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posted on May, 15 2008 @ 08:45 PM
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Hmm...can we consider the "no planer" theory? Watching videos over and over may be brainwashing, but I think the no plane thing is a pretty good explination. Yes, yes thousands died but the evidence of the attacks are in such low quality, theres glitches everey where! It jsut raises my thoughts of if it was a whole media set up.




posted on May, 16 2008 @ 01:43 AM
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Originally posted by ThroatYogurt
NOTHING you have posted provides ANY evidence to your OP.


You mean just like the beleivers have not posted ANY evindece to deabte my source or to show the hijacker are all dead.

I have posted sources, why can't the believers post sources?

[edit on 16-5-2008 by ULTIMA1]



posted on May, 16 2008 @ 01:46 AM
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Originally posted by Disclosed
Information on passports....wow. Oooh..fake ones too. wow.


But at least i can post information, which is more then i can say for you and the other believers.

The faked passports show that the FBIs origiginal list of hijackers might not be correct.

Still wating for evidence to deabte what i have psoted or to prove the hijakers are all dead.



posted on May, 16 2008 @ 10:54 AM
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Originally posted by ULTIMA1

Still wating for evidence to deabte what i have psoted or to prove the hijakers are all dead.


Still waiting for evidence that even ONE hijacker is alive. Something you said you would gladly post, but have yet to do. I'm sure it is because there isnt any proof that even a single hijacker is still alive...but you are too stubborn to admit it.

Do you have the evidence to support the trackingthethreat site? (They say their information may be unreliable, and should be confirmed).

...or is it just your opinion that they are alive?

[edit on 16-5-2008 by Disclosed]



posted on May, 16 2008 @ 02:20 PM
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Originally posted by Disclosed
Still waiting for evidence that even ONE hijacker is alive.


I have posted evidence that 2 hijackers are alive.

You know the source that have failed to show any evidence to deabte.



posted on May, 16 2008 @ 03:32 PM
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Originally posted by ULTIMA1
I have posted evidence that 2 hijackers are alive.



what?

The 2 fake passports found at the WTC locations are evidence they are alive? Does that mean personal effects found for other passengers mean they are alive too?

I'm sure their families will be releived to hear that. Maybe you can give them contact information....so their spouses and children can contact them again.



posted on May, 16 2008 @ 05:38 PM
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Originally posted by Disclosed
The 2 fake passports found at the WTC locations are evidence they are alive?


Gee you really will say anything to keep from talking about the source i have that 2 hijackers are alive and you cannot porve it wrong.

Why are you so afraid that some of the hijackers might be alive, is it because it does not go along with what you think happened?



[edit on 16-5-2008 by ULTIMA1]



posted on May, 16 2008 @ 05:56 PM
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Originally posted by ULTIMA1
Gee you really will say anything to keep from talking about the source i have that 2 hijackers are alive and you cannot porve it wrong.


Gee, you will say anything to keep from posting what you promised. You said you would gladly post evidence that the hijackers are alive.
Instead, you post a site that says its data may be unreliable....and should be verified. Then you post a report about 2 passports being found at the WTC location.

So, by your standards, evidence that was found that belonged to any of the passengers on the planes that hit the WTC towers, or victims inside....means they are still alive?

Do you have photos of any of the hijackers taken after 9/11? videos? recordings? Any evidence whatsoever?

See...that would be evidence. You only have claims....what you "think" is not evidence.

So...where is your evidence you will gladly post, ULTIMA1? Where is your "truth"?



posted on May, 16 2008 @ 06:00 PM
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Originally posted by Disclosed
Gee, you will say anything to keep from posting what you promised. You said you would gladly post evidence that the hijackers are alive.


I will post more evidence if you can post any evidence to debate what i posted so far, otherwise thier is no reason for me to post anymore evidence.

Please stay on topic. If you want to talk about passengers being alive start another thread.

[edit on 16-5-2008 by ULTIMA1]



posted on May, 16 2008 @ 06:02 PM
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Originally posted by ULTIMA1
I will post more evidence if you can post any evidence to debate what i posted so far, otherwise thier is no reason for me to post anymore evidence.


Spoken like a true dis-information specialist


You start a thread, with bad data to back it up...then need everyone else to do your dirtty work and find information.

