I think it depends in how you interpret the creation story, especially seeing as it possibly isnt even the whole account, just a rendering or a chinese whisper which is what we have ended up with over all these years.

Personally, I neither believe or disbelieve in 'God', my heart and soul tell me there is a higher being but my brain just cant comprehend what it might be right now. I do believe though that the Gods refered to in the Bible, and any other ancient civilisations or creation stories are either ET's or even races that lived here before us or perhaps even still among us.

So if we have been living among more advanced beings at one point in our history it isnt unthinkable that they have influenced our evolution and what-not to make us what we are today.
So we could have evolved from bacterium and still there could be credability in the creation story, meaning that both points are actually valid.

No facts or anything, just theories I have often thought about.

I believe God created us. I DO NOT believe he created us 6,000 years ago. Tens of thousands .. hundreds of thousands .. but not 6,000. He may have used evolution. He may not have. He may have used space aliens to create us. He may not have. In any case - I believe it was God's guiding hand that caused us to happen. He made it happen - in a way that best suited Him.

Originally posted by Heronumber0
I still believe in god, I just think He wouldn't play games with us...

Frankly .. considering what goes on in the world ... sometimes I wonder about that.

So what happens if we kill of all these bacteria/mitochondria?

Maybe we acquired it and were not created with it.

Maybe that is why we no longer live as longs as those listed in the Bible?

I happened to stumble across this thread so I thought I would post my opinion/interpretation on what the bible says as an answer some of these questions.

DID GOD CREATE MAN 6000 YEARS AGO AND MAKE IT LOOK AS IF THERE WAS A BACTERIUM INSIDE HIM THAT EVOLVED OVER MILLIONS OF YEARS!!!!

My question to this would be: why would God do that? that would only make his Word less believable. and why cant God make bacteria at the same time as man? why does he have to make things evolve over millions of years?
let me step back here and make one thing clear - divergent evolution/speciation/micro evolution does not contradict the bible at all whatsoever. variations within the different kinds of animals out there happen, you may get a different species but you will never get a different kind of animal. for example: horses, zebras, zonkies, zeonies and shebras are all the same kind of animal same kind. 99% of the time they can produce offspring. and sometimes variations create sucha great diversity that (lets say) the shebra can no longer breed with the pony. this is scientfic and it has been observed. im not saying this example I gave has been proved, but the concept has. and all that we know by this concept is that species change over time and as far as we know, those changes are limited.

now back to this bacteria question. if this bacteria was only appearing to evolve over millions of years.... first of all that would be deceitfull on Gods part. I think God can do it right the first time.

I believe God created us. I DO NOT believe he created us 6,000 years ago. Tens of thousands .. hundreds of thousands .. but not 6,000. He may have used evolution. He may not have. He may have used space aliens to create us. He may not have. In any case - I believe it was God's guiding hand that caused us to happen. He made it happen - in a way that best suited Him.

id have to disagree with a few parts in this one.
God using evolution to get us? Jesus quotes/refers to Genesis numerous times, other cross references indicate that God created the universe in 6 literal days. and it also says that the creation of Adam was the beginning. now if that was the beginning, then all you have to do is use the geneology of the bible to find out how old the earth is. (rough estimate puts it at 6,000<10,000 years. I think the aliens are out of the question, God said he made man from dust of the earth, not using anything else. see God having to use something in order to create means he doesnt have absolute power. All God has to do is speak and things happen. "let there be light" and there is light.
and what is wrong with the idea that God can do it all in six days the way he wants it with no help? sounds to me like you are trying to limit God on his abilities in order to explain or find common ground with what some people try to call science.

I do believe in "God", for me it isnt hard to accept the possibilty that there are things in the world that are far beyond what i am capable of understanding and I i do personally think there is more evidence for creationism than evolution. A simple way to crush and evolutionist's argument is ask them how to explain life, soul, conscious/subconscious. Was that random to? Just because nobody knows the meaning of life doesnt mean there isnt one!

to add to this one, (which I agree with 100%) try this sometime.
take about 5 minutes of your time to sit still and realize that the person looking through your eyes into the world is you. not john doe, not joe shmoe, its you. and the cool thing is, you know its you. you have control over your decisions and you can make things happen. notice also that you (a cognitive being) exists. and just ask yourself if you havent already. "how is it that I am me and not someone else?" if you think about that question, when you find the answer I can guarantee it will be "because you were created, not evolved"
by the way, how is it that I am me and you are you? why isnt someone else me? why isnt someone else you? not physically you (I supposed we could look like anything.) which leads to the thought of non-existence.
what would that be like? I dont remember but it sure does freak me out sometimes just thinkin about it.

idk just soemthing to think about.

its true though. Its easy for me to argue this point because i have an African Grey Parrot, to say he is intelligent is an understatement, he never ceases to amaze me but not just with his problem solving or quality vocal abiliys he is the most social pet i have ever had, he craves attention, loves people always joins in on the conversation he will even snuggle up in your arms if your stroking him. Now how can science explain how two species which are totally unrelated can communicate and bond on such a level, there is no natural mutual benefit, there is nothing chemically compatible, genetically compatible, scientifically speaking our existences should not meet yet when it does it works. What would be the scientific term for that?

Science can explain a lot of things but no one knows the meaning of life and why it was given to us and not just us but other species aswell. I am sure some of you own a dog or have owned a dog, how does science explain that?

Man probably played out before on earth, we do not know how many times before though.

So your question is useless, because we do not know what happened to the last time.

Read Psalms 90:3 You turn men back to dust, saying, "Return to dust, O sons of men." 4 For a thousand years in your sight are like a day that has just gone by, or like a watch in the night.

Now take 6000 years multiply it by 365.24 and then 1000. The answer to the riddle is 2.191.440.000. That would be about as long there has been life on earth.

A night watch however lasted three hours. Which would multiply our sum with eight: 2.191.440.000 x 8 = 17.531.520.000. That would be just about what science has managed to produce.... I'd say the bible is quite accurate...

[edit on 4/4/2008 by Neo Christian Mystic]

So if god modelled man after himself does this mean god also has components derived from bacteria? If so which came first? The god or the bacterium?

This is just too funny for I have long believed that bacteria was of more use to humans than any concept of gods and godesses.