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Originally posted by tarichar
Climate Change denial is a line that the neo-cons ...
Originally posted by Nookster
Global warming has both natural and man-made components but the natural components are of such magnitude that I don't think there is anything man can do to stop it. It's also not a constant warming but a series of overlapping cycles, some of which are short term and some of which are long term along with a degree of chaotic behavior.
We really desperately need better energy sources than fossil fuels, not because discontinuing the use of fossil fuels will prevent global warming, it might slow it somewhat but it won't prevent it, but because fossil fuels can not provide us the magnitude of energy we will need to adapt to a changing climate, or to eliminate poverty, or to reach our human potential.
Originally posted by traderonwallst
Not only isn't global warming is man's fault. I have yet to see any concrete evidence that global warming EVEN EXISTS!!! Its nothing more than NORMAL heating and cooling cycles the Earth has gone through since its was formed.
Originally posted by IchiNiSan
Pro or Con, Global Warming or not, Manmade or not, we do have to admit that not once in the manknown written history the nature is so affected by a particular species of the planet Earth. This species has completed the globalization for centuries and for the past decades build so many unnatural structures and machines which were never intended by nature to be built at all. Mineral resources are drawn from the planet and forests are replaced by metropoles. Carbon dioxide is harmful or not, the Earth is warming or not, reality is that homo sapiens has totally destroyed the natural eco-system of Earth, no matter where on this planet. We are like a virus to planet Earth. So at least start by yourself to think about the environment.
Originally posted by knives4less
I have a unique resource available to me: The US National Weather Records Center is located in Asheville, NC, where I live. I have made the acquaintance of several of the people who work there. Among them are a meteorologist who studies satellite data and a climatologist. Privately, they have told me something they will not tell you: While there is evidence for local warming in cities, due to the growth of buildings and paved surfaces, there is no evidence for global warming. In fact, the satellite data shows a slight global cooling. You will never hear this from them, they love their jobs and the information is not politically correct.
Originally posted by tarichar
Originally posted by Kinesis
Take the attitudes of people in these forums as a microcosm of society in general. Is it really no wonder that nothing ever gets done? We need solidarity on this issue, "but it don't look like it gonna happen."
and this is where your bang on the money. The bush administration has always insisted that it doesnt want to make a decision until all the facts are in. As long as there is a question mark looming over the idea of climate change in the minds of the nation there will be no solidarity. Create confusion and uncertainty and people will be very unwilling to commit to something that may have economic repercussions.
Its nice to know its easier to go to war than save the world.
"Anytime politics intrudes on science, science is degraded and society as a whole is the loser," said Sterling Burnett, senior fellow at the National Center for Policy Analysis. "That is why the whole global warming issue is a mess right now. Scientists have not reached a scientific conclusion yet, but the politicians want to jump the gun and be seen as saviors on the issue. This is a recipe for disaster."
Burnett continued, "The reputation of science as an independent and nonpartisan source of knowledge is put at risk whenever scientists are censored for sharing scientific knowledge. Scientists should never be pressured to come up with predetermined conclusions or punished for challenging the status quo.
The study, led by Mark Pagani, associate professor of geology and geophysics at Yale, looked at an episode of rapid climate change that occurred some 55 million years ago. Known as the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum (PETM), the period was marked by a rapid rise in greenhouse gases that heated Earth by roughly 9° F (5° C), in less than 10,000 years. The climate warming caused widespread changes including mass extinction in the world's oceans due to acidification and shifts of plant communities due to changes in rainfall. The era helped set the stage for the "Age of Mammals," which included the first appearance of modern primates.
The former vice president's mansion in the posh Belle Meade area of Nashville consumes more electricity every month than the average American household uses in an entire year, says the Tennessee Center for Policy Research, citing data from the Nashville Electric Service.