I'll wait for the book to come out



posted on May, 16 2008 @ 06:07 PM
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Originally posted by Disclosed
You start a thread, with bad data to back it up...then need everyone else to do your dirtty work and find information.


But i have posted data to back it up.

Its you that cannot post anything to deabte the data or support the official story.



posted on May, 16 2008 @ 06:08 PM
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I'm sure he has used his top secret resources at the NSA to confirm every detail of his plan. Only his concern for operational security prevents him from showing all the proof to you. If he shows you, the terrorists win...



posted on May, 16 2008 @ 06:10 PM
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I think you're right, _Del_.

Lets just wait for his book to be finished, so we can see the evidence in there.


I'm outta this thread.

Peace!



posted on May, 16 2008 @ 06:20 PM
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Originally posted by Disclosed
Lets just wait for his book to be finished, so we can see the evidence in there.


Thanks for showing how immature a believer is to talk about something that has already been proven to be a lie and will warn the mods about the insults that the beleivers have to use because they know they cannot psot evidence.

Still waiting,
But i have posted data to back it up.

Its you that cannot post anything to deabte the data or support the official story.



posted on May, 17 2008 @ 02:55 PM
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Sir Ultima,

What data have you shown to back up your claim? you show a web site that states: Status: Alive

So?

Where is the evidence that shows that they are alive. This thread is going on and on and all you have done is perseverated the same thing.

Admit, that you have ZERO evidence to back up your claim.

either that or put up some proof.



posted on May, 17 2008 @ 02:56 PM
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DBL POST... sorry



[edit on 17-5-2008 by ThroatYogurt]



posted on May, 17 2008 @ 05:28 PM
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it seams to me rather than look for evidence that the hijackers are dead , some people have become mouth pieces for the fbi and think that the fbi wont lie or fake evidence.... since when did the fbi become whiter than white telling us only the truth ?....



posted on May, 17 2008 @ 05:38 PM
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Were those hijackers really Arabs? Would Israeli agents carry out a suicide mission that could cost American Jewish lives?

Consider these little-known facts . . .

In 1986, the New York-based leader of the terrorist Jewish Defense League, Victor Vancier, gave a prophetic hint of what may have been finally played out on Sept. 11, 2001:

"If you think the Shias in Lebanon are capable of fantastic acts of suicidal terrorism, the Jewish underground will strike targets that will make Americans gasp: 'How could Jews do such things?'"

According to Vancier, quoted by Robert I. Friedman in The Village Voice on May 6, 1986, his allies were "desperate people" who "don't care if they live or die."

Considering this warning it is entirely conceivable the "Middle Eastern" men described by passengers on the airliners were not Arabs at all.

Evidence to be explored suggests that instead, these hijackers could well have been Israeli-sponsored fundamentalist Jewish fanatics (posing as "bin Laden Arabs") hoping to instigate an all-out U.S. war against the Arab world.

"Jewish suicide bombers? Impossible!" cry critics. However, the fact is that there is a "suicide tradition" that is a much-revered part of Jewish history--going back to the famous mass suicide at Masada by Jewish zealots.

But in modern times, Israeli suicide missions have been undertaken. In The Other Side of Deception, former [Israeli] Mossad officer Victor Ostrovsky described one 1989 venture: the participants were "all volunteers" advised that there was effectively "no possibility of rescue should they be caught."

And what about the Arabic language heard on one airplane's black box?

Consider a formerly secret CIA assessment, Israel: Foreign Intelligence and Security Services, dated March 1979, which reported that it is a long-standing policy for Israeli intelligence to disguise Jews as Arabs:

One of the established goals of the intelligence and security services is that each officer be fluent in Arabic. A nine-month, intensive Arabic-language course is given annually ... to students ...

As further training, these Mossad officers work in the [Israeli-controlled Arab lands] for two years to sharpen their language skills....

Many Israelis have come from Arab countries where they were born and educated and appear more Arab than Israeli ...

By forging passports and identity documents of Arab and Western countries and providing sound background legends and cover, Mossad has successfully sent into Egypt and other Arab countries Israelis disguised and documented as Arabs or citizens of European countries.... These persons are also useful for their ability to pass completely for a citizen of the nation in question. The Israeli talent for counterfeiting or forging foreign passports and documents ably supports the agent's authenticity.

