Global Rioting Potential? The looming meltdown.

Things just may have gotten a whole lot worse...



The article continues:




Here's a look at what the production has looked like relative to prices:



You'll note, the chart ends in 2007.

The following article was also published in December of 2007:



So, prices have doubled in the previous six years, and nearly doubled again in the past two months, with a single 30% jump in one day!

Ouch!

The International Rice Research Institute (IRRI) issued a statement last week indicating "surging demand from explosive economic growth in China and India, the world's principal rice producers and consumers, have drained global stocks."

They continue:

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According to the USDA Foreign Agricultural Service, total global rice stocks are estimated to be near 75 million metric tons. (Link.)

See also,

'Worrisome signs' for global rice crop

Global rice ending stocks continue to fall

And there is already trouble in the streets...



“It has reached a critical stage where you do have food riots in a dozen countries or some related disturbance,” Danny Leipziger, the World Bank’s Vice President for poverty reduction and economic management.

Philippine communist rebels vow to step up attacks amid looming food crisis

And this may just be the start:

Rice prices become a ticking time bomb for Asian countries

Fears of unrest rise across Asia as rice price surges 30% in a day

Rising rice prices spark concerns across Asia

Thailand braces for rice crisis

Already we have riots, hoarding, panic: the sign of things to come?

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See also, Food Prices Soaring Worldwide

How Food Shortages Provoke Economic Nationalism: Tight food supplies threaten civil order but governmental responses have not helped

High grain prices having far-reaching impact

This isn't looking very good, now is it?

Look at this too (written just five months ago): US Food Riots Much Closer Than You Think.

The implications of this growing crisis are indeed disturbing.

Slow train wreck anyone?

...maybe not so slow.

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Here is what China is doing this morning:

To further corroberate this point (great post btw Loam), Time Magazine, in November of 2007 published an article, based on reports by the UN FAO (Food and Agrcultural Organization) which then, underscored the need for action and it's possible consequences:



To qualify their position, the FAO noted:



Even in November, they realized that Food was obviously going to be a huge problem based on the cost to actually import/export/transport, and that food reserves were at a 35 year low, underscoring that no easy or quick fix was in sight:



And, when you throw in the fact that the ability to actually have a reserve has a percentage being redirected toward alternate fuels:



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You could certainly have a recipe for disaster when those that are hungry decide to fight to feed their families is far superior to driving their BMW's



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Very well done Loam.. an interesting problem..

It will be interesting to see if in the Mid West we have yet another horrid summer.. crops dried out and died in their fields as cities put restrictions on water as reservoirs ran dangerously low.

I don't think America is in any danger just yet.. we already produce well over what we need.. a drop would only lower it to what we need..

The Western World will not see riots, but I would not rule out rioting breaking out across the developing/third World (which has already happened).

The UN had to cut it's food aid due to shortages, you'd better pray a famine does not break out in Africa because we will not be able to do anything to help them. That scenario is much worse than rioting.

Sadly, we could end up seeing a huge drop in the World population in the next 10 years because of this food shortage.

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Then one must ask ones self. Is that a bad thing?

Seriously.

Is it? Though.. it won't be an equal lowering of population.. as it is agreed the Western World will not see these problems.

However, according to TIMES on CNN, more and more people are resorting to food banks and soup kitchens..

The fast rising population now using these institutions for the first time is the Middle class family. Frightening indeed.. homelessness and unemployment as well are rising.. steadily.. so perhaps we have a false sense of security..

I don't think that most people realize the depth of this situation. I feel people think the end of society will come from aliens, global war, or something out of context like that. The truth is much starker than that. Most people in this country couldn't survive any kind of food shortage, their vastly over weight body's can't sustain loss of girth like that. On top of that everyone in this country has a gun(including me) which means that we'll be carrying those to the food lines.

Global food sources are already low, considering all the rioting. I hope most of will be waking up soon to the reality of what's on but as most of us ATS nuts already know, they won't. So, stock up on beans folks, this next 5 years are going to be the wildest in all of recorded history!

I can imagine the Chinese invade our country to get our food to feed their billion people. Its like our own oil field equivalent.

Good post and thread. But i think the world wont be rioting just over food. I think the world has had enough of alot of things , for example in the UK, we have rising house prices, below infaltion pay rises and many people facing rising household bills and no money in the bank. People are going to lose tempers very soon. On top of that you have rising fuel prices. I think the credit crunch whihc we are seeing not just in the UK but across the Pond is a timebomb waiting to explode. Ordinary people are soon going to be saying enough is enough and riot. After all here in the UK the last serious riot was back in the early 1990s with the Poll Tax riots and in Liverpool, Mnachester, Bradford and many northern cities in the late 1980s we had riots caused by povery and unemployment also not helped by criminal gangs exploiting the situation. So as you can see it has happened and it will happen again.

