Fox News and Conservative Views

One can not linger here on ATS Above Politics for long and not run into the comment, "Faux News", while admittedly juvenile and a weak attempt at presenting a view point the speaker obviously has some difficulty with, one must examine the negative as well as the positive to gain a complete understanding.

Fox News popularity is well documented.

Fox News

So while some may consider themselves astute enough to decide for the rest of the nation what they should and should not watch, apparently massive amounts of people disagree.

With MSNBC, CBS, ABC, NBC, NPR and CNN all spouting liberal agenda power points at every opportunity, why is the success of the only news organization presenting even a partial Conservative viewpoint, a problem?

Are not 6 Liberal mouth-pieces compared to 1, fair to Libs?

Or is it the well documented phenomenon of the Liberal aversion to losing?

National Center

Exactly represented in the Liberal attempt at silencing Conservative Talk Radio due to their failure in the Liberal Genre of talk radio. Simply a perfect example of the free market at work. Yet the Libs can't stand it.

It has nothing to do with Fox personally, it also has nothing to do with the fact that the Liberals have many more "Mouth Pieces" than the Conservatives; it has everything to do with the fact that America prefers Conservative talk and Conservative news.

Semper

Well foreign media outlets are only of interest to me for world news. Unlike US TV news networks the BBC is a genuine world news network and if I am after purely a American focus there is always CNN. I can remember being during the wee hours watching news coverage of the war in Lebanon. I was flicking between the BBC and Fox News coverage on Free to Air TV.

Note in the above paragraph I refer to the BBC and CNN websites I don't have Sky TV.

While the BBC reported on events in its usual dry manner A Fox reporter blabbed on utter dribble something related to Israeli Combat Engineers . But if hey if you don't like a media outlet simply don't read , listen or watch it is the best way of lodging your views. Clearly if I am up during the early hours I don't bother with Fox News.



[edit on 29-3-2008 by xpert11]

[edit on 29-3-2008 by xpert11]

First of all, Id like to say that as a Briton, I feel that I am able to present an impartial analysis of the American media in comparison to the media in the UK.

If we are able to eliminate all the constants in the situation, such as ownership and presentation style, we are able to analyse the preferences of the population as a whole.

As Fox News and Sky News are both owned by Murdoch, we can make a direct comparison between both. I find that Sky news tends to be far more neutral or moderate than Fox News. That said, Sky News is the most right wing news channel that we have in the UK. Fox News offers a viewpoint which is definitely right of centre, which I must admit is a very refreshing change from the liberal media. CNN and CNBC are definitely left of centre and I find them to be too heavily biased towards the Democrats for my liking. As a rule I also find Fox news to be heavily opinionated by the presenters rather than the channel as a whole. We can find different opinions presented by figures like Mort Kondracke. Is this not a form of balance in itself?

From these observations we can draw conclusions that :

1. The American viewership is more conservative than the British viewership. I find, as a rule, Americans are also more conservative than Britons.

2. American news is more opinionated, and none of the options are "neutral". The choice you have to make is between Republican and Democrat channels.

3. As a result Fox News has considerable popularity because it is the only conservative voice amidst the liberal media.


Perhaps the stereotypes that exist such as "liberal media" for most channels, and "Faux News" for Fox, are true appelations considering the extent of their slant on the news as compared to British News.

As such, would America benefit from a more neutral (if not moderate) voice in the media? I posit not. People tend to enjoy receiving news from a source which is in line with their views.
I certainly would enjoy a more conservative voice in the British media, but such a channel would be unpopular here considering the mass liberality [sic] of the British public.

Enjoy Fox News while it lasts, if Hillary gets in no doubt she will issue gag orders against the channel!

Genuine .. not with an agenda eh?

Well, at least they have the good manners to admit they are bias .

another bbc bias story
another source
Honest Reporting exposes BBC Left Bias
BBC biased on religion and politics - another source
BBC admits anti-Christian bias



BBC? No thanks.




[edit on 3/29/2008 by FlyersFan]

FlyersFan you misunderstood my point. I wasn't referring to the BBC political biases I was referring to the fact that the BBC actually lives up to its billing of being a world news network. US news outlets ideas of world news tends to be to US centric for my liking . The reasons for this go beyond the scope of this thread.

The 6 o'clock news seems to care more about NZ fashion week then they do world news that is why I have to look else where . As I said the BBC reports news rather then dribble I will make up my own mind about the events that are being reported on. I never said that you should watch , listen or read BBC stories . What media outlets you get your news from is your choice. I don't want to see people freedom of choice in terms of media outlets taken away .

The World Net Daily , Life site News your family and culture outpost , and The entertainment Guide out of those from what I saw I might be inclined to bother with the The entertainment Guide . You would struggle to find a media outlet that doesn't have some form of biases .

And I was showing that it isn't really a 'news' network.
It's an agenda network.
It's a world AGENDA network. Not a world news network.


The BBC doesn't have 'some form' of biases. It is completely biased.
Religion. World News. They admit they lean left. They are anti-American.
They proudly admit that as well.


I posted all those different information sources for a reason. Some folks like CCN. Some MSNBC. Some Fox. Some lifesite. Some BBC. etc etc So I found information about the BBC being biased - in all areas of it's reporting - from many different news sources. I was showing that, across the board, the massive bias has been reported.

People can't point at Fox and complain about bias .. but then watch CNN, MSNBC, BBC, etc etc and say that those are legitimate news sources. The fact is that they are baised which makes them, not news networks, but AGENDA networks. BBC especially so.

FlyersFan I understand where your coming from now. Sorry about the mix up it looks like we will have agree to disagree concerning the BBC. As I said if I'm up at such an hour I choose not to watch if others choose to do so that is there right .

To begin with Fox "news" isn't "news" its editorializing posing as news. Sure they're topical but if they weren't they'd be a soap opera. Fox is a wing of the republican party -- they make that plain with every utterance from Hannity and OReilly. It isn't journalism when the first morning memo at the office tells the hosts what to spin and how to spin it. And, people use this term liberal to modify media? As Chomsky cites the only reason American media is called liberal is because if the corporate lobby influenced media were left of the current corporate catechism then it would be perceived as fanatical. That is if it weren't described as liberal from the positions it takes now, anything further to the left, and actually being legitmately described as liberal, would just be thought of as madness by an unenlightened public. Your'e conservative because you're either a demimonde and your social circle or workplace requires it of you or you're a blowhard who needs a bogeyman and as a kid you probably had superhero fixations and needed to kill everything in your immediate proximity. I don't expect you to admit it, that is anyone who responds to this, its just your psychological makeup that objectively isn't for you to deny. The term I like that describes conservative motivatiions best is "emotionally potent oversimplification". Let that marinate on your mind for awhile and get a sense of how apt a description it is.


We're all just hornets in a jar.