Pulitzer Prize-winner Jack Anderson, a supporter of Israel, wrote on Sept. 17, 1972 that:

"Israeli agents--immigrants whose families had lived in Arab lands for generations--have a perfect knowledge of Arab dialects and customs. They have been able to infiltrate Arab governments with ease."

On Sept. 29, 1998, Yossi Melman, writing in Israel's Ha'aretz, revealed that:

"Shin Bet agents, who worked undercover in the Israeli-Arab sector in the 1950s, went as far as to marry Muslim women and have children with them, in an attempt to continue their mission without raising suspicion."

In fact, serious questions have been raised about the identities of the Sept. 11 "Arab hijackers."

While the [pro-Israel] media reported the ringleader's passport conveniently landed atop rubble eight blocks from "Ground Zero," The Orlando Sentinel also reported that at least four men identified as hijackers are not dead and had nothing to do with the attacks.

In The New Yorker on Oct. 8, Pulitzer Prize winner Seymour Hersh pointed out:

"Many of the investigators believe that some of the initial clues about the terroristsí identities and preparations, such as flight manuals, were meant to be found. A former high-level intelligence official told me, 'Whatever trail was left was left deliberately--for the FBI to chase.'"

Why Arabs would plant evidence implicating their own is a point mainstream [pro-Israel] media chooses not to address.

Nor has the [pro-Israel] media ever ballyhooed the "hero" who tipped off the FBI where the hijackers' car (conveniently filled with "evidence") was parked.

And for those who would doubt that Israel would endanger American-Jews via terrorism, consider this: hard-line Israelis are willing to kill Jews if it means assuring Israel's survival.

The late Rabbi Meir Kahane--founder of the Jewish Defense League and one spiritual mentor of fundamentalists who support Ariel Sharon--exemplifies those willing to sacrifice other Jews to guarantee Israel's future.

Kahane called for killing "Hellenist [i.e. Western-oriented] spiritually sick [Jews] who threaten the existence of Judaism." That would include those working in slick offices in the World Trade Center, living on Long Island, rather than kibbutzing in Israel.

Israeli journalist Yair Kotler reports in Heil Kahane that Kahane wrote: "the adoption of foreign, gentilized [i.e. non-Jewish] concepts by a Jewish state ... opens the door to a national tragedy."

In his book, Time to Go Home, Kahane called for all Jews to "go home" to Israel--the only safe place for Jews. Those who refused to "go home" were expendable. The CIA's 1979 report on Israeli intelligence says this widely-held view mirrors "the aggressively ideological nature of Zionism."

In fact, this Jewish attitude toward the West (exactly what the media says is the Islamic attitude) has support at the Mossad's top levels.

Robert Friedman revealed that "high-ranking members of Mossad" were directing Kahane and that the "central player" was former Mossad operations chief (and later Prime Minister) Yitzhak Shamir, an outspoken critic of America.

When Kahane said America would become "the major enemy of Israel," due to "economic disintegration, which no administration can stem," he enunciated a popular Israeli view.

In his Kahane biography, The False Prophet, Robert I. Friedman noted that Kahane's beliefs "have taken root and have become 'respectable'" and that Ariel Sharon is one of the "most potent supporters" of such extremism.

In the Oct. 15 issue of The New Republic, Israeli writer Yossi Klein Halevi echoed this view:

"The destruction of the World Trade Center has partially rehabilitated, if only by default, the Zionist promise of safe refuge for the Jewish people.

"In the last year, it had become a much-noted irony that Israel was the country where a Jew was most likely to be killed for being a Jew. For many, the United States had beckoned as the real Jewish refuge; in a poll taken just before the bin Laden attacks, 37 percent of Israelis said their friends or relatives were discussing emigration. That probably changed on Sept. 11.

"I was among the thousands of Israelis who crowded Kennedy Airport on the weekend after the attack, desperate to find a flight to Tel Aviv. 'At least weíre going back where it's safe,' people joked.

"Everyone seemed to have a story about an Israeli living in New York who just barely escaped the devastation. If this could happen in Manhattan, the reasoning went, you might as well take your chances at home."

What Halevi describes reflects the widespread ideology known as "catastrophic Zionism" which rejects America, saying Israel is the only safe Jewish refuge.

In The Ascendance of Israel's Radical Right, Israeli scholar Ehud Sprinzak found that these views are "a major school" of modern Israeli thought.