I think the trigger will be the expected Human Rights protests during the Olympics in China. And Tibet. They will be the harbringers of world discontent. Governments of the world take note!

I'm not so sure of that.

For example:



See also:

European unions plan protest over living costs

With the crisis affecting nearly all grains, this could quickly spiral out of control.

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Unlikely.



I hate to say, but you will agree with me, this what happens when you have an over populated world with limited resources and a weak infrastructure to deal with it.

I like to pick up a little extra every time I go shopping. Cans of beans , bags of rice and flour. These are just for the pantry. I also have been buying more compact frozen foods like spinach and collard greens.
I am going to double the size of my vegetable garden this year and learn to can or else dehydrate a ton of veggies. We may not go into a total meltdown but if prices spike for a few months I will be able to ride it out. I assume the food prices will start fluctuating like gas prices if not worse.
I have also been looking into growing my own sprouts. They store dry and then you just sprout as needed giving you vital fresh vegetables in a rough time.

We will end up better for having gone through all this turmoil brought on by the greed and indifference of our misguided leaders and ancestors.

I'm training myself; like the farmer did with his cow. He trained it not
to eat any more. He said: " I would have trained it not to drink any more
too"; but it up and died on me!

One of the very interesting and never-studied aspects of the war between North Vietnam and South Vietnam is that for a series of years the rice harvest in North Vietnam failed, but there was abundant rice in South Viet Nam.

Hunger makes for war.

I'll tell you what.You don't want a confrontation with an angry,hungry man who's trying to feed 3 kids and a wife. I'll start eating people. LOL.

All seriousness though,if we start facing a food crisis you can gaurauntee it will be nothing like gas/oil. A starving person will kill to eat. Back to our primitive instincts and as herbalapoch stated: many people are strapping guns so I can easily see it getting out of control.

Would you let your kids starve. As inhumane as it may sound,my family has to eat no matter what.Lets pray the Lord sheds his grace and mercy on us and we need to stop taking these things for granted.

What is going on with this world?

Food crisis now?

So we have peak oil, stock market crisis, a housing crisis, and now a food crisis?

And I've probably left out a bunch of other crisis' we're having.
2008 the year of the crisis anyone?

I know here in Australia we are currently in the longest drought in our nations history. Its REALLY bad.
The Govt has had to step in on multiple levels from setting up mental health centers in district area's for suicidal farmers, and special funds to keep the one's who are suffering most afloat.
Which in turn has absolutely hammered food prices here. In the space of a month, ALL essential services prices have risen. Gas, electricity and of coarse water bills have all risen dramatically. All due to the drought. Watching news stories of thousands of sheep and cattle either already dead from starvation or being shot and then bulldozer into large pits and set on fire. Simply because there is NO grain, grass or stock with which to feed them.

Australia is a leading exporter in many foods, considering our vast land mass.
But this drought, the worst in our nations history has really taken its toll on exports and prices in our own markets.

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That is the truth. We absolutly do have a false sense of security and it should never be taken lightly.

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actually .....

history tells us men will sooner keel over dead, along side their starving children before they make a peep.

the White Boys of Ireland where about as radical as they got during the worst famine in modern Western history..

Essentially nothing more then a scare tactic against local land owners.. nothing came of it, and most members died, along with their families.. plenty of groups got the weapons, got the funding, but did noting.

Mostly because the rich where complacent, and the poor died.

No.. a hungry man is a weak man. nothing more, nothing less.

My first thought was to get into the rice farming business, not a global rioting meltdown. Be thankful we don't live in a planned economy. Supply and demand, people.

Well i can see your point so I will take thet as a lesson and learn from history.Not to let myself becom hungry and weak.Now that I have the knowledge,all I have to do is apply it and that shouldn't be to hard considering todays media.You can't even fart w'out the world knowing it. So at the first signs of any problems, I apply my lesson.

I also wouldn't expect anyone to do anything anyway.This whole country is trained and conformed to the laws of this world. I follow my own beliefs and ideal,so I don't act as the masses.I follow my instinct, intuition and my Holy Spirit. Besides if it is the will of The God I believe in, then no man can stop his fate and I'll aceopt it,like it or not.