Frank Schaeffer, John Whitehead and Cal Thomas have repudiated the theocratic movement they once led. Here’s why.

Originally posted by Lilitu


There are a lot of conspiracy theories discussed in these forums and most of them are hogwash. But anyone who cannot plainly see the evangelical conspiracy to take dominion over the US and then the world is going through life with blinders on.

www.theocracywatch.org...

Originally posted by idle_rocker
reply to post by undo

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I have never noticed that bumper sticker before...if that's true (and I have NO reason to doubt you), then you're exactly right. So may I ask who you think is going to win (by non-voting) the election? I have my thoughts, but I'd like to hear yours if you're willing to post them. If not, feel free to u2u me.

The secularists, especially in the [Democratic] leadership, have a hostility toward fundamentalists that comes close to bigotry, and may sometimes cross that line. Delegates to the 1992 Democratic convention gave fundamentalists an average score of 11 on a 0 to 100 warmth scale. (By contrast, conservatives got a 34 from the same delegates.) This was the coldest view toward any group by the delegates at either convention. More than half of the Democratic delegates gave Christian fundamentalists a 0 score, rating them, in effect, with Hitler and Stalin. (Well, perhaps not with Stalin. It is not a big secret that there are still people in the Democratic party with some warmth toward socialist experiments.) What makes these low ratings even more striking is that they come from political people, who one would think would be inclined to like, or pretend to like, every potential voter.

Biblical Law

Dominists seek to re-interpret the U.S. Constitution so that it conforms to their Biblical Worldview. Mathew Staver, founder of Liberty Counsel declares it's time to get Jesus into the judicial mix.

"Now we're working to establish Liberty University School of Law, which will open its doors in August 2004. We are going to teach lawyers to think in a biblical, Christian world view."

According to dominionists, the Bible has supremacy over the U.S. Constitution. In a 2002 address to the Society of Catholic Social Scientists in Ann Arbor, Mich., federal judge James Leon Holmes, appointed in July, 2004, affirmed the supremacy of the Bible:

Christianity transcends the political order and cannot be subordinated to the political order.

The principle of separation of church and state has no place in his vision for the future:

The final reunion of Church and state will take place at the end of time, when Christ will claim definitive political power of all creation, inaugurating an entirely new society based on the supernatural.
Biblical Law

Originally posted by AshleyD
reply to post by LDragonFire

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There is no conspiracy. I am an evangelical Christian and have no interest in doing such things. Therefore, since I am an EC and am unaware of such a conspiracy, there most certainly is not one. You see, evangelical Christians are kind of like herding cats. We all have different beliefs. The only thing in common is that we believe in a God.

Originally posted by Bigwhammy
There are Christians and some are Evangelicals but the ones you are talking about do not really exist. It's a myth made up by the NWO to fool you right into their plan. The NWO is the Satanic conspiracy. The bible predicted the NWO 2000 years ago, now you are throwing out the one Book that tells you how to deal with it. The Devil has always been a master of getting folks to fall for the exact opposite of the truth. If you're not a Christian consider yourself pwned.

Originally posted by idle_rocker

I am a Christian and have not decided for whom I will vote. I don't see the church as trying to control the masses. If a pastor is telling his flock how to vote, he/she is definitely outside the realm of prescribed teaching.

I guess there are a few churches that try to control every aspect of their membership, but this is not true as a whole. As a matter of fact, I would say this is very rare.

Originally posted by undo

do you sincerely believe we voted in Bush? i don't. no way were democrats going to take responsbility for the war in Iraq. the idea was to make it look like it was all the brainchild of christians who put the man in power (which we didn't), after which he goes about the world making the name of the USA and christianity, a mockery. it was quite devious and brilliantly planned. gotta hand it to the people manipulating all this: it really is the best snow job i've ever seen.

President Bush's successful reelection effort owed much to the support he received from highly religious voters, especially white evangelical Protestants. But what has been largely overlooked is Bush's success with less religious voters. In fact, compared with four years ago, Bush made relatively bigger gains among infrequent churchgoers than he did among religiously observant voters.
Religion and the Presidential Vote

Originally posted by Lilitu
There are a lot of conspiracy theories discussed in these forums and most of them are hogwash. But anyone who cannot plainly see the evangelical conspiracy to take dominion over the US and then the world is going through life with blinders on.

there's always a margin of error, however. that's where the "is it live or is it memorex" problem arises. it says if it were possible, even the elect of God would be fooled. i think this indicates that you gotta really be on your toes, or the wool is gonna get pulled over your eyes and that includes christian people who aren't paying attention.

How does one "speak like a Dragon" ? Anyone know?

Your book also mentions many will come in my {Jesus} name, but will not be from him, yet you point out satanists as the enemy, hmmm who should we believe in, a organisation that has millions of true believers, massive political and financial power worldwide, or a few nutjob satanists killing cats in the woods? I'm not a Christian, and I see with my eyes wide open, any one here that would describe a Christian this way?

And if our world is not a Christian world it will be destroyed?