Sprinzak described the Israeli movement, Sikarikin, which honors ancient Jews who "conducted a systematic terror campaign against Jewish moderates who were ready to come to terms with the Romans on questions of religious purity." Israelis consider these terrorists "the symbolic defenders of religious and nationalist purity."

Another popular rabbi, Israel Ariel, will risk massive loss of Jewish lives to achieve the "elimination" of the Arab countries to guarantee Israel's survival. The hawkish rabbi proclaims:

"There is a ruling that a war is permitted as long as no more than one-sixth of the nation be killed. And this was stated in relation to an ordinary war, a fight between neighbors.

"A war for Eretz Israel does not depend on the number of casualties. The command is 'Ase!' ('Do it!'), and you may be sure that the number of casualties will thus be minimal."

As far as non-Jews, Sprinzak cites Rabbi David Bar-Haim who declares the concept Jews and non-Jews are equals "stands in total contrast to the Torah of Moses, and is derived from a total ignorance and an assimilation of alien Western values."

Ben-Haim cites 10 religious authorities who "repeatedly proposed that Gentiles are more beast than human," whereas, "only two authorities recognize non-Jews as full human beings created in the image of God."

Bear in mind: these comments from supposed "allies" represent widespread opinion in Israel's military and intelligence services.

Did Ariel Sharon help orchestrate the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks to instigate all-out U.S. war against Israel's enemies? Don't discount it.

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posted on May, 17 2008 @ 05:49 PM
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Washington Post - 9/16/01 - 2nd Witness Arrested; 25 Held for Questioning
Two of 19 suspects named by the FBI, Saeed Alghamdi and Ahmed Alghamdi, have the same names as men listed at a housing facility for foreign military trainees at Pensacola. Two others, Hamza Alghamdi and Ahmed Alnami, have names similar to individuals listed in public records as using the same address inside the base. In addition, a man named Saeed Alghamdi graduated from the Defense Language Institute at Lackland Air Force Base in San Antonio, while men with the same names as two other hijackers, Mohamed Atta and Abdulaziz Alomari, appear as graduates of the U.S. International Officers School at Maxwell Air Force Base, Ala., and the Aerospace Medical School at Brooks Air Force Base in San Antonio, respectively.

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BBC - 9/23/01 - Hijack 'suspects' alive and well
And there are suggestions that another suspect, Khalid Al Midhar, may also be alive.

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Online Service of the Arizona Daily Star - 9/28/01 - Hijack suspect profiles
"An FBI notice to banks on Sept. 19 raised the possibility that Almihdhar might still be alive without speculating or explaining how that could be possible. "

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Khalid Almihdhar: there are reports he is still alive
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BBC - 9/23/01 - Hijack 'suspects' alive and well
Another of the men named by the FBI as a hijacker in the suicide attacks on Washington and New York has turned up alive and well. Saudi Arabian pilot Waleed Al Shehri was one of five men that the FBI said had deliberately crashed American Airlines flight 11 into the World Trade Centre on 11 September. Now he is protesting his innocence from Casablanca, Morocco.
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'Suicide hijacker' is an airline pilot alive and well in Jeddah - 9/17/01
A man named by the US Department of Justice as a suicide hijacker of American Airlines flight 11 ­ the first airliner to smash into the World Trade Centre ­ is very much alive and living in Jeddah. Abdulrahman al-Omari, a pilot with Saudi Airlines, was astonished to find himself accused of hijacking ­ as well as being dead ­ and has visited the US consulate in Jeddah to demand an explanation.

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"The name [listed by the FBI] is my name and the birth date is the same as mine, but I am not the one who bombed the World Trade Center in New York," Abdulaziz Alomari told the London-based Asharq Al-Awsat newspaper.

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Revealed: the men with stolen identities - 9/23/01
Mr Al-Omari, who was accused of hijacking the American Airlines plane that smashed into the the World Trade Centre's north tower, said that he was at his desk at the Saudi telecommunications authority in Riyadh when the attacks took place.

