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Topic started on 27-3-2008 @ 06:28 PM by traderonwallst

Gore's Message to Climate Change deniers


www.cbsnews.com
Self-avowed "P.R. agent for the planet" Al Gore says those who still doubt that global warming is caused by man - among them, Vice President Dick Cheney - are acting like the fringe groups who think the 1969 moon landing never really happened, or who once believed the world is flat.

The former vice president and former presidential candidate talks to 60 Minutes correspondent Lesley Stahl in an interview to be broadcast this Sunday, March 30, at 7 p.m. ET/PT.

Confronted by Stahl with the fact some prominent people, including the nation’s vice president, are not convinced that global warming is manmade, Gore responds: "You're talking about Dick Cheney. I think that those people are in such a tiny, tiny minority now with their point of view, they’re almost like the ones who still believe that the moon landing was staged in a movie lot in Arizona and those who believe the world is flat,” says Gore. "That demeans them a little bit, but it's not that far off," he tells Stahl.
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reply posted on 27-3-2008 @ 09:42 PM by Kinesis
reply to post by Maxmars


I'll offer you the courtesy, and politely tell you that there is a problem with the warming climate, and the excessive pollution which threatens the ecosystem. The moderators get upset with an abusive tone of language, so I won't disgress from the issue with bitter insults.

It's easy to ignore that the planet will be in peril by the end of the next decade. Perhaps denouncing Al Gore gives you a sense of importance, and your friends spur you on, making you feel like you belong to a superior group of people who are immune to what will soon happen.


reply posted on 27-3-2008 @ 10:10 PM by jasonjnelson
reply to post by Kinesis


I would love to point out, all day, how wrong you are, but I will only take about 2 minutes.
Hmmmm,
Ice is now at its highest levels in most places, feeding in one end, falling off the other.
There is pollution caused by man, but not the same results he claims. Do a google search on those that argue with him. There are a hell of a lot more scientists than you and I have in our pockets who all repudiate what this man spews.
STOP TAKING PICTURES OF MY FULL TRASH CAN AND THEN CLAIMING THAT IT'S ALL OVER MY YARD.
We all know how these films are edited, by people who have the same agenda as Al Gore.
To stay employed.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

[edit on 27-3-2008 by jasonjnelson]


reply posted on 27-3-2008 @ 10:23 PM by Sublime620
reply to post by traderonwallst


... you've seen no evidence that global warming exists?

Ice caps check anyone?

What world do you live in? Now man-made or not... that's debatable. Either way, it's gonna hurt if we don't fit it.


reply posted on 27-3-2008 @ 10:40 PM by daddyroo45
reply to post by Kinesis


Would you prefer to go back to 12,000 b.c. where the snow caps were pristine?
The vast majority of the land masse on this planet were at some point at the bottom of the sea.Did our carbon foot print cause that round of "global warming"? Or do you think that maybe just maybe this little old planet goes through cycles of warming and cooling? The sun has max and min. activity,that have a definite cycle.
The volcano Krakatoa spewed more carbon into our atmosphere in one day than mans emission over several decades.
We have an affect on the climate...thats a given.However most scientific evidence shows our effect is a minimum.


reply posted on 27-3-2008 @ 10:45 PM by eaglewingz
Originally posted by Kinesis
When are all the polar icecaps and mountain peeks supposed to be restored to levels previous to the 1950's?


Actually, if all of the ice disappears, the Earth will be as it was for the vast majority of its history.

(emphasis added)
...and we have ice caps at both poles - a situation that may be unique in Earth's history. That there are snowy winters through much of the world and permanent glaciers even in temperate places such as New Zealand may seem quite natural, but in fact it is a most unusual situation for the planet.

For most of its history until fairly recent times, the general pattern was for earth to be hot with no permanent ice anywhere.

Bill Bryson, A Short History of Nearly Everything (New York, Broadway Books, 2003) p.427


And if pollution in the form of greenhouse gases warms the atmosphere, how do you explain the following?

Discover Magazine

During the Ordovician Period, 440 million years ago, there seems to have been 16 times as much carbon dioxide in the atmosphere as there is today--and yet, judging from the gravelly deposits it left behind, there was also an ice sheet near the South Pole that was four-fifths the size of present-day Antarctica. The second exception is even more troubling. The Cretaceous Period, when dinosaurs ruled the Earth and CO2 levels were about eight times what they are today, has been one of the most popular case studies for global warming forecasters. And everyone knows what the climate was like during the dinosaurs’ heyday: steamy. Or was it? The latest evidence, reported just this past summer by British researchers, suggests that temperatures in the tropics 95 million years ago were no higher than they are now; and while it was a lot warmer at the poles than it is today, it was still freezing cold.



reply posted on 27-3-2008 @ 10:48 PM by Kinesis
Originally posted by jasonjnelson
reply to post by Kinesis


I would love to point out, all day, how wrong you are, but I will only take about 2 minutes.
Hmmmm,
Ice is now at its highest levels in most places, feeding in one end, falling off the other.
There is pollution caused by man, but not the same results he claims. Do a google search on those that argue with him. There are a hell of a lot more scientists than you and I have in our pockets who all repudiate what this man spews.


Are you serious? Ice feeding one end and falling off the other? Pollution not the same results he claims? Is the United States the only country in the world? China, Canada, and Mexico don't exist?

Let's see, Exxon is supposed to be an environmentally conscious corporation, cleaning up every drop of oil that ever leaked from an oil tanker. The smoke and fumes from burning oil wells in the middle east is comparable to a small community of wood stoves? It's just biodegradable carbon dioxide that will be absorbed by the environment? How about we just wait around for this cycle to hit rock bottom, then maybe things will turn around. How about you define for us when the turning point of this cycle should happen.

I'll just say to the moderators, courtesy shouldn't be offered to people like this who are just out to discredit the growing evidence, rather than building awareness to what's happening.


reply posted on 27-3-2008 @ 11:32 PM by traderonwallst
Originally posted by Sublime620
reply to post by traderonwallst


... you've seen no evidence that global warming exists?

Ice caps check anyone?

What world do you live in? Now man-made or not... that's debatable. Either way, it's gonna hurt if we don't fit it.


One melts, one grows.

Do we really lose anything if the amount of ice stays the same????
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