct, 13 2008 @ 04:31 AM
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I sincerely hope this is true. Then my ex will "DISAPPEAR" for converting his vehicle to run on water.
Oh, happy day.



posted on Oct, 13 2008 @ 04:57 AM
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Yes, a free energy or zero point power supply have been talked about for many years. So where are these devices that can cause oil to be dropped as a clean economic resource?

There are persons that have worked on this goal for mankind to be free from the life we must live for all the oil, gas and electric interest drives food prices higher and takes from the normal funds for all families. We have all seen it in our own lives.

I also say yes to an inventor worrying from others killing them or arresting you never to be seen again. It may have taken decades to finally have the full goods not to fall for this person has seen this device as it relates to the unified field and/or the theory of everything.

If this inventor could they would look at the technology that becomes available all the time it seems. Computers, electronic lab basic testing and power sources that are controlled.

Let us just say that a complete view of the quantum mechanics for matter in time and space related to wave types that each have differing shapes and/or forces of power that makes chemistry to work. Does this person have knowledge of engineering in all disciplines if possible?

What has been reported as UFOs or Rods are all part of the solution of the free energy device. Even the size of the form is something others do not have ownership? How can they build when they have no understand really?

This person may have save up funds to build a small model to prove the patent and individual rights for protection of their own mental creations and knowledge.

Since so many steal from others in the "free energy market" it is impossible to seek help to build the device. Thus I feel that a person would have to work out if the process could be duplicated on their own resources.

I would hope that this person with a finished product should seed it out to ten persons to have a copy of the knowledge to reproduce. Hopefully this would secure the inventor's safety from forces that would have their companies see a new age of low cost small plant that after starting with about 100 watts that could supply size devices for cars, houses and manufacturing shops.

I just see such a future if we could have safe low cost power that is so mobile. May be we will not need all the above or below ground highline wires that are used at present time. We could have a home with a greenhouse that is powered by free energy devices also.

This person may live through this release of new energy source that can't be controlled in large devices like coal plants or Nuclear plants so they can continue setting the prices based on how much profit the stock holder demanded for the oil gas or electricity.

It would be a major change that will have effects among the general public in the whole world. May be all older people can take to caring for the children for they don't want to see war, death and maiming all about them. It would be great if peoples in Africa have this free energy so they can help their lives more due to how present leaders determine politics and priorities of the government.

I do hope that these or that one inventor come into play in the near future. It may bring Peace I hope since it will be good for the people and planet we live on together.

May we can be true citizens of the world. We could then tell life forms from elsewhere that we are all working to feed, cloth, supply homes and needs of one another.

For Peace we need to just have something change to free the poor peoples in this world.



[edit on 13-10-2008 by Light2u]



posted on Oct, 13 2008 @ 02:57 PM
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the ones really suppresing free energy are not the oil companies.

since the supression of free energy spans froms telsas scalar waves transmitters a hundred years ago,to cold fusion,to inventors all over the world in every country,even one who was in zambia ended up being killed before he could release the tech.......its obvious were dealing with an highly organized campaign to snuff out that which will help set us free.

i remember somone posting on here that he had a website that contained an article about a form of free energy,and who should come and visit that article on numerous occasions?.the nsa....and if you know your stuff you will know the nsa were created by the "aliens" to cover up thier own existence.

and if you really know your stuff you will know the purpose of the "aliens" being here is depopulation, thus i suggest free energy suppresion is perpitrated by they who are responsible for human depopulation.



posted on Oct, 13 2008 @ 03:42 PM
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I think that they may already know about free energy, theres no need to to go into the reasons why, that is explained well in this thread. I'm sure you all heard by now of GFL and the message they have given regarding OCT 14th. They have said in one of thier messgaes that our leaders knew about free energy and were keeping this knowledge from us, and that were coming to change that? Anyone considered the possibilty this is a whistle blowing stunt. Face it, its all over this site, google, youtube.. It a good way of grabbing the worlds attention before they disclose this secret? Who will listen to a minority?? Issac Discovered Gravity, he also was one of the famous translators of The Tablet of Hermes.
Read below and try to solve the riddle?


Translation of Issac Newton c. 1680.



1) Tis true without lying, certain & most true.
2) That wch is below is like that wch is above & that wch is above is like yt wch is below to do ye miracles of one only thing.
3) And as all things have been & arose from one by ye mediation of one: so all things have their birth from this one thing by adaptation.
4) The Sun is its father, the moon its mother,
5) the wind hath carried it in its belly, the earth its nourse.
6) The father of all perfection in ye whole world is here.
7) Its force or power is entire if it be converted into earth.
7a) Seperate thou ye earth from ye fire, ye subtile from the gross sweetly wth great indoustry.
8) It ascends from ye earth to ye heaven & again it desends to ye earth and receives ye force of things superior & inferior.
9) By this means you shall have ye glory of ye whole world & thereby all obscurity shall fly from you.
10) Its force is above all force. ffor it vanquishes every subtile thing & penetrates every solid thing.
11a) So was ye world created.
12) From this are & do come admirable adaptaions whereof ye means (Or process) is here in this.
13) Hence I am called Hermes Trismegist, having the three parts of ye philosophy of ye whole world.
14) That wch I have said of ye operation of ye Sun is accomplished & ended.
[Dobbs 1988: 183-4.]



Now read it again this time with the answer being magnetism.
I have no idea what the correct answer is but it works well to me. Got to think if this had any connection with Newton discovery of Gravity?

I also remembered reading somewhere about placing razor blades under pyramids, and it sharpening them - due to energy? This made me think of the Great pramid and its location:
www.timestar.org...

uk.youtube.com...



posted on Oct, 13 2008 @ 04:01 PM
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I pay for my energy, I'm a smarty I know there is an Illuminati party.
I also stay away from free energy of any kind.
Thanks for another free energy thread.
I hope to collect all my free energy secrets and give them out soon.
Stay tuned.
Soon the Moon.
The CIA Office of Scientific Information (OSI) has jurisdiction over us so
lets be frank. Its no picnic out there.

ED: Aliens?


[edit on 10/13/2008 by TeslaandLyne]



posted on Dec, 3 2008 @ 06:21 AM
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posted on Dec, 3 2008 @ 06:30 AM
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Free energy, cures, renewables, all do not work very well in a "for sale" economic system.

And free energy, cures, renewables cannot make profit...thus are not used, marketed, patend, or "for sale"....only put up on the shelf and hidden away.

Its hard for it to be free when its bought and sold in the marketplace.



Cheers!!!!



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