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BBC - 9/23/01 - Hijack 'suspects' alive and well
Abdulaziz Al Omari, another of the Flight 11 hijack suspects, has also been quoted in Arab news reports. He says he is an engineer with Saudi Telecoms, and that he lost his passport while studying in Denver.
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www.portal.telegraph.co.uk.../news/2001/09/23/widen23.xml
Revealed: the men with stolen identities - 9/23/01
The Saudi Airlines pilot, Saeed Al-Ghamdi, 25, and Abdulaziz Al-Omari, an engineer from Riyadh, are furious that the hijackers' "personal details" - including name, place, date of birth and occupation - matched their own.

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BBC - 9/23/01 - Hijack 'suspects' alive and well
Meanwhile, Asharq Al Awsat newspaper, a London-based Arabic daily, says it has interviewed Saeed Alghamdi. He was listed by the FBI as a hijacker in the United flight that crashed in Pennsylvania.
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www.portal.telegraph.co.uk.../news/2001/09/23/widen23.xml
Revealed: the men with stolen identities - 9/23/01
Mr Al-Hamzi is 26 and had just returned to work at a petrochemical complex in the industrial eastern city of Yanbou after a holiday in Saudi Arabia when the hijackers struck. He was accused of hijacking the American Airlines Flight 77 that hit the Pentagon. He said: "I have never been to the United States and have not been out of Saudi Arabia in the past two years." The FBI described him as 21 and said that his possible residences were Fort Lee or Wayne, both in New Jersey.
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www.portal.telegraph.co.uk.../news/2001/09/23/widen23.xml
Revealed: the men with stolen identities - 9/23/01
Mr Al-Nami, 33, from Riyadh, an administrative supervisor with Saudi Arabian Airlines, said that he was in Riyadh when the terrorists struck. He said: "I'm still alive, as you can see. I was shocked to see my name mentioned by the American Justice Department. I had never even heard of Pennsylvania where the plane I was supposed to have hijacked."
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www.cnn.com...
CNN - FBI: Early probe results show 18 hijackers took part 9/13/01
Based on information from multiple law enforcement sources, CNN reported that Adnan Bukhari and Ameer Bukhari of Vero Beach Florida, were suspected to be two of the pilots who crashed planes into the World Trade Center. CNN later learned that Adnan Bukhari is still in Florida, where he was questioned by the FBI. We are sorry for the misinformation. A federal law enforcement source now tells CNN that Bukhari passed an FBI polygraph and is not considered a suspect. Through his attorney, Bukhari says that he is helping authorities. Ameer Bukhari died in a small plane crash last year.

Some of those involved in the plot left suicide notes, but they are not believed to have been the hijackers, a government source told The Associated Press. It was unclear whether those who left the notes actually killed themselves.
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Cairo Times - 9/27/01
He also claimed that his son had called him two days after the attack, and described it as "a normal conversation." But he snarled when asked to give further details. Asked what country Muhammad had called from, he said, "The name of the country isn't written on the phone." Asked where Muhammad was now, he said, "Ask Mossad."

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Video shows Atta was not suicidal, as he pays bills and returns rentals.
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www.latimes.com...
Los Angeles Times - 9/21/01
A man by the same name is a pilot, whose father is a Saudi diplomat in Bombay. "I personally talked to both father and son today," said Gaafar Allagany, head of the Saudi Embassy's information center.
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Saudi Gazette 9/18/01 and The Khaleej Times 9/20/01
Marwan al-Shehhi is still alive in Morocco
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www.cbsnews.com...
CBS - Bin Laden Names Hijackers On Tape Dec. 20, 2001
He would identify only three: Nawaq Alhamzi, Salem Alhamzi and Wail Alshehri. Alshehri was on American Airlines flight 11, one of the planes that hit the Twin Towers at the World Trade Center in New York; Alhamzi and Alhamzi were on American Airlines flight 77, which hit the Pentagon.

Bin Laden's "smoking gun" video names living, uninvolved people? This makes no sense!
This is just the beginning, this "confession" video is full of abnormalities.
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news.bbc.co.uk...
BBC- The last moments of Flight 11
The FBI has named five hijackers on board Flight 11, whereas Ms Sweeney spotted only four. Also, the seat numbers she gave were different from those registered in the hijackers' names.
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www.fbi.gov...
U.S. Department of Justice
Federal Bueau of Investigation - Hijackers
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news.bbc.co.uk...
BBC - FBI probes hijackers' identities 9/21/01
It believes that some of the hijackers used false identities, possibly even names of people who are still alive, which could significantly complicate the manhunt.
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www.sun-sentinel.com...
Los Angeles Times - 10/23/01 - Friends of terror suspect say allegations make no sense
By Carol J. Williams Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
...Ziad and Salim ... left Lebanon together April 4, 1996, at the age of 20, heading to the eastern German town of Greifswald in pursuit of both an education and a good time.

Jarrah and the other three men named by the FBI as hijackers...initially came to be on the list of 19 because they "have been identified as having 'Arabic' names

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Boston Globe - Hijack suspect lived a life, or a lie - 9/25/01
Although a Brooklyn apartment lease from 1995-1996 bears Ziad Jarrah's name - and landlords there have identified his photograph - his family insists he was in Beirut at the time.

How was he in Brooklyn and Lebanon at the same time?

..two days before the hijacking, his nephew called and told the family he'd be coming home for a cousin's wedding in mid-September. "He said he had even bought a new suit for the occasion."

www.cnn.com...
CNN 8/1/02 - September 11 hijacker questioned in January 2001
The CIA suspected Ziad Jarrah had been in Afghanistan and wanted him questioned because of "his suspected involvement in terrorist activities," UAE sources said.

A CIA spokesman vigorously denied that the CIA knew anything about Jarrah before September 11 or had anything do with his questioning in Dubai.
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The New Yorker - What Went Wrong
by Seymour Hersh - 10/1/01
Many of the investigators believe that some of the initial clues that were uncovered about the terrorists' identities and preparations, such as flight manuals, were meant to be found. A former high-level intelligence official told me, "Whatever trail was left was left deliberately--for the F.B.I. to chase."

In interviews over the past two weeks, a number of intelligence officials have raised questions about Osama bin Laden's capabilities. "This guy sits in a cave in Afghanistan and he's running this operation?" one C.I.A. official asked. "It's so huge. He couldn't have done it alone." A senior military officer told me that because of the visas and other documentation needed to infiltrate team members into the United States, a major foreign intelligence service might also have been involved.
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Washington Post - 9/25/01 - Some Light Shed On Saudi Suspects - A12
Still, the father of Alghamdi told Al Watan that the picture provided by the FBI was not that of his son. "It has no resemblance to him at all," he said.
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www.newsday.com...
Tracing Trail Of Hijackers - By Thomas Frank - 9/23/01
At Freeway Airport in Bowie, Md., 20 miles west of Washington, flight instructor Sheri Baxter instantly recognized the name of alleged hijacker Hani Hanjour when the FBI released a list of 19 suspects in the four hijackings. Hanjour, the only suspect on Flight 77 the FBI listed as a pilot, had come to the airport one month earlier seeking to rent a small plane.... However, when Baxter and fellow instructor Ben Conner took....Hanjour on three test runs during the second week of August, they found he had trouble controlling and landing the single-engine Cessna 172. .....chief flight instructor Marcel Bernard declined to rent him a plane without more lessons.

www.washingtonpost.com...
Washington Post - On Flight 77: 'Our Plane Is Being Hijacked' - 9/12/01 - Page A01
...the unidentified pilot executed a pivot so tight that it reminded observers of a fighter jet maneuver. The plane circled 270 degrees to the right to approach the Pentagon from the west, whereupon Flight 77 fell below radar level, vanishing from controllers' screens, the sources said.... Aviation sources said the plane was flown with extraordinary skill, making it highly likely that a trained pilot was at the helm... Someone even knew how to turn off the transponder, a move that is considerably less than obvious.
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CBS - Hijackers Lived With FBI Informant - Sept. 9, 2002
Two of the Sept. 11 hijackers who lived in San Diego in 2000 rented a room from a man who reportedly worked as an undercover FBI informant....the FBI informant prayed with them and even helped one open a bank account.



posted on May, 17 2008 @ 06:08 PM
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Originally posted by ThroatYogurt
Where is the evidence that shows that they are alive. This thread is going on and on and all you have done is perseverated the same thing.


I have posted a source that states a couple of the hijackers are alive. No one has shown any evidence to debate this information.

I have posted a quote from the FBI that questions if the official list if hijackers was correct.

I have posted a source that states passports found were doctored.

All of this information together questions the offficial story. Still waiting for someone to post any information to deabte anythign i have posted or to prove all the hijackers are dead.

[edit on 17-5-2008 by ULTIMA1]



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